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Keep the mindless hate from this thread. A well argued post is fine, frothing-at-the-mouth hate is not.
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
July 09 2011 12:48 GMT
#181
On July 09 2011 05:29 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Oh man. If Season 2 isn't a hell of a lot better I don't think we'll see a season 3.

Worst case scenario though I'm sure it will get better


It will be. It isn't "bad" because of a lack of capability and funding, it is a result of a lack of experience.....which they now have.
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
July 09 2011 12:49 GMT
#182
On July 09 2011 21:48 Mr Showtime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 05:29 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Oh man. If Season 2 isn't a hell of a lot better I don't think we'll see a season 3.

Worst case scenario though I'm sure it will get better


It will be. It isn't "bad" because of a lack of capability and funding, it is a result of a lack of experience.....which they now have.


But if that's the case they should have either started smaller, or hired guys who were experienced.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 13:06:51
July 09 2011 12:58 GMT
#183
Edit: Nvm, wrong thread.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 13:11:29
July 09 2011 13:10 GMT
#184
I just went to the site to see what time the games are today, should be easy to find. Hm no.
Ok maybe yesterdays vods are up. Hm no.
Ok maybe theres some indication when they will be up. Hm no.
Ok lets check the brackets then I want to know who won, surely they are updated. Hm no.
Guess I'll do a search for finals then, there's probably lots of stuff about it. Hm no, last newsitem dated july 6
Hm there is a "get your hd pass" button. But I paid for this season? Still, that button is there, maybe I have to pay again for the finals? Maybe then I'll see the finals content?
Oh wait maybe not, there's a live match in progress, silly me! Lets click that. Or not... seems it's not really live atm, it's just a Nasl picture and they forgot to remove the live match in progress button.
Well lets check the schedule tab then. Oh empty.
Ok the video tab then. Oh cool streloks journey to the finals! err wait, he couldn't come. Why didn't they remove that.


Ok I give up
Well not really, I'll watch it anyway, but there is a LOT of improvement here. This is so confusing, especially for people who don't browse TL daily. It's just to hard to find any recent info about the finals on nasl's own site

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
zasghu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden35 Posts
July 09 2011 13:22 GMT
#185
The vods are up at, in multiple parts(check the right side):

http://www.justin.tv/naslseasonone/b/289760354


holyone
Profile Joined June 2009
Portugal43 Posts
July 09 2011 13:26 GMT
#186
On July 09 2011 22:22 zasghu wrote:
The vods are up at, in multiple parts(check the right side):

http://www.justin.tv/naslseasonone/b/289760354




But you need to pay to have access to those VOD...and speaking for myself, im not paying after yesterdays "bad" performance!
Marsupian
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands455 Posts
July 09 2011 13:27 GMT
#187
Ret facing the best opponent in the tournament first because he was top seed makes me sad . He deserved to at least get to the semi's imo.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 13:29:35
July 09 2011 13:27 GMT
#188
On July 09 2011 22:22 zasghu wrote:
The vods are up at, in multiple parts(check the right side):

http://www.justin.tv/naslseasonone/b/289760354


That was cruel. I clicked on it to watch the Darkforce games then realised I had to pay. After all that we still have to pay ;(. That's the big difference between MLG/HSC/GSL and what NASL are doing. When the others mess up they don't just ignore it and keep moving. They try make it up to the viewers. I think many people would be way less upset if say they did some of the offers MLG did when their stuff went horribly wrong. It's just a basic lack of regard for the viewers/customers that is the most annoying. The 2 hour delay with no word from an official NASL person is another example of this. I'm not sure if they just don't realise this concept or what.

People gave Sundance a lot of flank but at the same time there was respect for him since he was always actively communicating the issues and working out some compromise to help mend the wounds.
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 13:35:55
July 09 2011 13:35 GMT
#189
Is there a direct audio recoding of the casting to go with those vod's or are they literally just recordings of the (terrible) stream?

I probably would pay for decent quality vods.
octanE
Profile Joined May 2011
United States11 Posts
July 09 2011 13:38 GMT
#190
On July 09 2011 05:35 Carkis wrote:
This is a horrible finals. Im sure they're debugging a lot it just seems so unprofessional. I really hope gretorp and inc. arnt casting next season. Im not being rude but a big problem with SC is that every progamer thinks theyre also a pro caster/commentator. In pro sports most athletes arnt good commentators its a separate domain. but SC hasnt figured that out yet I dont think


mayne. we don't need that negativity. the best tennis commentators are also players, (john/pat macenroe, brad gilbert, martina navritilova.) and many american football commentators are also retired players. inc and gretorp were a little rusty at the beginning of the season, but i think theyve really stepped it up.

