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UFO
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
582 Posts
June 25 2011 02:47 GMT
#841
On June 25 2011 11:40 Ballistixz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 11:38 Greatness wrote:
On June 25 2011 11:36 Ballistixz wrote:
whats funny is that since HuK and TLO are top pro players ppl start a riot and rage call blizzard idiots. but if this happens to anyone else no one would bat an eye.

rules are rules and not even pro players are immune from those rules. ppl need to understand that.....

Where's the line then?

Remember when we didn't have to pay for more than one account for cross server play, or unlimited account creation? Now we have to PAY to change names? And now we can't share what WE bought? Ridiculous.



yes u bought the game, but there is something called the ToS and you agreed tho those terms and are bound to those rules. pro players should not be exempt from that.


We agreed on those terms because we didn`t have a goddamn choice, other than do it or not play the game. We didn`t agree that these terms were moral, ethical, rightful and correct. We didn`t have a fucking choice.

Now you support dysfunctional decisions that come out of these "rules" because you believe "rules are rules and need to be followed !" - but you don`t fucking see where they come from and what purpose they do serve and what purpose they should serve and how they contribute to the well-being and benefit of the whole community and everyone else.
ribboo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1842 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 02:51:07
June 25 2011 02:50 GMT
#842
On June 25 2011 11:35 sCfO20 wrote:
IMHO, Blizzard needs to back off. Who are they to tell me what to do with my 60 bucks?

They're gonna ruin it with their fanbase if they keep chargin out the ass for little things like this. You tell me, what the fuck does it matter to you if for an hour someone hops on my computer and fucks up my MMR? It doesn't matter to me. It should matter even less to those greedy little fucks.

There's gotta be somethin we can do to stop this. WE ARE THE PEOPLE.

This is not you, this is players at the top of the ladder. What does it do? Well, when Blizzard use's their ladder ranking to invite people to tournaments, lending out your account to better players (yes, HuK is better than TLO) it results in players that doesn't deserve their spot, gets invited.

Do we want this? No, we do not.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
June 25 2011 02:50 GMT
#843
On June 25 2011 11:47 UFO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 11:40 Ballistixz wrote:
On June 25 2011 11:38 Greatness wrote:
On June 25 2011 11:36 Ballistixz wrote:
whats funny is that since HuK and TLO are top pro players ppl start a riot and rage call blizzard idiots. but if this happens to anyone else no one would bat an eye.

rules are rules and not even pro players are immune from those rules. ppl need to understand that.....

Where's the line then?

Remember when we didn't have to pay for more than one account for cross server play, or unlimited account creation? Now we have to PAY to change names? And now we can't share what WE bought? Ridiculous.



yes u bought the game, but there is something called the ToS and you agreed tho those terms and are bound to those rules. pro players should not be exempt from that.


We agreed on those terms because we didn`t have a goddamn choice, other than do it or not play the game. We didn`t agree that these terms were moral, ethical, rightful and correct. We didn`t have a fucking choice.

Now you support dysfunctional decisions that come out of these "rules" because you believe "rules are rules and need to be followed !" - but you don`t fucking see where they come from and what purpose they do serve and what purpose they should serve and how they contribute to the well-being and benefit of the whole community and everyone else.


What if everyone disagrees as you suggest? Wouldn't it be a mess which rules are really followed and which ones aren't? Answer honestly, please.
HEROwithNOlegacy
Profile Joined June 2010
United States850 Posts
June 25 2011 02:51 GMT
#844
This seems a little ridiculous, I am surprised this is just happening now considering I have seen other pro gamers in other situations on streams. I guess Blizzard never noticed or chose now to only speak up. Anyways, I'm sure Blizzard has there reasons and hopefully they will talk about this publicly in more detail.
SlayerS Fighting!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 02:54:05
June 25 2011 02:53 GMT
#845
The only logical explanation is they want to send a message to all players that no one is safe as silly as it may sound. They want all players to abide by the ToS.
Rampager
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia1007 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 02:55:47
June 25 2011 02:54 GMT
#846
On June 25 2011 11:47 UFO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 11:40 Ballistixz wrote:
On June 25 2011 11:38 Greatness wrote:
On June 25 2011 11:36 Ballistixz wrote:
whats funny is that since HuK and TLO are top pro players ppl start a riot and rage call blizzard idiots. but if this happens to anyone else no one would bat an eye.

rules are rules and not even pro players are immune from those rules. ppl need to understand that.....

Where's the line then?

