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IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
June 18 2011 05:46 GMT
#121
On June 18 2011 06:49 Widz wrote:
Why is it that people getting more and more mental illnesses the safer and more caring the society gets? It s more people then ever that get panic attacks. Before the 1970s there almost didn't exist any eating disorders or people who hurt them self (like cutting themselves on the arms).

It s like the safer it gets to travel or just going out on the town the more people are afraid of it. I don´t get it.


You are simply dead wrong. This is a really bad post. The first paragraph is laughable, especially the seemingly arbitrary "1970s" thrown out.

Did you see Chill's request that people specifically don't come into this thread and say "I don't get it"? Look at your last sentence. The fact that you "don't get it" does not change the fact that it's a reality for millions of people.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
June 18 2011 05:53 GMT
#122
On June 18 2011 01:08 VPCursed wrote:
I had a panic attack in NYC so i can relate.. its not fun.


can you tell us why you had a panic attack? were you lost and thought that you would never find your way back home?


I feel bad for demuslim and I hope he can play next time.

Concerning people with demuslim's phobia; wouldn't this phobia be remedied by taking friends along the way so that he is not alone?
Jim7
Profile Joined December 2010
United States154 Posts
June 18 2011 05:54 GMT
#123
Maybe look into cognitive behavioral therapy. Along with therapy and with or without medication it could help a ton.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
June 18 2011 05:54 GMT
#124
On June 18 2011 06:49 Widz wrote:
Why is it that people getting more and more mental illnesses the safer and more caring the society gets? It s more people then ever that get panic attacks. Before the 1970s there almost didn't exist any eating disorders or people who hurt them self (like cutting themselves on the arms).

It s like the safer it gets to travel or just going out on the town the more people are afraid of it. I don´t get it.


one reason it might seem like there are more cases of such ailments is due to the fact that these cases are simply reported at a greater frequency and documented than during the past.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
June 18 2011 05:57 GMT
#125
Oh that is sad news, was expecting to hear a lot about him this weekend.
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
June 18 2011 05:58 GMT
#126
Aw man. I feel sorry for him. Quite unfortunate
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Jim7
Profile Joined December 2010
United States154 Posts
June 18 2011 06:02 GMT
#127
On June 18 2011 14:53 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 01:08 VPCursed wrote:
I had a panic attack in NYC so i can relate.. its not fun.


can you tell us why you had a panic attack? were you lost and thought that you would never find your way back home?


I feel bad for demuslim and I hope he can play next time.

Concerning people with demuslim's phobia; wouldn't this phobia be remedied by taking friends along the way so that he is not alone?


I think just the idea of not having someone there to meet him is what triggers the anxiety/panic. That feeling of being stuck at the airport alone like he was as a kid. Friends going along might help but probably just not possible for any number of reasons.
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
June 18 2011 06:04 GMT
#128
On June 18 2011 14:54 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 06:49 Widz wrote:
Why is it that people getting more and more mental illnesses the safer and more caring the society gets? It s more people then ever that get panic attacks. Before the 1970s there almost didn't exist any eating disorders or people who hurt them self (like cutting themselves on the arms).

It s like the safer it gets to travel or just going out on the town the more people are afraid of it. I don´t get it.


one reason it might seem like there are more cases of such ailments is due to the fact that these cases are simply reported at a greater frequency and documented than during the past.


Exactly. It's a matter of awareness and documentation.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
Jacobs Ladder
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1705 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 06:16:38
June 18 2011 06:10 GMT
#129
On June 18 2011 06:49 Widz wrote:
Why is it that people getting more and more mental illnesses the safer and more caring the society gets? It s more people then ever that get panic attacks. Before the 1970s there almost didn't exist any eating disorders or people who hurt them self (like cutting themselves on the arms).

It s like the safer it gets to travel or just going out on the town the more people are afraid of it. I don´t get it.

Comments like this crack me up. Depression and anxiety existed in the 70s. I have 3 grandparents who dealt with clinical depression. Its just society was less open about it so they dealt with it differently (two were alcoholics, one tried to commit suicide.)

Also, as someone with a fairly mild anxiety disorder, I would invite you to not talk about what you clearly do not understand.

Edit: But more to the point, best wishes to Demuslim. Here's hoping you can make it out to your next event.
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
June 18 2011 06:12 GMT
#130
Anxiety is awful on top of the pressure to perform. Good fortune DeMuslim
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Jim7
Profile Joined December 2010
United States154 Posts
June 18 2011 06:26 GMT
#131
Keep in mind that just because he has panic attacks traveling doesn't mean he has them while playing. They can be totally separate.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
June 18 2011 06:28 GMT
#132
Am I the only one that thinks this was absolutely adorable? It's not everyday that a pro-gamer shows their vulnerable side to the public like this. If EG weren't my favorite team before, it certainly is now.
Thank God and gunrun.
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
June 18 2011 06:36 GMT
#133
Not only do I feel bad for DeMuslim because I know he loves this game but DH and the viewers lose out on some great games too. Hope to see you doing well soon in the FXO open!
Omnipresent
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States871 Posts
June 18 2011 06:43 GMT
#134
On June 18 2011 14:11 DaemonX wrote:
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On June 18 2011 07:24 DDAngelo wrote:
Man I had a panic attack the first and second times I sparred in muay thai and it was pretty much the worst thing ever, my chest felt extremely tight, my legs were shaking, I was lightheaded from hyperventilating and I broke down in tears right in the middle of the class. Shame on anyone saying DeMuslim should just get over it or implying he is mentally weak for being a victim of panic attacks. I am sure that he is mature enough to rationalize he is safe while traveling (just like I rationalize that I was safe while sparring), but reason and logic arent enough to prevent a panic attack. How about some sympathy for the poor guy, his condition has caused him to miss a major tournament.

