EPTThe Official Live On Three Thread - Page 131
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Merlin_Shaw
United States2 Posts
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djWHEAT
United States925 Posts
On March 28 2013 13:23 teapoted wrote: Really all depends on what level of understanding we're talking about here. Yes, in an RTS you understand that there are 2 armies and they fight each-other. Does that mean you understand the game enough to enjoy it? Probably not. And to be honest, that's the same level of understanding you'd get from any game. I understand that in American football there are two teams and a ball. This is not enough for me to enjoy it. You need to know more about SC2 than 'there are 2 armies' to enjoy it. While a fighting game or an fps game you can enjoy with very limited knowledge. ~ If they did this survey I'd bet money on the results being 1. Fighters. 2. FPS. 3. RTS. 4. Dota games. ~ Conclusion: It's more about games than genres. I'm so stoked that you guys are talking about this outside the show. I thought it was a pretty interesting discussion and would love to see a real life survey's results. I have to agree with you on your order of understanding. Keep in mind, I'm talking straight up some person who really doesn't know the concept of eSports. I think two people fighting instantly evokes understanding from boxing. FPS (specifically 1v1 like Quake) is hard to understand in a 3D space perspective, but easy to see aim, shoot, kill, score. RTS is like watching war, and while you might not understand everything, you can see what's left standing at the end. DOTA, without understanding, it's a very difficult genre to watch and appreciate. | ||
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YourAdHere
United States216 Posts
Arena shooters may look easy to grasp on a base level but I think it's mostly a false level of understanding whereas an RTS is more intimidating at the start but it's not too complicated to comprehend the basics. | ||
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Ichabod
United States1659 Posts
On March 29 2013 05:13 YourAdHere wrote: I thought I understood competitive Quake, and then I watched this great video of a top quake pro going over his thought process during a match and realized I knew nothing: ... Arena shooters may look easy to grasp on a base level but I think it's mostly a false level of understanding whereas an RTS is more intimidating at the start but it's not too complicated to comprehend the basics. Wow, Rapha's analysis is so orgasmic to listen to. Observing the elegance of such high-level play is humbling. | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
On March 29 2013 05:13 YourAdHere wrote: I thought I understood competitive Quake, and then I watched this great video of a top quake pro going over his thought process during a match and realized I knew nothing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdkDjsBiO58 Arena shooters may look easy to grasp on a base level but I think it's mostly a false level of understanding whereas an RTS is more intimidating at the start but it's not too complicated to comprehend the basics. Thanks a lot for that vid, enjoyed every minute of it. | ||
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Slasher
United States1095 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/OneMoreGameTV | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
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Rezudox
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http://twitch.tv/onemoregametv | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12024 Posts
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IRL_Sinister
Ireland621 Posts
So, this event is officially about World Championship Series. | ||
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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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IRL_Sinister
Ireland621 Posts
On April 03 2013 10:49 redviper wrote: Does anyone have Slasher's link? the chat isn't opening up for me. http://uk.gamespot.com/news/blizzard-unveils-revamped-16-million-2013-starcraft-ii-tournament-season-6406325 | ||
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geokilla
Canada8244 Posts
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Empirimancer
Canada1024 Posts
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Just looking at the prize money alone. Given a large portion is going to the final that's going to leave what, like 300k per region. Split across 3 tournaments. That's surely not game changing. As for viewership. People rant on about storylines and points, It makes a difference yes, but the storylines that draw people in is not based on points. And really this whole things sound like you'd have less international tournaments with big Korea-vs-West showdowns. (yes they're still allowed to do it, but the motivation seems less) And regional online tournaments, great for players, viewers in SC2 don't seem too attracted to it. Great to see Blizzard step up, but it sounds like what people are expecting the results to be is far more than it might be. ~ Also on Slashers final point. Valve should not do what LCS or Blizzard is doing. It amazes me that people keep on saying that companies are doing everything right because they are putting money into it. We don't know what the return is like. We don't know if it's sustainable. The only thing we do know, is if it's not, it will ruin those games. We can't look at LCS with 150k viewers when they're paying how much in salaries to players/casters and 2 production studios and say "this is the right way," because the viewer number alone doesn't answer that question. And I'm someone who watched Dota since before there were real tournaments, maybe that's why I care more about time being spent on developing tools for sustainability. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
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Rezudox
207 Posts
http://archive.org/download/LiveOnThreePodcast/LiveOnThree-153.mp3 (Right click, save as.) Enjoy. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On April 03 2013 22:22 Rezudox wrote: Mp3 for Live On Three Episode 153 - Blizzard announcement special with guest host EGiNcontroL. http://archive.org/download/LiveOnThreePodcast/LiveOnThree-153.mp3 (Right click, save as.) Enjoy. Thanks dude <3 | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
On April 03 2013 22:22 Rezudox wrote: Mp3 for Live On Three Episode 153 - Blizzard announcement special with guest host EGiNcontroL. http://archive.org/download/LiveOnThreePodcast/LiveOnThree-153.mp3 (Right click, save as.) Enjoy. Yes! Thanks Rezudox! | ||
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