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Merlin_Shaw
Profile Joined March 2013
United States2 Posts
March 28 2013 19:13 GMT
#2601
Rezudox, I had to create a Teamliquid account just to thank you so much for these MP3's!!!!
djWHEAT
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States925 Posts
March 28 2013 19:23 GMT
#2602
On March 28 2013 13:23 teapoted wrote:
Really all depends on what level of understanding we're talking about here. Yes, in an RTS you understand that there are 2 armies and they fight each-other. Does that mean you understand the game enough to enjoy it? Probably not. And to be honest, that's the same level of understanding you'd get from any game.

I understand that in American football there are two teams and a ball. This is not enough for me to enjoy it.

You need to know more about SC2 than 'there are 2 armies' to enjoy it.

While a fighting game or an fps game you can enjoy with very limited knowledge.

~

If they did this survey I'd bet money on the results being

1. Fighters.
2. FPS.
3. RTS.
4. Dota games.

~


Conclusion: It's more about games than genres.


I'm so stoked that you guys are talking about this outside the show. I thought it was a pretty interesting discussion and would love to see a real life survey's results.

I have to agree with you on your order of understanding. Keep in mind, I'm talking straight up some person who really doesn't know the concept of eSports. I think two people fighting instantly evokes understanding from boxing. FPS (specifically 1v1 like Quake) is hard to understand in a 3D space perspective, but easy to see aim, shoot, kill, score. RTS is like watching war, and while you might not understand everything, you can see what's left standing at the end. DOTA, without understanding, it's a very difficult genre to watch and appreciate.
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YourAdHere
Profile Joined May 2011
United States216 Posts
March 28 2013 20:13 GMT
#2603
I thought I understood competitive Quake, and then I watched this great video of a top quake pro going over his thought process during a match and realized I knew nothing:


Arena shooters may look easy to grasp on a base level but I think it's mostly a false level of understanding whereas an RTS is more intimidating at the start but it's not too complicated to comprehend the basics.
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
March 31 2013 06:06 GMT
#2604
On March 29 2013 05:13 YourAdHere wrote:
I thought I understood competitive Quake, and then I watched this great video of a top quake pro going over his thought process during a match and realized I knew nothing: ...
Arena shooters may look easy to grasp on a base level but I think it's mostly a false level of understanding whereas an RTS is more intimidating at the start but it's not too complicated to comprehend the basics.

Wow, Rapha's analysis is so orgasmic to listen to. Observing the elegance of such high-level play is humbling.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
March 31 2013 06:59 GMT
#2605
On March 29 2013 05:13 YourAdHere wrote:
I thought I understood competitive Quake, and then I watched this great video of a top quake pro going over his thought process during a match and realized I knew nothing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdkDjsBiO58

Arena shooters may look easy to grasp on a base level but I think it's mostly a false level of understanding whereas an RTS is more intimidating at the start but it's not too complicated to comprehend the basics.


Thanks a lot for that vid, enjoyed every minute of it.
Slasher
Profile Joined September 2007
United States1095 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 01:10:40
April 03 2013 01:08 GMT
#2606
Special SC2 announcement show now LIVE!

http://www.twitch.tv/OneMoreGameTV
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
April 03 2013 01:21 GMT
#2607
Final Boss in Halo 2 were pretty dominant, 2003-5 they won pretty much every MLG. Then in 2007 they won the National Championships without dropping a game.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Rezudox
Profile Joined July 2012
207 Posts
April 03 2013 01:28 GMT
#2608
Blizzard Special live now. I didn't know ahead of time to update the OP.

http://twitch.tv/onemoregametv
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12025 Posts
April 03 2013 01:30 GMT
#2609
I knew SK or NiP now were good, but I didn't realise they were undefeated O_O
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IRL_Sinister
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Ireland621 Posts
April 03 2013 01:41 GMT
#2610
So, this event is officially about World Championship Series.
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
April 03 2013 01:49 GMT
#2611
Does anyone have Slasher's link? the chat isn't opening up for me.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
April 03 2013 01:50 GMT
#2612
http://www.gamespot.com/news/blizzard-unveils-revamped-16-million-2013-starcraft-ii-tournament-season-6406325
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IRL_Sinister
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Ireland621 Posts
April 03 2013 01:51 GMT
#2613
On April 03 2013 10:49 redviper wrote:
Does anyone have Slasher's link? the chat isn't opening up for me.


http://uk.gamespot.com/news/blizzard-unveils-revamped-16-million-2013-starcraft-ii-tournament-season-6406325

geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
April 03 2013 01:57 GMT
#2614
North Korea...
Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
April 03 2013 02:11 GMT
#2615
djWheat, shut the hell up and let Slasher speak.

teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 03:11:29
April 03 2013 02:51 GMT
#2616
I feel like based on the information that's public that the effect on the NA/EU scene is being greatly exaggerated. It'll obviously be good, but I don't see how this can 'change everything' in those areas.

Just looking at the prize money alone. Given a large portion is going to the final that's going to leave what, like 300k per region. Split across 3 tournaments. That's surely not game changing.

As for viewership. People rant on about storylines and points, It makes a difference yes, but the storylines that draw people in is not based on points. And really this whole things sound like you'd have less international tournaments with big Korea-vs-West showdowns. (yes they're still allowed to do it, but the motivation seems less) And regional online tournaments, great for players, viewers in SC2 don't seem too attracted to it.

Great to see Blizzard step up, but it sounds like what people are expecting the results to be is far more than it might be.

~

Also on Slashers final point. Valve should not do what LCS or Blizzard is doing. It amazes me that people keep on saying that companies are doing everything right because they are putting money into it. We don't know what the return is like. We don't know if it's sustainable. The only thing we do know, is if it's not, it will ruin those games. We can't look at LCS with 150k viewers when they're paying how much in salaries to players/casters and 2 production studios and say "this is the right way," because the viewer number alone doesn't answer that question.

And I'm someone who watched Dota since before there were real tournaments, maybe that's why I care more about time being spent on developing tools for sustainability.
Once you Goblak...
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
April 03 2013 13:04 GMT
#2617
Does anyone have an mp3 of last nights episode?
Rezudox
Profile Joined July 2012
207 Posts
April 03 2013 13:22 GMT
#2618
Mp3 for Live On Three Episode 153 - Blizzard announcement special with guest host EGiNcontroL.

http://archive.org/download/LiveOnThreePodcast/LiveOnThree-153.mp3 (Right click, save as.)

Enjoy.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
April 03 2013 13:35 GMT
#2619
On April 03 2013 22:22 Rezudox wrote:
Mp3 for Live On Three Episode 153 - Blizzard announcement special with guest host EGiNcontroL.

http://archive.org/download/LiveOnThreePodcast/LiveOnThree-153.mp3 (Right click, save as.)

Enjoy.


Thanks dude <3
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 03 2013 14:08 GMT
#2620
On April 03 2013 22:22 Rezudox wrote:
Mp3 for Live On Three Episode 153 - Blizzard announcement special with guest host EGiNcontroL.

http://archive.org/download/LiveOnThreePodcast/LiveOnThree-153.mp3 (Right click, save as.)

Enjoy.


Yes! Thanks Rezudox!
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