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seupac
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada148 Posts
July 04 2011 05:53 GMT
#981
really bummed over all this ddosing and drophacking
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
July 04 2011 05:55 GMT
#982
It's entirely possible they're focusing their efforts on getting to the root of the cause that allows the drop hack to work, since banning random guest accounts doesn't actually do anything significant.
HellionDrop
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
281 Posts
July 04 2011 05:57 GMT
#983
it happened to me on a 3v3 game. luckily we still won , but that game was so painful to play. Blizzard PLZ ban those hackers.
sick_transit
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States195 Posts
July 04 2011 06:05 GMT
#984
On July 04 2011 14:34 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 14:30 snotboogie wrote:
It's really telling how Blizzard isn't even bothering to ban some of these guys.

They banned a lot on friday, but then the 4th of july weekend hit and they all went on vacation.


I don't think so. It is going to take them days to fix this. They have to work out a fix and then test it extensively before they implement. Their philosophy is going to be fix it once, get it right the first time. We will hear nothing from them and then suddenly it will be fixed.

They care. They invested $100 million in development into this game (supposedly) and have $300 million in revenue and 2 expansions on the way. I guarantee you they are working over the weekend on it.

At least that's my optimistic hope!

War is a drug.
Shrewmy
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia199 Posts
July 04 2011 06:13 GMT
#985
Blizzard can afford to pay people to work over the weekend, and you can bet there are employees willing to work public holidays.
MandoRelease
Profile Joined October 2010
France374 Posts
July 04 2011 06:23 GMT
#986
On July 04 2011 15:13 Shrewmy wrote:
Blizzard can afford to pay people to work over the weekend, and you can bet there are employees willing to work public holidays.


That's an interesting statement that has nothing to do with what's being discussed.
Anyway, I'm betting Blizzard employees would rather spend quality time with their family over the week-end or holidays than working every single day.
Just because they love their job doesn't mean they want their life to be just that.
When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground. Huge IMLosirA fan.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
July 04 2011 06:25 GMT
#987
On July 04 2011 15:05 sick_transit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 14:34 TheRabidDeer wrote:
On July 04 2011 14:30 snotboogie wrote:
It's really telling how Blizzard isn't even bothering to ban some of these guys.

They banned a lot on friday, but then the 4th of july weekend hit and they all went on vacation.


I don't think so. It is going to take them days to fix this. They have to work out a fix and then test it extensively before they implement. Their philosophy is going to be fix it once, get it right the first time. We will hear nothing from them and then suddenly it will be fixed.

They care. They invested $100 million in development into this game (supposedly) and have $300 million in revenue and 2 expansions on the way. I guarantee you they are working over the weekend on it.

At least that's my optimistic hope!



Look at the GM ladder. NowGtTheFkUp has been there a very long time. I refuse to believe that there is something preventing them from removing his account. I just don't understand. Every minute that guy is on the top of the ladder, its another shame to our community
x6Paramore
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada130 Posts
July 04 2011 10:28 GMT
#988
one good thing came out of this ordeal...

blizzard revenue went up by 44.99 British Pounds because I got so sick of NA ladder that I bought an EU account

seriously, out of the last 13 games i've played on NA ladder, I've been dropped 7 of them. I would be 2k Master if it wasn't for that dumbass shit.

i heard one guy turned all his settings to low and attack moved his workers and alt-tabbed and ended up winning somehow.. but apparently they are just cannoning themselves in now before they turn on the laghack...

another time, this guy tried to 2rax me with marines against my stalkers... he then proceeded to turn the hack on and off while he tried to "outmicro" me with his marines.. then, after i fucking raped him, he turned on the hack again and disconnected me...

i really hope that one day they will look back on this day and be like... "hey, remember that time we destroyed the NA ladder with that cool program, yeah.. that was fun" and then come to the sad fucking realization that they wasted so many hours of their time dropping random strangers to get to rank 1, only to notice that the community didn't give 2 fucks 2 weeks later or even know who it was that did it.

i mean hey, if they were to be bold enough to post their real identities, with pictures and everything, we might even be able to immortalize them with some sort of webpage about how great these assholes are before we burn their house down. but since we will never really know who these tards are, and there are so many aliases that we can't really say "oh yeah, that was "THIS" guy".. any semblance of remembering who these guys were just went down the drain...

gl hf
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
July 04 2011 10:30 GMT
#989
On July 04 2011 14:55 sylverfyre wrote:
It's entirely possible they're focusing their efforts on getting to the root of the cause that allows the drop hack to work, since banning random guest accounts doesn't actually do anything significant.


yes, nothing significant except ruining the experiences of all their paying customers
demonik187
Profile Joined August 2010
United States575 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 11:30:46
July 04 2011 11:20 GMT
#990
On July 04 2011 15:23 MandoRelease wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 15:13 Shrewmy wrote:
Blizzard can afford to pay people to work over the weekend, and you can bet there are employees willing to work public holidays.


That's an interesting statement that has nothing to do with what's being discussed.
Anyway, I'm betting Blizzard employees would rather spend quality time with their family over the week-end or holidays than working every single day.
Just because they love their job doesn't mean they want their life to be just that.



How does it have nothing to do with what's being discussed when he is referring to people staying over the weekend to work on the issue that's being discussed? Besides that, there are plenty of people who like to work holidays for the extra money.


Edit: As a side note, I remember something like this in the beta or maybe it was early release... Really frustrating to lose to this and kinda sad for the people that actually use it. What sense of accomplishment do you get from cheating your way to the top? There is no gain except ladder points and being in a higher league. However, what does that matter when you are most likely very outclassed, to the point that if you decided to actually play a game you would be dominated repeatedly to the point of depression.
We march to victory!
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
July 04 2011 11:37 GMT
#991
On July 04 2011 20:20 demonik187 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 15:23 MandoRelease wrote:
On July 04 2011 15:13 Shrewmy wrote:
Blizzard can afford to pay people to work over the weekend, and you can bet there are employees willing to work public holidays.