Look I'm disappointed as a fan. But really, this is an elite sport, and mental incapacity is not an excuse. It just means he will never be a top player, no matter his crazy talent, just like physical incapacity prevents some heroic men and women from winning olympic gold. There's no shame in stating this truth - it doesn't reflect badly on DeMu as a person.

But yes, the simple fact is he needs to 'suck it up' and 'get over it', or he just won't ever be where he could/might be as a player. If the condition is severe enough that this is simply not an option, I am sad, but that's the way it is.

It's the same as IdrA, whose mental issues are damaging his career too. He threw away what I personally believe would have been 2nd place at MLG due to a negative mental state. Like DeMu, he will either get over it or he will retire having never achieved his potential.

Panic attack are a lot like migraines. You don't really understand them until you know someone who struggles with them (or experience them yourself). It seems like something you can just power through, but it isn't.

"Suck it up" isn't really a reasonable idea. He'll either have to find ways to travel that he's comfortable with (traveling with friends, etc.) or get some kind of treatment (cognitive behavioral therapy or drugs). It's a really tough situation.
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
June 18 2011 06:53 GMT
#135
On June 18 2011 03:01 Devolved wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 02:43 Davidxcom wrote:

Even if people know that their fear is irrational there is no way that you can make it go away just with thinking about it rationally.


Why not? The only thing a psychologist does is make you think of things in a different way than you're used to thinking about them (and pump you full of drugs to make their job easier). If you're irrationally afraid of something then it seems to me the best way to quell your fear is to think about it rationally and then you realize there is nothing to be afraid of. "There is nothing to fear but fear itself."


This might be the most ignorant post I've ever read on TL. Trying to solve an emotional issue with logic and mistaking psychology for psychiatry. Amazing. Next up, a speaking tour of Africa where you tell starving rape victims to "cheer up because being sad won't help you".
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
June 18 2011 06:57 GMT
#136
My god there are a lot of ignorant people in this thread. If you've never had a real panic attack, please don't post about how to deal with it. According to wikipedia a lot of people who have their first panic attack think they are having a heart attack and/or go to the emergency room. It is not a "mental state," it's a feeling of absolute horrible panic. Imagine watching your family get raped in front of you. Imagine getting a phonecall that your wife was killed by a drunk driver and your little girl is in the intensive care unit and may or may not make it: you get in a car and start driving to the hospital, but it's a 30 minute drive. Imagine the emotions running through you - that's a panic attack. You don't "suck it up," you don't try to out-think emotions, you just have to deal with it and find a way to avoid it. You don't understand what it feels like until it happens, though.
Mattes
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1116 Posts
June 18 2011 07:23 GMT
#137
Dont worry, i still love you.
"Eyo lesson' here, Bey. You're comin' at the king, you best not miss."
piskooooo
Profile Joined November 2008
United States351 Posts
June 18 2011 07:25 GMT
#138
Anxiety in general is fucking horrible. I had it really bad in high school along with migraines and ended up having to quit. I wasn't even bullied or anything, I actually had a lot of friends. It just randomly happened one day and kept getting worse every day after. I got over it now because I was forced to (my dad made me learn to deal with it lol), but I know how shitty it is. Hopefully he just slowly learns to deal with it and doesn't resort to taking meds because they fuck your brain up and when he eventually stops taking them the anxiety will still be there. Spending all you time at your computer doesn't help either.
<3 MKP
Alokiya
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States648 Posts
June 18 2011 07:29 GMT
#139
On June 18 2011 15:57 cz wrote:
My god there are a lot of ignorant people in this thread. If you've never had a real panic attack, please don't post about how to deal with it. According to wikipedia a lot of people who have their first panic attack think they are having a heart attack and/or go to the emergency room. It is not a "mental state," it's a feeling of absolute horrible panic. Imagine watching your family get raped in front of you. Imagine getting a phonecall that your wife was killed by a drunk driver and your little girl is in the intensive care unit and may or may not make it: you get in a car and start driving to the hospital, but it's a 30 minute drive. Imagine the emotions running through you - that's a panic attack. You don't "suck it up," you don't try to out-think emotions, you just have to deal with it and find a way to avoid it. You don't understand what it feels like until it happens, though.



The line about it feeling like a heart attack is completely true, when I had my first panic attack, I immediately thought I was having a heart attack, and the anxiety was exasperated by being home alone at 5 am when it happened. I had to go to the ER for 3 hours while they ran every test imaginable to make sure I was ok.

Demuslim, I know how shitty it is, it sucks you can't go to dreamhack, but good luck with everything else. Plus, you're hot as hell, it's impossible not to be a fan.
C'mon my guppies, swim up my stream! - Day[9]
Helicopter
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada39 Posts
June 18 2011 07:58 GMT
#140
What the fuck is wrong with that guy; the chances of dying on an airplane are extremely slim and there are many things more dangerous that we do in our everyday lives. What a pusswad.

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