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KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 21:43:46
June 22 2011 21:43 GMT
#2
First

Can't wait to watch todays show ^^
In order to move forward, we must rid ourselves of that which holds us back. Check out my stream and give me tips! twitch.tv/intotheskyy
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
June 22 2011 21:43 GMT
#3
I hope you guys aren't over the moon for the inflated LoL viewer numbers.
GrimReefer
Profile Joined March 2011
United States442 Posts
June 22 2011 21:45 GMT
#4
nice, i hope i remember to watch this!
You're rapping about homosexuals and Vicodin, I can't sell this sh*t.
Slasher
Profile Joined September 2007
United States1095 Posts
June 22 2011 21:56 GMT
#5
On June 23 2011 06:43 Eury wrote:
I hope you guys aren't over the moon for the inflated LoL viewer numbers.

We will be discussing with Matt this topic
Mairu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States222 Posts
June 22 2011 22:00 GMT
#6
On June 23 2011 06:43 Eury wrote:
I hope you guys aren't over the moon for the inflated LoL viewer numbers.

Can you imagine the number for SC2 streams if Blizzard pasted it on the client launcher/website as much as Riot does with their LoL tournaments? :O
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 22 2011 22:03 GMT
#7
On June 23 2011 07:00 Mairu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 06:43 Eury wrote:
I hope you guys aren't over the moon for the inflated LoL viewer numbers.

Can you imagine the number for SC2 streams if Blizzard pasted it on the client launcher/website as much as Riot does with their LoL tournaments? :O


Which raises the question, why doesn't Blizzard do this?
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Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
June 22 2011 22:05 GMT
#8
On June 23 2011 07:03 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 07:00 Mairu wrote:
On June 23 2011 06:43 Eury wrote:
I hope you guys aren't over the moon for the inflated LoL viewer numbers.

Can you imagine the number for SC2 streams if Blizzard pasted it on the client launcher/website as much as Riot does with their LoL tournaments? :O


Which raises the question, why doesn't Blizzard do this?


Blizzard doesn't support ESPORTS!!!!

But really, who knows.

I think they do for GSL at least, but they really should for MLG/Dreamhack/IEM/etc
Are you hurting ESPORTS? Find out today - http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=232866
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
June 22 2011 22:05 GMT
#9
The show starts in like an hour right? I will be watching the one on today for sure, The Dreamhack review sounds like it should be neat.
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
chesshaha
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1117 Posts
June 22 2011 22:06 GMT
#10
Long time viewer of the show, everyone who's interested in competitive gaming should tune in or get the pod cast every week.

Good topics tonight, looking forward to the Huk interview.
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leecH
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany385 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 22:10:09
June 22 2011 22:07 GMT
#11
you guys need to ask Matt Marcou why there are no replays, spectator mode and enough EU-Servers so their game can be played *cough*competitive*cough*.......

no fluff, right?
alexhard
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden317 Posts
June 22 2011 22:46 GMT
#12
Idra admits to throwing games on purpose:



Is this acceptable? Should tournaments have rules against this?

There have been instances in FPS games for example where both teams are trying to lose the game, resulting in ridiculous situations...surely we want to avoid that?
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
June 22 2011 22:51 GMT
#13
On June 23 2011 07:46 alexhard wrote:
Idra admits to throwing games on purpose:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GThEM3dNRLQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=355s

Is this acceptable? Should tournaments have rules against this?

There have been instances in FPS games for example where both teams are trying to lose the game, resulting in ridiculous situations...surely we want to avoid that?

His EG teammate Justin Wong caused a whole shitstorm about this too.
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
June 22 2011 22:55 GMT
#14
On June 23 2011 06:43 Eury wrote:
I hope you guys aren't over the moon for the inflated LoL viewer numbers.


