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asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
June 21 2011 13:52 GMT
#521
On June 21 2011 20:59 mitschi wrote:
Isn´t the Anit Team system kinda broken?
You can just pick only F.United players and after 5 weeks you can trade them for FXO players and you are guaranteed to get no negative points. Or am i missing something?

They rise in value the more matches they still have to play, and you can only trade one anti-team member per week.

By the way, can we have some feedback from experienced Fantasy Proleaguers? How top-heavy should you aim to be, how much can one earn from choosing the right 1-pointers early on, and should you spread your players' teams wide, or is it better to trade in line with the schedule?
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
Furycrab
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada456 Posts
June 21 2011 14:44 GMT
#522
On June 20 2011 15:36 Waxangel wrote:
I'm gonna enjoy it when we're a few seasons in, and the sub-game of "pick the lowest scoring team" emerges.



Haha... I think I was always competing for that... Unintentionally.
Too tired to come up with something witty.
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 15:02:01
June 21 2011 15:00 GMT
#523
On June 21 2011 21:21 thirnaz wrote:
For those picking MMA, do you really think he's worth it? He is good for the 9 pts but he wont be played alot, he just comes out when they really need him and thats not alot when they have players like Min, Alicia, Ryung, Ganzi and many other good players.


MMA is actually one of the most played person in GSTL from season 1-3 stats.

Edit: Though I agree that in future it might decline because then he was still a new talent but now he has won enough so I can see Slayers letting other players to play
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
June 21 2011 15:11 GMT
#524
I've completely redone my team now, focused a lot on strong, all-round players I believe will play a lot (I guess the points for playing will add up). I also tried to spread them fairly evenly amongst the teams, not bothering with teams I think will lose unless there is a really great player I want to have.
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
Furycrab
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada456 Posts
June 21 2011 15:11 GMT
#525
On June 20 2011 15:24 Waxangel wrote:
Word up, I'm not posting my team cuz... you know, I wanna win, and I can't give away any tips yo.

I'll say one hint though.

CHECK. THE. SCHEDULE.



Is something really going to be done about the obvious schedule problem with trading? Like giving FXO players a trade value of 1 if traded after the 5th week (1 if on the team, 20 if you are wanting to trade them into your anti-team)

I'd hate for the winner to go: Well I made sure none of my anti-team ever played.

Hint: F.U. Has some fairly expensive players that won't play for 5 weeks.
Too tired to come up with something witty.
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
June 21 2011 15:13 GMT
#526
On June 21 2011 18:55 bittman wrote:
Bit surprised so many people are going with Lyn and Moon in the anti-team. Any points they get count against you, that player being used is -1 point. Since F.United is basically 5 players, if they actually do fail, the best you can hope for is that they 0-4 all matches. Almost a guarantee that you'll get negatives somewhere if you go 2/5ths of a team.

They don't play a single match until Week 6, so most people will just trade them away before then

It's smart
MKP||TSL
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 15:17:58
June 21 2011 15:14 GMT
#527
On June 22 2011 00:11 Furycrab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 15:24 Waxangel wrote:
Word up, I'm not posting my team cuz... you know, I wanna win, and I can't give away any tips yo.

I'll say one hint though.

CHECK. THE. SCHEDULE.



Is something really going to be done about the obvious schedule problem with trading? Like giving FXO players a trade value of 1 if traded after the 5th week (1 if on the team, 20 if you are wanting to trade them into your anti-team)

I'd hate for the winner to go: Well I made sure none of my anti-team ever played.

Hint: F.U. Has some fairly expensive players that won't play for 5 weeks.

If you put three F.United players on your anti-team, they will rise in value, since they have all their matches left. If you want to trade them out, you'll have to switch them out for higher-value players who probably will perform well in the future and ruin your score. If you don't trade them out pretty much the same thing will happen unless they go 0-4 all the time. You can also only trade one player from your anti-team per week, so it's pretty pointless to put players you know are good (Moon, Thorzain, and Naniwa, for instance) on the anti-team.

I think the smartest thing to do is just to anti-vote people that you don't expect to be sent out all that often, but probably will play pretty badly when they do.
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
panda_inc
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia170 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 15:51:45
June 21 2011 15:17 GMT
#528
Terran OP

changed my mind for like the 100th time.
gonna go with 3 terran aces and 2 solid protoss and 3 rising players.

Main Team
9 (T)MMA (captain) -ace
7 (T)sC - ace
7 (T)aLive - ace
4 (P)Genius -best protoss on mvp, good player to boot
2 (P)Ace - solid protoss who gets fielded
1 (P)Hero -rising protoss player
1 (P)Creator -rising protoss player
1 (Z)BBoongBBoong - rising zerg on a team with no zergs


4 MVP - good value

Anti Team
4 (Z)Curious - prolly wont play
4 (P)InCa - only good at PvP, wont play much
5 (T)Lyn - wont play - bad player anyway
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
June 21 2011 15:24 GMT
#529
True Ferocity

Main Team
5 (P)Alicia
1 (Z)Cella
4 (Z)FruitDealer
5 (Z)July
2 (P)Lotze
8 (T)MarineKing (captain)
4 (T)NaDa
2 (P)Puzzle
5 Old GenerationS

Anti Team
5 (P)Killer
5 (T)Lyn
3 (T)RainBOw

I <3 MKP.