That's an interesting statement that has nothing to do with what's being discussed.
Anyway, I'm betting Blizzard employees would rather spend quality time with their family over the week-end or holidays than working every single day.
Just because they love their job doesn't mean they want their life to be just that.



How does it have nothing to do with what's being discussed when he is referring to people staying over the weekend to work on the issue that's being discussed? Besides that, there are plenty of people who like to work holidays for the extra money.


Edit: As a side note, I remember something like this in the beta or maybe it was early release... Really frustrating to lose to this and kinda sad for the people that actually use it. What sense of accomplishment do you get from cheating your way to the top? There is no gain except ladder points and being in a higher league. However, what does that matter when you are most likely very outclassed, to the point that if you decided to actually play a game you would be dominated repeatedly to the point of depression.


A lot of the joy comes from the fact that there's a person on the other end that you're screwing with. It's the same reason people play jokes on April Fool's Day, troll on forums, etc.
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
July 04 2011 11:42 GMT
#992
On July 04 2011 19:28 x6Paramore wrote:
one good thing came out of this ordeal...

blizzard revenue went up by 44.99 British Pounds because I got so sick of NA ladder that I bought an EU account

seriously, out of the last 13 games i've played on NA ladder, I've been dropped 7 of them. I would be 2k Master if it wasn't for that dumbass shit.

i heard one guy turned all his settings to low and attack moved his workers and alt-tabbed and ended up winning somehow.. but apparently they are just cannoning themselves in now before they turn on the laghack...

another time, this guy tried to 2rax me with marines against my stalkers... he then proceeded to turn the hack on and off while he tried to "outmicro" me with his marines.. then, after i fucking raped him, he turned on the hack again and disconnected me...

i really hope that one day they will look back on this day and be like... "hey, remember that time we destroyed the NA ladder with that cool program, yeah.. that was fun" and then come to the sad fucking realization that they wasted so many hours of their time dropping random strangers to get to rank 1, only to notice that the community didn't give 2 fucks 2 weeks later or even know who it was that did it.

i mean hey, if they were to be bold enough to post their real identities, with pictures and everything, we might even be able to immortalize them with some sort of webpage about how great these assholes are before we burn their house down. but since we will never really know who these tards are, and there are so many aliases that we can't really say "oh yeah, that was "THIS" guy".. any semblance of remembering who these guys were just went down the drain...

gl hf


I'm sorry to say but they are wrecking the EU ladder as well, maybe not as bad on NA though. I've had 4 people drophack me since yesterday.
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
alia
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States294 Posts
July 04 2011 11:47 GMT
#993
Maybe it's time we all got Korean accounts. @_@
Hashmeister
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany238 Posts
July 04 2011 13:24 GMT
#994
Woa that is crazy. I wish all the hackers would just leave and not play the game!!!
bit.ly/hashmeister
SundeR.
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia112 Posts
July 04 2011 14:48 GMT
#995
'ToLoverRu' - SEA server drop hacking.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 14:54:09
July 04 2011 14:53 GMT
#996
On a hunch -

If the lag hack being used is in principal/concept similar to a prototype I made as a concept evaluation, it will create a large amount of control delay for the lag hack user proportional to the lag invoked, but no extra control delay for the victim of the "hack" (it's not really a hack if this is what it does btw...)

Therefore, if you are super serious about keeping your points, it would be true for the duration of the hack that the opponent will have a sorely difficult time controlling units and doing things in a timely fashion, whereas you will basically be able to play perfectly since the game is moving so slowly.

Of course if you are actually getting insane control delay too and not just a game slowdown type lag... then I'm not sure exactly how the lag hack operates. I never did try to discover how a (possibly) more invasive hack might be done and therefore countered.
Desti
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany138 Posts
July 04 2011 14:55 GMT
#997
On July 04 2011 15:23 MandoRelease wrote:


That's an interesting statement that has nothing to do with what's being discussed.
Anyway, I'm betting Blizzard employees would rather spend quality time with their family over the week-end or holidays than working every single day.
Just because they love their job doesn't mean they want their life to be just that.



Blizzard could hire me for weekends and I will have an eye on the ladder with a big fat red ban button
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
July 04 2011 14:55 GMT
#998
i actually like that they are not fixing this ASAP, there's gonna be a massive clean-up in a while and a lot of people will have learned a lesson.
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EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
July 04 2011 15:01 GMT
#999
Just played a guy called SrslyTaka on EU. He had a 39-0 streak from drophacking and then started playing cheesy instead at top masters/GM o.o Easiest 14 points I have ever gotten lol.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
novabossa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States350 Posts
July 04 2011 15:16 GMT
#1000
On July 04 2011 23:53 EtherealDeath wrote:
On a hunch -

If the lag hack being used is in principal/concept similar to a prototype I made as a concept evaluation, it will create a large amount of control delay for the lag hack user proportional to the lag invoked, but no extra control delay for the victim of the "hack" (it's not really a hack if this is what it does btw...)

Therefore, if you are super serious about keeping your points, it would be true for the duration of the hack that the opponent will have a sorely difficult time controlling units and doing things in a timely fashion, whereas you will basically be able to play perfectly since the game is moving so slowly.

Of course if you are actually getting insane control delay too and not just a game slowdown type lag... then I'm not sure exactly how the lag hack operates. I never did try to discover how a (possibly) more invasive hack might be done and therefore countered.


From what I've seen on streams, that's not how it works. It doesn't matter if you decide to stay in a game and try to play it out....you just get automatically dropped after a certain period of time.
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