Remember when we didn't have to pay for more than one account for cross server play, or unlimited account creation? Now we have to PAY to change names? And now we can't share what WE bought? Ridiculous.



yes u bought the game, but there is something called the ToS and you agreed tho those terms and are bound to those rules. pro players should not be exempt from that.


We agreed on those terms because we didn`t have a goddamn choice, other than do it or not play the game. We didn`t agree that these terms were moral, ethical, rightful and correct. We didn`t have a fucking choice.


Ah, but you did have a choice. You don't install the game, that is your choice. Law is pretty amazing sometimes.

Read the Windows 7 or Mac OS ToS sometime. You'll be... pleasantly surprised.

Blizzard doing what they gotta do.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
June 25 2011 02:55 GMT
#847
What about Cella? All sorts of Slayers team people use his account on his stream all the time. I understand wanting to send a message, but really, this just seems petty. I do not think account sharing should really be an issue at all. I mean, he was obviously on stream and not doing anything malicious.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
June 25 2011 02:57 GMT
#848
On June 25 2011 11:47 UFO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 11:40 Ballistixz wrote:
On June 25 2011 11:38 Greatness wrote:
On June 25 2011 11:36 Ballistixz wrote:
whats funny is that since HuK and TLO are top pro players ppl start a riot and rage call blizzard idiots. but if this happens to anyone else no one would bat an eye.

rules are rules and not even pro players are immune from those rules. ppl need to understand that.....

Where's the line then?

Remember when we didn't have to pay for more than one account for cross server play, or unlimited account creation? Now we have to PAY to change names? And now we can't share what WE bought? Ridiculous.



yes u bought the game, but there is something called the ToS and you agreed tho those terms and are bound to those rules. pro players should not be exempt from that.


We agreed on those terms because we didn`t have a goddamn choice, other than do it or not play the game. We didn`t agree that these terms were moral, ethical, rightful and correct. We didn`t have a fucking choice.

Now you support dysfunctional decisions that come out of these "rules" because you believe "rules are rules and need to be followed !" - but you don`t fucking see where they come from and what purpose they do serve and what purpose they should serve and how they contribute to the well-being and benefit of the whole community and everyone else.


playing starcraft is not a RIGHT. you always have the choice to not play the game.

blizzard's decision to censure huk/tlo for something that is pretty innocuous is laughable, but your logic is terrible.
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
June 25 2011 02:58 GMT
#849
On June 25 2011 11:35 sCfO20 wrote:
IMHO, Blizzard needs to back off. Who are they to tell me what to do with my 60 bucks?

They're gonna ruin it with their fanbase if they keep chargin out the ass for little things like this. You tell me, what the fuck does it matter to you if for an hour someone hops on my computer and fucks up my MMR? It doesn't matter to me. It should matter even less to those greedy little fucks.

There's gotta be somethin we can do to stop this. WE ARE THE PEOPLE.


You do realize your argument can go both ways? Who are you to tell them what they can do with their game?

And either way, you basically missed the point of the dangers of account sharing. Such as boosting players' MMR, thus harming the legitimacy of the ladder, which is used in seeding/invites to tournaments that are worth money.

There's nothing about greed here, so cool your jets.
sCfO20
Profile Joined May 2011
176 Posts
June 25 2011 02:58 GMT
#850
yes u bought the game, but there is something called the ToS and you agreed tho those terms and are bound to those rules. pro players should not be exempt from that.

people really need to start reading the ToS when they buy something instead of just blindly pressing agree without reading a single word


Well if you're reading the terms of service, you're fucked anyways. You won't be able to get your money back.

Someone needs to punch blizzard right in the brain stem. I hope Diablo III's shit.

User was warned for this post
GhostBladE
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6 Posts
June 25 2011 02:59 GMT
#851
Its really annoying to read to the people who keep talking about Huk playing TLO's account to keep him from dropping out of grandmaster, it was because his own account wouldn't find a match and on top of that what does like 5 extra days matter anyways because one Huk is gone TLO's account won't be used anyways..
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
June 25 2011 03:00 GMT
#852
I think people are blowing this out of proportion.

Does anyone know what the context of the call was like? I.E was it just friends of Take giving him a heads up? Or was it something more formal?

I'm going to guess the former as HuK is still playing TLO's account
Bengui
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada775 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 03:02:44
June 25 2011 03:01 GMT
#853
Honest question : is there any ways to read the ToS before you purchase the game ? If you don't agree to them, can you get your money back?
-KarakStarcraft-
Profile Joined September 2010
United States258 Posts
June 25 2011 03:10 GMT
#854
On June 25 2011 06:54 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 06:46 Karak wrote:
On June 25 2011 06:44 Tula wrote:
On June 25 2011 06:23 chickenhawk wrote:
I'm not a lawyer but i don't think that what you talk about is really a contract. Anyway, i'm sure blizzard have good lawyers and they know that putting url to box is enough. Also, please stop posting with lists, it makes you sound disrespectful.