It's a bit generic and cliche, but I'm hoping it'll work. Gogo oGs.
Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 21 2011 15:28 GMT
#530
On June 22 2011 00:13 mikyaJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 18:55 bittman wrote:
Bit surprised so many people are going with Lyn and Moon in the anti-team. Any points they get count against you, that player being used is -1 point. Since F.United is basically 5 players, if they actually do fail, the best you can hope for is that they 0-4 all matches. Almost a guarantee that you'll get negatives somewhere if you go 2/5ths of a team.

They don't play a single match until Week 6, so most people will just trade them away before then

It's smart


The problem is the adjusting values based on games left. When lyn and moon start playing who will you trade for? Is trading the anti team like your normal team but the opposite? (meaning you have to trade for someone worth more points than who you currently have instead of less?) If that is true it will be interesting watching Moon and Lyn players try to find someone to pick up who costs more than -5, and then i assume values will decrease for the anti-team if you have less games left making it harder to reach the necessary 13 points.

But then again it may be worth it. Who knows?
two.watup
Profile Joined March 2011
United States371 Posts
June 21 2011 15:41 GMT
#531
Updated Statistics!

[image loading]

Now with a Picture!!

Sorry for no spoiler tag, but it wouldn't autoresize in the spoiler, if someone could help me out that'd be awesome :D
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33486 Posts
June 21 2011 15:44 GMT
#532
The lead-off entries for week one games have been announced. You guys might wanna fix your rosters to include these players. Check OP for the update!
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Fanta_Rules
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden669 Posts
June 21 2011 15:47 GMT
#533
Why is everyone picking Hero? I look at his stats and they're horrible. Have I missed something?
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
June 21 2011 15:54 GMT
#534
On June 22 2011 00:47 Fanta_Rules wrote:
Why is everyone picking Hero? I look at his stats and they're horrible. Have I missed something?


He is played in GSTL, at least previous seasons and just got qualified to Code A by beating DongRaeGu in the final match. Also he is 1 point so he has good cost/skill ratio and is considered to be a good up&coming player
Fanta_Rules
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden669 Posts
June 21 2011 15:56 GMT
#535
On June 22 2011 00:54 Piski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 00:47 Fanta_Rules wrote:
Why is everyone picking Hero? I look at his stats and they're horrible. Have I missed something?


He is played in GSTL, at least previous seasons and just got qualified to Code A by beating DongRaeGu in the final match. Also he is 1 point so he has good cost/skill ratio and is considered to be a good up&coming player

Ok, that explains it. Haven't stayed updated it seems. Thanks.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
June 21 2011 16:02 GMT
#536
On June 22 2011 00:44 Waxangel wrote:
The lead-off entries for week one games have been announced. You guys might wanna fix your rosters to include these players. Check OP for the update!

Thanks for the heads up. Ill do some theory crafting later for the teams. Already had QXC in mine, had Alica to start with but took him out. Might have to put him back in.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
June 21 2011 16:09 GMT
#537
On June 22 2011 00:54 Piski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 00:47 Fanta_Rules wrote:
Why is everyone picking Hero? I look at his stats and they're horrible. Have I missed something?


He is played in GSTL, at least previous seasons and just got qualified to Code A by beating DongRaeGu in the final match. Also he is 1 point so he has good cost/skill ratio and is considered to be a good up&coming player



Also huk said one time that Hero is a rising star. He does really well in pratice games. The only thing that he really needs is to work on nerves.
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
June 21 2011 16:11 GMT
#538
Fuck, I had finally decided on leaving Happy out, and now I probably have to put him in again. Will this puzzling never end?!
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
Furycrab
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada456 Posts
June 21 2011 16:18 GMT
#539
On June 22 2011 00:14 asperger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 00:11 Furycrab wrote:
On June 20 2011 15:24 Waxangel wrote:
Word up, I'm not posting my team cuz... you know, I wanna win, and I can't give away any tips yo.

I'll say one hint though.

CHECK. THE. SCHEDULE.



Is something really going to be done about the obvious schedule problem with trading? Like giving FXO players a trade value of 1 if traded after the 5th week (1 if on the team, 20 if you are wanting to trade them into your anti-team)

I'd hate for the winner to go: Well I made sure none of my anti-team ever played.

Hint: F.U. Has some fairly expensive players that won't play for 5 weeks.

If you put three F.United players on your anti-team, they will rise in value, since they have all their matches left. If you want to trade them out, you'll have to switch them out for higher-value players who probably will perform well in the future and ruin your score. If you don't trade them out pretty much the same thing will happen unless they go 0-4 all the time. You can also only trade one player from your anti-team per week, so it's pretty pointless to put players you know are good (Moon, Thorzain, and Naniwa, for instance) on the anti-team.

I think the smartest thing to do is just to anti-vote people that you don't expect to be sent out all that often, but probably will play pretty badly when they do.


I'm just wondering how much they will go up in value, and the opposite being also true, will players who are actually winning, but don't have many matches to go actually go down in value. I'm just doing this for fun, so I haven't really though it all out, but I can tell you that I have some players that if they don't rise too much in value before Week 4 will get traded for players who have played matches.
Too tired to come up with something witty.
Faxer
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark22 Posts
June 21 2011 16:24 GMT
#540
Team Ownage

Main Team
1 (Z)BBoongBBoong
5 (R)GuineaPig
4 (T)GuMiho
1 (P)Hero
6 (Z)Leenock
8 (Z)LosirA (captain)
5 (Z)Moon
2 (T)Taeja
4 Prime

Anti Team
4 (P)HongUn
5 (P)San
4 (P)Squirtle
Indersted of just Picking superstars and talents i decided to pick some great standard players.
all of the players i picked SHOULD be able to take down all either on same stage or below them.
Action is the foundational key to all success.
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