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asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
June 21 2011 16:37 GMT
#541
Pretty sick how this fantasy league already has 7k participants (compared to FPL's 1k)! It's going to be awesome!
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 17:13:28
June 21 2011 16:42 GMT
#542
Here is my team

.+ Show Spoiler +
Team not losing

Main Team
4 (T)Clide
1 (P)HuK
1 (T)Jinro
5 (Z)July
4 (Z)Line
4 (T)NaDa
8 (Z)NesTea (captain)
3 (T)Virus
6 SlayerS

Anti Team
3 (Z)Kyrix
5 (T)Lyn
5 (Z)Moon



Huk and Jinro have both done extremely well in past GSL's and do well otside of Korea. Both being highly cost efficent. Though I might change out Jinro for Hero or even Puzzle.

Line I chose almost instantly because he does really well, even going extremely far in the super tournament. He is possible one fo the best Zerg's in GSL.

Clide and NaDa I pciked up for being consitent. I don't see them all=likking a team, but I see them taking 1 or 2 kills before being knocked out.

I also picked up July and NesTas for reason I shouldn't have to explain. They are both great zerg's. Both play at the highest levels and peform as good as GSL winners. I see july and Nestea getting a couple all kills between them.

I also got virus because in seeing him play, he does pretty well. He is not the best out there. But he does well enough to auctally warrant him being on my team.



On my anti team I put moon and lyn. This is a pretty clear choice to put moon on their at least. I don't see moon doing will in Korea. He does extremely well outside of Korea but inside he is pretty poor player. I put lyn because I see him being taken out easily by average players in matches. He is good, but will be the Ace of f. united. Which means he will be sniped all the time.

and kyrix is another easy one. Everybody knows his style. He doesn't have much up his sleeve, so I think he will easily lose %75 of his matches
Fanta_Rules
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden669 Posts
June 21 2011 16:53 GMT
#543
Dreamhuk

Main Team
9 (T)Bomber
1 (P)Hero
1 (P)HuK (captain)
1 (T)IMHappy
9 (P)MC
8 (Z)NesTea
1 (T)Nuclear
1 (P)Tiger
4 Prime

Anti Team
5 (P)Killer
5 (P)San
3 (T)Virus

Of course SlayerS is a more solid pick than Prime, but then I would have had to settle with lesser players. God, it's so hard to decide. Feedback?
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 17:00:10
June 21 2011 16:59 GMT
#544
You shuldn't put too much Top(point heavy) players at your team, since they are aces, they won't get more than 2 kills too often, and you can afford more mid tier players who actually gets to play more.

Tiger never played anywhere else other than Code A qualifiers, you should trade him, and nuclear isn't that good.Happy is pretty hyped from IM's coach, so you should keep him.

edit:typo.
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
June 21 2011 17:03 GMT
#545
On June 22 2011 01:59 antilyon wrote:
You shuldn't put too much Top(point heavy) players at your team, since they are aces, they won't get more than 2 kills too often, and you can afford more mid tier players who actually gets to play more.

Tiger never played anywhere else other than Code A qualifiers, you should trade him, and nuclear isn't that good.Happy is pretty hyped from IM's coach, so you should keep him.

edit:typo.

Tiger is confirmed to play first for StarTale this week, though.
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
alda
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France68 Posts
June 21 2011 17:05 GMT
#546
On June 22 2011 01:59 antilyon wrote:

Tiger never played anywhere else other than Code A qualifiers, you should trade him, and nuclear isn't that good.Happy is pretty hyped from IM's coach, so you should keep him.



They are at least guaranteed to play the first day. Check the op.

On this subject, why did GOM had to reveal the starters ? I spend lot of time trying to figure a good team and now I'll have to redo it again !
aka FallinSky
Fanta_Rules
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden669 Posts
June 21 2011 17:09 GMT
#547
On June 22 2011 01:59 antilyon wrote:
You shuldn't put too much Top(point heavy) players at your team, since they are aces, they won't get more than 2 kills too often, and you can afford more mid tier players who actually gets to play more.

Tiger never played anywhere else other than Code A qualifiers, you should trade him, and nuclear isn't that good.Happy is pretty hyped from IM's coach, so you should keep him.

edit:typo.

Like above posters said, 3 of my 4 low tier players have been confirmed to play. And about the ace players... sure, they might not get to play that much in every match, but when they do, they will probably win. Plus, they get bonus points for taking out strong players who have taken out more than one on the other team.
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 21 2011 17:10 GMT
#548
On June 22 2011 02:05 alda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 01:59 antilyon wrote:

Tiger never played anywhere else other than Code A qualifiers, you should trade him, and nuclear isn't that good.Happy is pretty hyped from IM's coach, so you should keep him.



