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Keep the mindless hate from this thread. A well argued post is fine, frothing-at-the-mouth hate is not.
EnOmy
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia183 Posts
July 09 2011 15:52 GMT
#201
I just want to see this tournament reach its fullest potential. I'm so glad they're already confirmed for a second and third season. I can not wait for them to get to the point where they can look back at this season and finals series and go "Wow, look how far we've come."
GG WP //// 24yo.M
Phyxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark681 Posts
July 09 2011 16:16 GMT
#202
A few things came to mind after watching the 1st day of the NASL finals:

- The audio problems are simply inexcusable. It took 7 hours to fix it (not counting the 2 hours delay).

- The delay between matches could easily be reduced. Invest in two extra booths and you could have the players set up in advance before they have play (GSL style), or introduces the players before you play your intro videos. That way you could have double the games in half the time. If you still want a long three day event this is the perfect opportunity to change the format of the tournament. Either BO5 or double elimination would be much better imo.

- The map choices were really weird. What is wrong with giving the players a chance to down vote a map they don't want to play on, and just select the rest randomly? And think about your audience please, I kinda had enough of Xel'Naga Caverns and Crossfire when we reached the final series.

- I don't get why you would "reward" the number 1 seeded player with a match up with the open tournament winner. Sure it could work if you somehow managed to invite the 50 best players in the world, but you really didn't, and how could you invite the 50 players that would be considered the best a season in advance. So assuming the open tournament winner would be the easiest player in the finals is just plain stupid imo.

- What is wrong with announcing why the event is delayed, what you are doing to fix it, and when you expect to be able to start? Instead of having the 50000 people sitting without no clue about what was going on for two hours?

I am haven't brought your product, but I am a long time customer of GOMTV. I really pity the people you have "tricked" into buying a season ticket, because you are not delivering a good product atm. Do yourself a favour and consider MLG's approach (Free HD stream for the rest of the event, and a free season 2 ticket for the people who brought the season 1 ticket). I get that this is all new to you, but that is not a valid excuse when you charge people for it.
veechee
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States15 Posts
July 09 2011 16:21 GMT
#203
Sen was so nice, and he played sick!
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
July 09 2011 16:43 GMT
#204
So according to Xeris, they did test out everything beforehand. In this case, you can't really fault them. Everyone makes mistakes, but I hope they don't do it twice....
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 17:16:26
July 09 2011 16:56 GMT
#205
edit :wrong thread ><
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
July 09 2011 17:00 GMT
#206
On July 10 2011 01:43 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
So according to Xeris, they did test out everything beforehand. In this case, you can't really fault them. Everyone makes mistakes, but I hope they don't do it twice....


Of course you can still fault them. It's just a matter of getting it right now. Luckily the tournament is spread over 3 days, and they have an excellent chance to make up for day 1 with day2/3.
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
MCMXVI
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1193 Posts
July 09 2011 17:06 GMT
#207
On July 09 2011 07:33 Dustus wrote:... maybe people should lower expectaions and just enjoy it for what it is, and the season 2 finals will hopefull be better, much like collumbus was better then dallas.
-

People are fast to try and crap all over something. If you don't like it don't watch it, or maybe you enjoy it now and watch as it improves. Rome wasn't built in a day.

Lower their expectations? With a tournament that sports a $100 000 prize pool? Are you serious?

I paid for the HD-pass. I paid to watch a tournament that was set to start at 8pm CEST, and have the last, and most worth while match to watch, start at 4am CEST. Now, tell me, please, why on earth I should be satisfied with this when they manage to pull the last match through 4 hours after it was originally set to start?
In capitalist America, bank robs YOU!
Jepsyn
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada364 Posts
July 09 2011 17:14 GMT
#208
Just do not understand the mindless hate thrown at NASL for a few MINOR production glitches..
"Wonder what this game would be like if protoss units cost money" - IdrA
Barolt
Profile Joined February 2011
98 Posts
July 09 2011 17:17 GMT
#209
On July 10 2011 02:14 Jepsyn wrote:
Just do not understand the mindless hate thrown at NASL for a few MINOR production glitches..


You mean the reasonable criticism from paying customers being given to NASL which could've been prevented by having someone actually doing PR?
Hammurabio
Profile Joined August 2010
152 Posts
July 09 2011 17:18 GMT
#210
On July 09 2011 22:41 ElJefe wrote:
So what time does it start today (Saturday)? The website doesn't have any schedules posted.


It's right there on the website. Go to NASL.tv and click on "schedule".
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MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 17:21:56
July 09 2011 17:20 GMT
#211
On July 10 2011 02:14 Jepsyn wrote:
Just do not understand the mindless hate thrown at NASL for a few MINOR production glitches..

