The Official Live On Three Thread - Page 2

On June 23 2011 08:05 TheSubtleArt wrote:

Not really a huge deal in my opinion. The NASL features hundreds of games, so 3 or 4 sets being thrown isn't that noticable. On top of that it's a free stream so I don't think fans are too entitled to complain that 4 of the 200+ games aren't competitive. It's not like a soccer game where fans purchase expensive tickets to watch a single game and support their team, and the team intentionaly throws the game.

It would be nice if the NASL was designed in a way that wouldn't make throwing games beneficial but again, it's not a big deal. Idra losing a series on purpose is definitely not something to create a shitstorm over.

On June 23 2011 07:46 alexhard wrote:
Idra admits to throwing games on purpose:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GThEM3dNRLQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=355s

Is this acceptable? Should tournaments have rules against this?

There have been instances in FPS games for example where both teams are trying to lose the game, resulting in ridiculous situations...surely we want to avoid that?

On June 23 2011 08:25 mholden02 wrote:
Not playing Bomber or MC does tarnish the win. Im sorry, thats reality. The reason Thorzain got MASSIVE PROPS from winning TL3 was WHO HE BEAT. He beat EVERYONE.

Its not Huk's fault, but he did not beat the two best players. Its a fact.

On June 23 2011 08:29 MechKing wrote:
Gz huk and everything, but you have to wonder what would've happened if he had to play MC or Bomber. He beat Bischu, Lalush, Tarson, Fury and Moon in groups. That is NOT that hard of a group compared to others. Then he played vs. Predy, Socke and July. and then met Moon again in the finals. He played only two koreans and the same one twice. He definitely had probably the easiest road to the finals definitely.

On June 23 2011 08:32 Savern101 wrote:


Do people say that Nadal had an easy time because he had to beat Djockovic instead of Federer? Or that he only had to play Murray in the semi? This kind of thinking is ridiculous. MMA didn't have to play MC at MLG. Does it mean his win isn't as impressive? Don't try to take away a great win from Huk. He beat Moon twice(who was on really impressive form) and July! JULY! Moon beat Bomber, Huk beat Moon. Huk won, end of.

On June 23 2011 08:33 Mailing wrote:
Beating bomber/MC/idra/Naniwa would have made Huks run 10x better

Congrats on his big win though



Point?

Look at numerous GSL finals where players had easy brackets. Some players have made it to the top 4 of a GSL and are still considered mediocre because they just have sloppy games when you analyze them.

MVP has been out of the top of code S for a long time now and is still considered a much better player than Rain or even oGsTOP

huk played amazingly in Dreamhack but none of his opponents really played amazingly back to make the win impressive.

On June 23 2011 08:38 Savern101 wrote:


Its just unfair to Huk. He won, what more do you want from him? He can only play against whats in front of him, its not his fault if others fall/can't handle the pressure/whatever.

According to TLO he trains as hard if not harder than the Koreans, and thats clearly paid off.

And I really didn't use to be a Huk fan, he's just impressed me since managing to stay in Code S.

On June 23 2011 08:42 Mailing wrote:


"What more do you want from him"...?

Nothing. He already has his 15000$ and title and fame. Nobody can take that from him or wants to.

I am just saying it's stupid to use this example as a "white people > koreans" now or something like numerous people are attempting to do because Moon and july (both who have extremely low VsP results) lost to him.

On June 23 2011 08:45 Savern101 wrote:


I never claimed it meant that Foreigners are better than koreans. They're not (in general). I do think it shows that foreign players can compete however. People like Thorzain and Nani can look at the hard work that Huk has put in (and it has taken him a long time in Korea), and it will encourage them. The more foreigners compete with koreans and are competitive (even if not winnning) then its going to improve the quality of SC2 overall, which means more awesome games for us.

On June 23 2011 08:49 mholden02 wrote:
I don't understand why saying "Huk didn't beat the best players" is a slight against Huk personally. Its not.

Polt Prime just won SuperLeague, and nobody is all that enthused about it. He didn't beat MC, or MVP, or Bomber, or Nestea. So yeah he won, but we as fans expect you to beat the best to win championships. Polt didn't and Huk didn't.

Thats reality. Who you beat matters. Might not be fair, but life isn't fair.

On June 23 2011 09:09 lunchforthesky wrote:


Well let's be fair to Polt. Yeah he didn't beat the big three but he did beat:
Losira
MMA
Maka
Alicia
Huk
TOP

that's an infinitely harder bracket than:
Moon
Tarson
Lalush
Fury
Bisu
July
Predy
Socke.

It's not even comparable.