They are at least guaranteed to play the first day. Check the op.

On this subject, why did GOM had to reveal the starters ? I spend lot of time trying to figure a good team and now I'll have to redo it again !


Why?

afterall all the players are pretty much sure to play at some point. It is just for the easy points?
sihyunie
Profile Joined June 2008
United States108 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 17:49:04
June 21 2011 17:11 GMT
#549
Main Team
5 (P)Alicia
8 (Z)DongRaeGu (captain)
1 (T)IMHappy
7 (T)sC
1 (P)Smart
2 (P)Tassadar
2 (T)TheStC
4 (T)ThorZaIN
5 Old GenerationS

Anti Team
4 (T)Clide
5 (T)GanZi
4 (P)Genius
+ Show Spoiler +

Main Team
5 (P)Alicia
Slayers will play MMA and Alicia quite often. While they will likely save MMA as their ace, Alicia is very likely to be the first or 2nd player. That gives him a lot of chances to rack up some wins
8 (Z)DongRaeGu (captain)
My captain! I consider him the 2nd best zerg in the world right behind Nestea. He's by far the best player on MVP and will see far more play than Nestea, thus my choice.
1 (T)IMHappy
Very underrated player IMO. At 1 point, I think he's better choice over most other protosses
7 (T)sC
What can you go wrong with sC. sC and leenock are basically the entire FOu team. They will basically see play every time and will rack up a lot of wins. I like sC better since he's terran.
1 (P)Smart
Along with Happy, another underrated protoss.TSL has Trickster and Killer, but I can see them play Smart (JYP) more to get him experience. He beat MarineKing and Leenock before losing to DongRaeGu, taking 3rd place in the recent Special Tournament in Korea.
2 (P)Tassadar
My pick for breakout player this GSTL. NS HoSeo really doesn't have a lot of players, so they will heavily rely on select few. He's been doing very well on ladder for quite some time, and I think the time is right for him to become HoSeo's ace.
2 (T)TheStC
He just finished his military service and may take a while for him to get back in shape, but this Beta favorite is smart and very skilled. You think MMA's TvZ medivac harass was insane, StC has been doing that since beta. At 2 points, he's very much worth it.
4 (T)ThorZaIN
Throzain and Naniwa will see heavy play since F United has only 5 players. In the current metagame, Terran is by far the best race IMO, so I picked Thorzain over Naniwa.
5 Old GenerationS
It's about time oGs wins GSTL. They have the deepest roster in my opinion, and they have a weapon at every race. Their terran line up is deep, which is always a good sign, and their best player is MC. Enough said.

Anti Team
4 (T)Clide
TSL terran who I think is quite overrated. TSL will have to play him since they don't really have a deep lineup, but I don't really foresee him winning very much in now very deep Korean player pool
5 (T)GanZi
A former Woonjin Terran. If you know anything about BW scene, that should be a enough reason.
4 (P)Genius
Genius hasn't really performed well, and may not even see play since MVP has decent depth.

I think overall, a good balanced team. Good mix of sure players and underrated players with potential break out season. As a zerg player, it's sad to see only one zerg, but I really think there is a huge gap between top few zergs and rest of the field, and I can't really afford them all, especially when there are so many good terrans at the top. If I could, I'd try to put Bomber or MMA, but DRG and sC will probably play a lot more games just because of the teams they are on.
Fanta_Rules
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden669 Posts
June 21 2011 17:17 GMT
#550
On June 22 2011 02:10 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 02:05 alda wrote:
On June 22 2011 01:59 antilyon wrote:

Tiger never played anywhere else other than Code A qualifiers, you should trade him, and nuclear isn't that good.Happy is pretty hyped from IM's coach, so you should keep him.



They are at least guaranteed to play the first day. Check the op.

On this subject, why did GOM had to reveal the starters ? I spend lot of time trying to figure a good team and now I'll have to redo it again !


Why?

afterall all the players are pretty much sure to play at some point. It is just for the easy points?

From OP:

On June 20 2011 15:22 darmousseh wrote:
WEEK ONE LEAD-OFF PLAYERS ANNOUNCED
+ Show Spoiler +
From GomTV.com
Slayers vs MVP
Slayers: Alicia
MVP: Noblesse

FXO vs Startale
FXO: qxc
Startale: Tiger

fOu vs IM
fOu: asd
IM: Happy
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 17:21:33
June 21 2011 17:20 GMT
#551
On June 22 2011 02:11 sihyunie wrote:
Anti Team
7 (T)aLive
4 (T)Clide
2 TSL terrans who I think are quite overrated. TSL will have to play them since they don't really have a deep lineup, but I don't really foresee them winning very much in now very deep Korean player pool
5 (T)GanZi
A former Woonjin Terran. If you know anything about BW scene, that should be a enough reason.