all in all, the nasl is doing a great thing. it's theyre first time and even veteran lan runners like mlg have screw ups too. for the first time, nasl is impressing, and with all of this hype and production value, i think more and more talented players will be interested.
the problem with religion is that they say "and these crackers are jesus' body" and you say "orly?" and they say "fuck you eat the crackers". science says "we evolved from monkeys" and you say "orly?" and then science can show you the path ofevidence-IdrA
Duis
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany16 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 13:47:49
July 09 2011 13:39 GMT
#191
I think it's not the problems they encountered that make people rage about this, but the way they handle them. Every single Problem NASL has encountered, which wasn't a direct result of the format (like the flow of the show) they eventually fixed in one way or the other (well except for the sound problem which has been a pain in the ass since the beginning).
But i think the main problem here is public relations. It's no wonder if nerds furiously rage at you if your stream lags horribly or the sound is horrid. That's perfectly normal. But for gods sake acknowledge the problems, don't just tell people "the lag is a problem on your end", "the soundboard says otherwise".
I've not seen a single News item on their site actually addressing the problems (well, aside from one in April which vaguely hinted at existing problems and mainly addressed the nerd rage).
I can absolutely "forgive" people who acknowledge mistakes being made but i get furious when advice is seemingly ignored or even ridiculed. Especially watching the responses from NASL in the chat or Incontrol's ridiculing another valid concern was heartbreaking for me (maybe it's just me but i hate his self-aggrandizing rants).
Overall the communication has been horrid for me. I wrote several emails (some infused with rage others polite) complaining about existing issues and never got anything back. It's understandable that i don't get a whole email explaining everything in detail, but come on, how hard is it to write back "We
re working on the issue", or "Yes, Incontrol's Blazers does not fit him at all".

This post here on TL is actually the first time i see them explaining a problem. And instantly my German nerd rage is soothed. How hard was that?
Even when the main Event was supposed to start there was no information as to why the games haven't started yet or what the hell was going on. "Sorry for the delay, we are working on it. Games will begin as soon as we fix the issue" as an Overlay; Problem solved. And instead of 30000 people guessing what's going on, and a lot of people raging in chat you get 30000 people who do something else until it starts and some kids who still rage.

Sorry for the Rant, but i had to get that off of my chest.
Overall the NASL has been an enjoyable experience for me, but some of the issues just drove me nuts.
Think for yourself and question authority.
ElJefe
Profile Joined July 2011
United States42 Posts
July 09 2011 13:41 GMT
#192
So what time does it start today (Saturday)? The website doesn't have any schedules posted.
Shirolol
Profile Joined April 2010
England504 Posts
July 09 2011 13:42 GMT
#193
On July 09 2011 22:39 Duis wrote:
But i think the main problem here is pubic relations.


Hahahahaha, you just made my day good sir. NASL's pubic relations certainly were the crux of the matter.
Korean Netizen wrote: My ears died from the static and the music and my eyes died from the depressing gameplay and bad observer.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 13:46:45
July 09 2011 13:45 GMT
#194
On July 09 2011 22:41 ElJefe wrote:
So what time does it start today (Saturday)? The website doesn't have any schedules posted.


In 4h and 17 min, so the first game should start in about 6 h.
I am not young enough to know everything.
Duis
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany16 Posts
July 09 2011 13:46 GMT
#195
On July 09 2011 22:42 Shirolol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 22:39 Duis wrote:
But i think the main problem here is pubic relations.


Hahahahaha, you just made my day good sir. NASL's pubic relations certainly were the crux of the matter.

lol :D
it was certainly not my intention to write that. But it happened, i apologize for this mistake and will spellcheck better in the future (Take that NASL)
Think for yourself and question authority.
Latty
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany567 Posts
July 09 2011 13:46 GMT
#196
the idea behind NASL is great bt failing since clash of the titans. i dont kno what i would prefer, 10 sec delay sound like in that showmatch or this annoying sound yesterday
"Nice, *claps* gogo kill kill, yeah bane speed, nice EU Power" Dimaga
kommunalka
Profile Joined February 2011
United States550 Posts
July 09 2011 13:56 GMT
#197
Looks like everything is on the upswing... hope all the kinks are worked out for a great day today
rG
may0nnaise
Profile Joined May 2011
United States40 Posts
July 09 2011 14:09 GMT
#198
moar pics! good to see everyone hanging around before the big event =]
spreadable goodness
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
July 09 2011 14:15 GMT
#199
On July 09 2011 22:10 Zandar wrote:
...
Ok I give up
Well not really, I'll watch it anyway, but there is a LOT of improvement here. This is so confusing, especially for people who don't browse TL daily. It's just to hard to find any recent info about the finals on nasl's own site



This should teach them to browse TL on an hourly basis :p
juraigamer
Profile Joined July 2010
42 Posts
July 09 2011 15:00 GMT
#200
Casters that appeal to a wide audience are what is needed for the nasl. Tastosis is a great example, as was the two casters that were present during one point of the nasl, several weeks ago.

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