EPTLol no, its actually Blizzard's game. We all agree to the ToS when we bought the game. What's the problem
A car is nothing without a driver
A key is nothing with out a lock
Capiche?
Blizzard warns HuK/TLO for account sharing - Page 35
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chickenhawk
Portugal339 Posts
A car is nothing without a driver A key is nothing with out a lock Capiche? | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On June 25 2011 08:10 Soleron wrote: It's an illegal contract and unenforceable. ToS and EULAs would not hold up if in court as binding contracts. They can't brick your game installation, but denying you online service is easily within the rights of the company. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On June 25 2011 08:12 chickenhawk wrote: A car is nothing without a driver A key is nothing with out a lock Capiche? Not really. The law doesn't work on such high school levels. | ||
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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
That's it, this is the straw that broke the camel's back. You can perma ban me now. I don't want to be part of this awful community anymore. | ||
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Phaded
Australia579 Posts
On June 25 2011 08:06 Medrea wrote: People are using GSL and GSTL as an example when those accounts are purchased on behalf of and exclusively for the team, which is who owns the account. Does not apply here. Might want to reread the EULA, accounts are bound people, not entities, and the game cannot be sublicensed or transferred to other persons or entities. Section 7. No transfer or sublicense | ||
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On June 25 2011 02:52 Calm wrote: This. I have watched HuK ladder on his stream with TLO's account this week, maintaining the #1 position for TLO who is not playing at all. I can see Blizzard being upset about this. Right. I wish I could get a GSL code S player to farm my account for GM. | ||
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AxelTVx
Canada916 Posts
On June 25 2011 08:13 AlBundy wrote: This is incredible. I'm not talking about the warning, I'm just talking about this thread. That's it, this is the straw that broke the camel's back. You can perma ban me now. I don't want to be part of this awful community anymore. Some are a few trolls. Don't Matyr though... And also most of us are protecting the TL community, because HuK and TLO have basically been threatened... | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
This is not even news worthy, you sure guys love drama for the sake of drama. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On June 25 2011 08:15 Phaded wrote: Might want to reread the EULA, accounts are bound people, not entities, and the game cannot be sublicensed or transferred to other persons or entities. Section 7. No transfer or sublicense I am not so sure about this, but even if this was the case, I am sure they didn;t go to fucking walmart and just pick up a copy of good ol wings of liberty out of the glass case for the team. Surely Blizzard was able to work with these teams and generate a team account, probably costing the team many times the cost of one game. | ||
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oBlade
United States5898 Posts
On June 25 2011 08:16 windsupernova wrote: And its not like they banned them, if this had been a non pro you guys would be clamoring for a banning. This is false. We oppose injustice whomever it targets. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=126088 | ||
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MaGariShun
Austria305 Posts
On June 25 2011 08:10 Axel.Bowex wrote: This is just wow...... They're warning the winner of DH which is bringing them so much publicity? They don't care about ESPORTS really, at least not more than about normal, casual customers. It brings them little to no publicity how it is at the moment (let's face it - most of the people watching already have the game or know it and have no intentions to buy it). They just care as much so that the pros and with them the people following the scene buy their next expansions, but that's about it. I'm really starting to think they should have made it subscription based, so they could make more money in the long run, we would have to pay less if we only played it a month or so (also easier to get into it) and they would be forced to keep pleasing their customers to not lose the subscriber base. | ||
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Turbo.Tactics
Germany675 Posts
On June 25 2011 08:03 Mailing wrote: So basically Huk has to lose on purpose 10 games in a row just so he can play the game? Makes sense. Your arguement makes absolutely no sense. He has to contact the support to find a way to lower/reset his ranking OR he has to buy a new account or wait in line to get a worthy opponent. The matchmaking is not built for that excessive gaming behaviour and the problem of the 1# spot has been pretty much the same in EVERY game with matchmaking based on ranks. Daigo has the same problem when playing online in ssf4 ae... its universal. The air is thin at the top and gets thinner with every step, not only skillwise but the same logic aplies to quantity of players. | ||
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mholden02
387 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
On June 25 2011 07:57 goiflin wrote: How about no? How's that sound? They basically want HuK to buy a new account and grind it up to masters if he wants to find games quickly. It's silly, and this type of behavior shouldn't be supported. Honestly, it's the same thing as lending a game to your friend. Companies don't like that; they'd rather have your friend buy the game himself to play it. But, just because the company says that it's wrong, doesn't make the action wrong. There's nothing wrong with sharing an account for something like this. Perhaps if HuK was playing on TLO's account forever, and never actually had his own account, ever. Maybe then, it would warrant a warning. But this is just silly. We shouldn't just sit down and listen to them. And honestly, people aren't going to take esports seriously if we listen to blizzard. If we listened to blizzard, and never complained, we wouldn't have had GSL maps in the ladder pool; we'd still have steppes of war in there, since blizzard said they wanted rush maps in the ladder pool, like steppes of war. There actually is something wrong with it. We're ALL watching these games being streamed, that's a HUGE amount of people who can easily be influenced to the point where they think not simply that it's fine to share accounts. (And I'm not arguing whether it is or isn't right now), but actually get MAD AT BLIZZARD for saying that it is wrong to. Case in point is this thread. It's positively ludicris! Whether or not account sharing is wrong Blizzard SHOULD have the right to fucking WARN people when they arn't following the ToS for THEIR game. That's what I'm trying to say. I'm not saying it's right or wrong to share accounts. I'm saying it's wrong to get upset at blizzard for telling a pro-gamer that he is disobeying the rules they set. I'm not even gonna dignify the slippery slope fallacy of your third paragraph with a response. | ||
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shizna
United Kingdom803 Posts
that activity turned out to be logging on from different IP's. erm, my isp connection gives me a dynamic IP whenever my router is rebooted... what am i supposed to do? basically i had to go through rediculously tedious 'account recovery', and wait 2-3 days, before i could get access to my account. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
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Mashmed
Sweden198 Posts
On June 25 2011 00:47 Imrik wrote: Do you really want LAN? In all seriousness, I can understand why Blizzard is doing this, it sends a very clear message that account sharing is not accepted. Not even for pros, which should deter players from participating in account sharing. Props to blizz for standing behind their policy I guess... So if a player in EU want goes to north america to perform in a tournament he first has to spend 30euro(? not sure on the euro amount) on a new account to be able to do so? Blizzard has become money-craving idiots in my eyes. They claim to be catering to e-sports but I really think that is just a way for them to earn more money. | ||
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
On June 25 2011 07:39 oBlade wrote: Someone should tell Boxer and Kim Ga-yeon that they can expect a call from Blizzard Korea. Message from Marc Olbertz (community manager for Blizzard): '' Thanks for the suggestion. I almost missed that case. That was some serious violation of our policy. No need to call them. Will just ban them from using Blizzard products for life.'' | ||
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duk3
United States807 Posts
It's a terrible rule, if they banned everyone who shared accounts, there wouldn't be too many people left to play the game. | ||
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