Sorry for posting with lists... its the way I normally think and organize my ideas will try to change.
For the TOS to be legally binding it must be a contract. And no it is not legal to say that the contract must be found somewhere and not at the place where you are going to make a purchase. Do you not find that odd? That a contract is not found at the place where you are going to buy something?


Mate, please use some common sense.
The TERMS OF SERVICE (TOS) are TERMS not a contract.
They are the terms blizzard offers for the right to use their product. Your only choice as a customer is to agree or to disagree. As i have stated above if you refuse to abide by those terms you may cancel your contract (meaning the original purchase).

Yes it is unusual, but it is also standard procedure for software, and covered quite well by legislation and jurisdiction. Also as a sidenote, when was the last time you actually read the "contract" you agree to when buying things in a Supermarket/shop? You'd be surprised what kind of stuff is written in there, but most likely you have never read it.


They sure as hell are a contract in the technical sense. There's really no distinction, so it's a moot point.

And someone said earlier "We the gamers [don't have the choice to click accept or not if we want to play the game]" or something of the sort.

You certainly do have a choice. Click decline, return the product and receive a refund. If you do not like the terms offered by that company, choose to purchase games manufactured by a different company.


Pretty sure there isn't a store in the states that accepts PC games that are returned opened.


You have to return it directly to the publisher. PC Gamer did a good test and write up on this a while back.
Temporarykid
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada362 Posts
June 25 2011 03:12 GMT
#855
Damn a lot of my silver league friends share accounts and they don't even ladder... only customs.

I wonder how serious blizzard will take it. I mean, if they're going to ban the pros... This is actually a very bad step forward for blizzard imo.
ㅈㅈ
Kaminate
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States49 Posts
June 25 2011 03:12 GMT
#856
How was it made public that they were sharing accounts? Like, if someone's posting an article that gives people the idea that account sharing is possible, Blizzard has to affirm the public that no that's not kosher with them. In that light, making an example of these 2 guys is reasonable, but still makes Blizzard look dictatorial.
I need to stop thinking, Wow, this guy is a noob and start thinking, Where the hell is his proxy?
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
June 25 2011 03:13 GMT
#857
On June 25 2011 11:59 GhostBladE wrote:
Its really annoying to read to the people who keep talking about Huk playing TLO's account to keep him from dropping out of grandmaster, it was because his own account wouldn't find a match and on top of that what does like 5 extra days matter anyways because one Huk is gone TLO's account won't be used anyways..

The OP was saying something about custom games too.
mousepad
Profile Joined April 2010
United States136 Posts
June 25 2011 03:13 GMT
#858
This is one of those wierd situations where I can agree and disagree with the attention blizzard is paying to pros and sharing accounts. There have been some problems in the past with players trying to game the system and get higher on the rankings.

Thing is, this seems like there was nothing nefarious going on here, TLO was letting Huk borrow his account so he warm up and play. Maybe I'm getting the wrong impression, but it seems...tactless. These people aren't just making themselves money -- they're attracting an audience -- they're inadvertently advertising for Blizzard. Wouldn't it make more sense to provide tournaments with a bunch of 96 hour accounts or something along that line?
Cartel
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada255 Posts
June 25 2011 03:22 GMT
#859
Three things come to my mind about this:

1. People should be absolutely thrilled that Blizzard enforces their rules on such things as 3rd party programs, hacking, and account sharing. Remember when people bitched for 10+ years for video game companies (especially blizz) to enforce against things like hacking and online fair play. Because blizzard has invites to BIG money tournaments, they need to make sure to the "best" of their ability that there is no account sharing. Think about all the other companies that dont give a shit about things like hacking.

2. People should be angry about Blizzard and SC2's incapability to change realms to play on with 1 account. This is absurd and I dont see why this isnt possible to my knowledge. Let pro players play on all continents with 1 purchase. Sure, they have to go up the ranks in each but thats not a problem.

3. Since the enforcement is clear now, each pro team needs to spend $500 on multiple copies for their team so that this wont happen again, because I would hate to see pros get their accounts banned.
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
June 25 2011 03:24 GMT
#860
This is stupid. We've seen situations like this so many times where Blizzard hasn't intervened. Yet they bother when my homeboy HuK does it. Anyways, your lan idea is never going to happen and so will the Global Ladder.
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