Shouldn't you try to choose a 4-pointer instead of aLive? You're well over 13 points, and since he's sure to be played you might wanna switch him out for someone who isn't.

But concerning the anti-teams, don't we get points when they lose? As it looks now, it will be a lot more practical to put people who are unlikely to play on your anti-team, instead of choosing popular players you think will lose (and gain points when they do so).
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 21 2011 17:20 GMT
#552
On June 22 2011 02:17 Fanta_Rules wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 02:10 masterbreti wrote:
On June 22 2011 02:05 alda wrote:
On June 22 2011 01:59 antilyon wrote:

Tiger never played anywhere else other than Code A qualifiers, you should trade him, and nuclear isn't that good.Happy is pretty hyped from IM's coach, so you should keep him.



They are at least guaranteed to play the first day. Check the op.

On this subject, why did GOM had to reveal the starters ? I spend lot of time trying to figure a good team and now I'll have to redo it again !


Why?

afterall all the players are pretty much sure to play at some point. It is just for the easy points?

From OP:

Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 15:22 darmousseh wrote:
WEEK ONE LEAD-OFF PLAYERS ANNOUNCED
+ Show Spoiler +
From GomTV.com
Slayers vs MVP
Slayers: Alicia
MVP: Noblesse

FXO vs Startale
FXO: qxc
Startale: Tiger

fOu vs IM
fOu: asd
IM: Happy

I get that.
i am just wondering why you should switch your team. It is to get the player more likely to win for easy points?
Fanta_Rules
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden669 Posts
June 21 2011 17:24 GMT
#553
On June 22 2011 02:20 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 02:17 Fanta_Rules wrote:
On June 22 2011 02:10 masterbreti wrote:
On June 22 2011 02:05 alda wrote:
On June 22 2011 01:59 antilyon wrote:

Tiger never played anywhere else other than Code A qualifiers, you should trade him, and nuclear isn't that good.Happy is pretty hyped from IM's coach, so you should keep him.



They are at least guaranteed to play the first day. Check the op.

On this subject, why did GOM had to reveal the starters ? I spend lot of time trying to figure a good team and now I'll have to redo it again !


Why?

afterall all the players are pretty much sure to play at some point. It is just for the easy points?

From OP:

On June 20 2011 15:22 darmousseh wrote:
WEEK ONE LEAD-OFF PLAYERS ANNOUNCED
+ Show Spoiler +
From GomTV.com
Slayers vs MVP
Slayers: Alicia
MVP: Noblesse

FXO vs Startale
FXO: qxc
Startale: Tiger

fOu vs IM
fOu: asd
IM: Happy

I get that.
i am just wondering why you should switch your team. It is to get the player more likely to win for easy points?

Sorry, I misread.

The fact that they'll be playing also means that their team have faith in them. And if they win, the one point you put on them will have been well spent.
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
June 21 2011 17:24 GMT
#554
On June 22 2011 02:20 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 02:17 Fanta_Rules wrote:
On June 22 2011 02:10 masterbreti wrote:
On June 22 2011 02:05 alda wrote:
On June 22 2011 01:59 antilyon wrote:

Tiger never played anywhere else other than Code A qualifiers, you should trade him, and nuclear isn't that good.Happy is pretty hyped from IM's coach, so you should keep him.



They are at least guaranteed to play the first day. Check the op.

On this subject, why did GOM had to reveal the starters ? I spend lot of time trying to figure a good team and now I'll have to redo it again !


Why?

afterall all the players are pretty much sure to play at some point. It is just for the easy points?

From OP:

On June 20 2011 15:22 darmousseh wrote:
WEEK ONE LEAD-OFF PLAYERS ANNOUNCED
+ Show Spoiler +
From GomTV.com
Slayers vs MVP
Slayers: Alicia
MVP: Noblesse

FXO vs Startale
FXO: qxc
Startale: Tiger

fOu vs IM
fOu: asd
IM: Happy

I get that.
i am just wondering why you should switch your team. It is to get the player more likely to win for easy points?

Knowing that your player will show up is a great way of assuring a point. I think you should combine this with your previous thinking though. For example, I had Happy on my team for a while, since he has qualified for Code A etc., and now I put him back, since I actually know he'll play. However, I wouldn't try to fill my teams with every lead-off, as it is quite a big gamble. If it turns out Tiger is hopeless it will cost you 1 point to switch him out for another 1-pointer.
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
alda
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France68 Posts
June 21 2011 17:26 GMT
#555
On June 22 2011 02:20 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 02:17 Fanta_Rules wrote:
On June 22 2011 02:10 masterbreti wrote:
On June 22 2011 02:05 alda wrote:
On June 22 2011 01:59 antilyon wrote:

Tiger never played anywhere else other than Code A qualifiers, you should trade him, and nuclear isn't that good.Happy is pretty hyped from IM's coach, so you should keep him.