You really will not be able to understand it either. Some people just have that Hate gene somewhere inside of them, and feel it is their duty to freak out and start yelling obscenities at NASL for every mistake they make
Others see the mistakes, and are upset by it, still cry a little about it, but move on with the game, and try to enjoy the matches. The difference between these two people is basically CAPS LOCK for their entire post.

NASL did not have a perfect stream at all yesterday, and I understand why some people will be upset about it, but some posters did act as if there life would soon end due to the sound quality, or the delays during some games.
EDIT:

On July 10 2011 02:17 Barolt wrote:
You mean the reasonable criticism from paying customers being given to NASL which could've been prevented by having someone actually doing PR?

No, this is not what he was talking about. He asked about the mindless hate, not the reasonable criticism. There was a lot of both in the LR from yesterday. One of them helps NASL improve, the other one makes people sound like ungrateful douche bags. There is a big difference.
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
Jepsyn
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada364 Posts
July 09 2011 17:20 GMT
#212
No not reasonable at all Barolt 500 losers do not have the right to yell SOUND and do that stupid table flipping emote.... that is trolling. Im not after anyone that has a legitimate argument . Im gonna eat trolls
"Wonder what this game would be like if protoss units cost money" - IdrA
War Horse
Profile Joined January 2011
United States247 Posts
July 09 2011 17:20 GMT
#213
Why are you people complaining about single elimination? There was a 9 round round robin group stage over the past 3 months. It's like complaining that you only get 1 game in the NFL playoffs.
Why appeal to God when you can appeal to Apaches?
KangaRuthless
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States304 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 17:24:31
July 09 2011 17:23 GMT
#214
On July 10 2011 02:14 Jepsyn wrote:
Just do not understand the mindless hate thrown at NASL for a few MINOR production glitches..


People are so used to the GSL and Dreamhack that they expect the exact same production values. NASL fixed their glitches faster than MLG Dallas. At any rate, I think NASL does have a future and I'm really enjoying these games, especially Zenio v Sen!

Also, I like the fact that they've started addressing their streaming problems. I used to get stutters in video a lot more often.
www.youtube.com/KangaRuthless
Barolt
Profile Joined February 2011
98 Posts
July 09 2011 17:24 GMT
#215
Right, Jepsyn, and we can all agree that's senseless. However, at the same time, there was no PR whatsoever from NASL yesterday, and I think a lot of the frustration and even the trolling came from the 2 hours before the first match with little to no communication, and no indication when the matches would start. This resulted in a lot of bored people who really just wanted to watch starcraft and support the NASL.

However, boredom plus the anonymity of the internet never ends well. I can come up with tons of solutions myself for how they could've filled the time, however. Put on an impromptu incontrol vs gretorp showmatch, or plott vs. plott. Any of these things would've entertained the audience, and kept down the anger and annoyance. Or even just a rescheduling of events indicating a start time, so people could move on to other things.
wtfstarcraf
Profile Joined April 2011
United States6 Posts
July 09 2011 17:26 GMT
#216
nice hope to see improvments next season
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
July 09 2011 17:33 GMT
#217
So did anyone here go to NASL? Trying to find first hand accounts of people who attended and what they thought of it. What did people do during all the downtimes? Was the event fun to attend?
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Barolt
Profile Joined February 2011
98 Posts
July 09 2011 17:36 GMT
#218
On July 10 2011 02:33 Canucklehead wrote:
So did anyone here go to NASL? Trying to find first hand accounts of people who attended and what they thought of it. What did people do during all the downtimes? Was the event fun to attend?


Had a friend who attended. He said it wasn't bad, was cool to see some of the people in person.

However, he went home to watch the last set of games on his computer, because he had nothing to do during the downtime at the venue. At home he could at least play games during downtime.
Cajun2k1
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands399 Posts
July 09 2011 17:38 GMT
#219
On July 10 2011 02:33 Canucklehead wrote:
So did anyone here go to NASL? Trying to find first hand accounts of people who attended and what they thought of it. What did people do during all the downtimes? Was the event fun to attend?


http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/ikre2/just_got_back_from_nasl/
How can you kill, that which has no life?
War Horse
Profile Joined January 2011
United States247 Posts
July 09 2011 17:47 GMT
#220
On July 10 2011 02:23 KangaRuthless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 02:14 Jepsyn wrote:
Just do not understand the mindless hate thrown at NASL for a few MINOR production glitches..


People are so used to the GSL and Dreamhack that they expect the exact same production values. NASL fixed their glitches faster than MLG Dallas. At any rate, I think NASL does have a future and I'm really enjoying these games, especially Zenio v Sen!

Also, I like the fact that they've started addressing their streaming problems. I used to get stutters in video a lot more often.

Before this started all they did was hype about how great the production values would be. They didn't deliver on that. They told us how great the live event would be and...

that fell through too, with tons of amateurish mistakes. Terrible way to spend $25
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