They weren't really inflated, all they did was advertise better and LoL is very popular. When you opened the client it wouldn't count as a viewer or anything, if you clicked it it would open your browser and open the stream. If it counted stream viewers from opening LoL then there would be a lot more than that. LoL is currently the second largest PC game in the west(Just behind WoW).
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haffy
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom430 Posts
June 22 2011 22:58 GMT
#15
On June 23 2011 07:46 alexhard wrote:
Idra admits to throwing games on purpose:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GThEM3dNRLQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=355s

Is this acceptable? Should tournaments have rules against this?

There have been instances in FPS games for example where both teams are trying to lose the game, resulting in ridiculous situations...surely we want to avoid that?


It's up to the organiser to fix it in my opinion. It's happened in the world cup before, both teams needed a draw to get through, so they just passed the ball around for 90 minutes.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
June 22 2011 22:59 GMT
#16
Excited about tonight's show, really curious how the interview with RiotMarcou will go. He isn't the most popular guy in our sub forum.
MrDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada973 Posts
June 22 2011 23:00 GMT
#17
On June 23 2011 07:46 alexhard wrote:
Idra admits to throwing games on purpose:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GThEM3dNRLQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=355s

Is this acceptable? Should tournaments have rules against this?

There have been instances in FPS games for example where both teams are trying to lose the game, resulting in ridiculous situations...surely we want to avoid that?


I dont think its a situation that occurs that often as most tournaments dont function like NASL.
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
June 22 2011 23:02 GMT
#18
Wow....I just lost a GREAT deal of respect for IdrA.

I now know that he does not play to win, he really is just a cry baby after all. That's too bad, he had potential.

Either way I can't wait till the show, gonna be some epic shit talking with HuK, and I really want to know Riots take on their stream numbers.
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TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
June 22 2011 23:05 GMT
#19
On June 23 2011 07:58 haffy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 07:46 alexhard wrote:
Idra admits to throwing games on purpose:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GThEM3dNRLQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=355s

Is this acceptable? Should tournaments have rules against this?

There have been instances in FPS games for example where both teams are trying to lose the game, resulting in ridiculous situations...surely we want to avoid that?


It's up to the organiser to fix it in my opinion. It's happened in the world cup before, both teams needed a draw to get through, so they just passed the ball around for 90 minutes.

Not really a huge deal in my opinion. The NASL features hundreds of games, so 3 or 4 sets being thrown isn't that noticable. On top of that it's a free stream so I don't think fans are too entitled to complain that 4 of the 200+ games aren't competitive. It's not like a soccer game where fans purchase expensive tickets to watch a single game and support their team, and the team intentionaly throws the game.

It would be nice if the NASL was designed in a way that wouldn't make throwing games beneficial but again, it's not a big deal. Idra losing a series on purpose is definitely not something to create a shitstorm over.
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alexhard
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden317 Posts
June 22 2011 23:10 GMT
#20
On June 23 2011 08:05 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 07:58 haffy wrote:
On June 23 2011 07:46 alexhard wrote:
Idra admits to throwing games on purpose:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GThEM3dNRLQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=355s

Is this acceptable? Should tournaments have rules against this?

There have been instances in FPS games for example where both teams are trying to lose the game, resulting in ridiculous situations...surely we want to avoid that?


It's up to the organiser to fix it in my opinion. It's happened in the world cup before, both teams needed a draw to get through, so they just passed the ball around for 90 minutes.

Not really a huge deal in my opinion. The NASL features hundreds of games, so 3 or 4 sets being thrown isn't that noticable. On top of that it's a free stream so I don't think fans are too entitled to complain that 4 of the 200+ games aren't competitive. It's not like a soccer game where fans purchase expensive tickets to watch a single game and support their team, and the team intentionaly throws the game.

It would be nice if the NASL was designed in a way that wouldn't make throwing games beneficial but again, it's not a big deal. Idra losing a series on purpose is definitely not something to create a shitstorm over.


If players think it's acceptable to throw games to gain a better position in a tournament...it's not a big stretch to think that it's acceptable to throw games for money. Obviously I'm not saying Idra did that, but I think that even the appearance of the possibility of such impropriety should be heavily discouraged.
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