They are at least guaranteed to play the first day. Check the op.

On this subject, why did GOM had to reveal the starters ? I spend lot of time trying to figure a good team and now I'll have to redo it again !


Why?

afterall all the players are pretty much sure to play at some point. It is just for the easy points?

From OP:

On June 20 2011 15:22 darmousseh wrote:
WEEK ONE LEAD-OFF PLAYERS ANNOUNCED
+ Show Spoiler +
From GomTV.com
Slayers vs MVP
Slayers: Alicia
MVP: Noblesse

FXO vs Startale
FXO: qxc
Startale: Tiger

fOu vs IM
fOu: asd
IM: Happy

I get that.
i am just wondering why you should switch your team. It is to get the player more likely to win for easy points?


It's also the information that these players are considered good enough by their teams to be picked in a match, and we can guess they will possibly play in some other matches. Not saying that you should automatically try to get all of them but this information should be considered when making a team. For example about Happy and Nuclear/asd, I already heard some good things about them and that really makes me want to have them now (though it depends on some other choices so I'm still not definitive about them).
aka FallinSky
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
June 21 2011 17:28 GMT
#556
I know I'm going to be nowhere near winning, but I couldn't help but make a pure foreigners team xD.

+ Show Spoiler +

1 - (OGS) Huk (Captain)
4 - (F.U) Naniwa
4 - (F.U) ThorZain
3 - (FXO) Sheth
1 - (OGS) Jinro
2 - (FXO) Qxc
2 - (FXO) Moonan
3 - (FXO) Twilight [okay fine, I'm cheating a little because Twilight's a korean player, but he's on FXO and I needed another slot xD]



Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
NoobieOne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1183 Posts
June 21 2011 17:28 GMT
#557
my team
Team Noobie

Main Team
5 (R)GuineaPig
4 (P)InCa
9 (T)MMA (captain)
5 (Z)Moon
2 (T)Qxc
3 (Z)Sheth
1 (P)SocceR
2 (Z)ViOlet
5 Old GenerationS

Anti Team
2 (T)BoxeR
4 (T)NaDa
7 (T)sC

I think all the players in the Main team are pretty good. FXO and F.U don't have many players so all of those are likely to play and might get wins. QXC and Sheth for 2 and 3 points is insanely low for players with their skill.

For the Anti Team yes i know its insane to put BoxeR or NaDa there but have either of them ever played GSTL? also SC is probably the worst Ace of any team so he won't get many points at all I think.
sihyunie
Profile Joined June 2008
United States108 Posts
June 21 2011 17:32 GMT
#558
On June 22 2011 02:20 asperger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 02:11 sihyunie wrote:
Anti Team
7 (T)aLive
4 (T)Clide
2 TSL terrans who I think are quite overrated. TSL will have to play them since they don't really have a deep lineup, but I don't really foresee them winning very much in now very deep Korean player pool
5 (T)GanZi
A former Woonjin Terran. If you know anything about BW scene, that should be a enough reason.

Shouldn't you try to choose a 4-pointer instead of aLive? You're well over 13 points, and since he's sure to be played you might wanna switch him out for someone who isn't.

But concerning the anti-teams, don't we get points when they lose? As it looks now, it will be a lot more practical to put people who are unlikely to play on your anti-team, instead of choosing popular players you think will lose (and gain points when they do so).


Oh, I must be misunderstanding how scoring works for anti-team. Your strategy is probably a better one then.
Rinnegan5
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands319 Posts
June 21 2011 17:39 GMT
#559
ChoboMaestro

Main Team
8 (Z)DongRaeGu (captain)
1 (P)HuK
5 (Z)July
4 (T)NaDa
8 (T)Polt
2 (T)Taeja
2 (Z)ViOlet
3 (P)Younghwa
3 Team SCV Life

Anti Team
3 (P)Anypro
5 (P)San
5 (Z)Zenio

Changed my team a little. I put in Huk instead of Fruitdealer. I have a feeling Huk is gonna be the Zerg sniper since he took out both STJuly and Moon at dreamhack plus his convidence is through the roof. Changed my Team to TSL. A team loaded with Code S players will pick up wins at some point The rest is the same
graan
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany589 Posts
June 21 2011 17:39 GMT
#560
Mhhh, cant decide if moon is a good choice or not, i see only moon & lyn on their rooster and naniwa & throzain playing for them.. only these four for them in the team league ?
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