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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
 what a shame ... I was looking forward to seeing him play after how he played in Columbus.I would have said why can't his teammates, idra and machine, meet him at the airport but that is honestly a burden that doesn't need to be placed on either of them. Hopefully he can get over his fear and won't have panic attacks in the future. | ||
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Indrium
United States2236 Posts
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
On June 18 2011 16:58 Helicopter wrote: What the fuck is wrong with that guy; the chances of dying on an airplane are extremely slim and there are many things more dangerous that we do in our everyday lives. What a pusswad. User was temp banned for this post. man you are lucky for being TEMP banned. does EG have anything to say about this? | ||
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coddan
Estonia890 Posts
On June 18 2011 14:11 DaemonX wrote: Look I'm disappointed as a fan. But really, this is an elite sport, and mental incapacity is not an excuse. It just means he will never be a top player, no matter his crazy talent, just like physical incapacity prevents some heroic men and women from winning olympic gold. There's no shame in stating this truth - it doesn't reflect badly on DeMu as a person. But yes, the simple fact is he needs to 'suck it up' and 'get over it', or he just won't ever be where he could/might be as a player. If the condition is severe enough that this is simply not an option, I am sad, but that's the way it is. It's the same as IdrA, whose mental issues are damaging his career too. He threw away what I personally believe would have been 2nd place at MLG due to a negative mental state. Like DeMu, he will either get over it or he will retire having never achieved his potential. You have no idea what you are talking about. Mental issues are real illnesses. You don't "suck it up and get over it" any more than you break your arm or get cancer and suck it up and get over it. You need treatment, and I would imagine the last thing people want to hear is pricks like you pass judgment on something they have absolutely no knowledge about. To even compare having panic attacks to Idra having a poor attitude is so fucking ignorant I want to punch a wall. | ||
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iLLusive
United States274 Posts
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IPS.Mardow.
Germany713 Posts
On June 18 2011 14:11 DaemonX wrote: Look I'm disappointed as a fan. But really, this is an elite sport, and mental incapacity is not an excuse. It just means he will never be a top player, no matter his crazy talent, just like physical incapacity prevents some heroic men and women from winning olympic gold. There's no shame in stating this truth - it doesn't reflect badly on DeMu as a person. But yes, the simple fact is he needs to 'suck it up' and 'get over it', or he just won't ever be where he could/might be as a player. If the condition is severe enough that this is simply not an option, I am sad, but that's the way it is. It's the same as IdrA, whose mental issues are damaging his career too. He threw away what I personally believe would have been 2nd place at MLG due to a negative mental state. Like DeMu, he will either get over it or he will retire having never achieved his potential. Rofl, and you call yourself a fan of DeMuslim. What a bad fan who can't understand demuslims decision. Srsly, so many bitches in the internet who have no idea what they're talking. As far as I know that's the first tournament demuslim leaves out because of his panic attacks. And you already talk about retirement, just lol. | ||
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S.O.L.I.D.
United States792 Posts
. I can understand his decision though. All of you ignorant people spouting random shit about how he should 'suck it up' need to shut up right now, because if it were that simple he obviously would've fucking done it. | ||
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Johnnybb
Denmark486 Posts
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WarSong
Canada126 Posts
thanks for sharing something so personal with your fans, as i'm sure it wasn't easy. | ||
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Alexl
288 Posts
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DKR
United Kingdom622 Posts
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DaemonX
545 Posts
On June 18 2011 20:50 IPS.Mardow. wrote: But it's a pretty serious occurrence, and there's a pattern here. He was on top of the ladders...then broke his arm horribly. Then just as he recovers....does it again. Then he's on absolute FIRE leading up to MLG...then bombs out completely. Then he misses the biggest tournament outside of Korea. If I was his team, I'd start to be concerned. Rofl, and you call yourself a fan of DeMuslim. What a bad fan who can't understand demuslims decision. Srsly, so many bitches in the internet who have no idea what they're talking. As far as I know that's the first tournament demuslim leaves out because of his panic attacks. And you already talk about retirement, just lol. Look, I am aware panic can be pretty bad - my gf suffered from them. But like all mental conditions, it varies in severity greatly person to person. There is no fixed etiology or prognosis. So all I am saying is, since there isn't really a consistent, viable treatment available that would not further impair his playing ability, he will have to learn to tough it out. Or it will be too severe for that, and we'll just not see him succeed. I have great empathy for him at a personal level. But for a professional player there is no room for compassion of circumstance at a tournament level. You either have what it takes or you do not, and a some of the sympathy in this thread blurs that line between supporting the man and making excuses for the player. | ||
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DaemonX
545 Posts
On June 18 2011 20:19 coddan wrote: You have no idea what you are talking about. Mental issues are real illnesses. You don't "suck it up and get over it" any more than you break your arm or get cancer and suck it up and get over it. You need treatment, and I would imagine the last thing people want to hear is pricks like you pass judgment on something they have absolutely no knowledge about. To even compare having panic attacks to Idra having a poor attitude is so fucking ignorant I want to punch a wall. Actually, as fan of e-sports, it's pretty reasonable for me to pass judgement on a player's chances of future success. Sorry if that makes me a prick, but that's what thousands of other fans do every day in every other sport. Just because it's due to an unforunate personal circumstance doesn't change the fact that he's really not making it happen. SC2 has only been out a year, and he's missed 50% of that due to...stuff. Of course he possibly can't get over it. If he can, good on him, I hope he then makes his totally freakin' amazing potential come to something. I've followed him since beta, and the kid is a genius at builds and developing play styles. If he can't, then I hope he manages to deal with it and succeed in life, but it won't be as a professional starcraft player. Maybe as a coach or caster/ And the comparison to IdrA is was to highlight how a very very minor mental issue (IdrA's lack of emotional control) can blight your chances success, so what would a major condition or instability do for it, long term? Sorry if it's a confronting way of looking at it, but I was a sponsor that would be the discussion going on in the offices behind closed doors. | ||
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zanmat0
188 Posts
It's a shame most TLers have a difficult time facing the truth. | ||
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abelian
19 Posts
On June 19 2011 03:41 zanmat0 wrote: He needs to get his shit together if he wants to have any future success. Period. It's a shame most TLers have a difficult time facing the truth. Given Dennis Bergkamp, one of the greatest footballer's of all time, refused to fly because of a fear of flying and had an incredibly successful career - I imagine Ben will be just fine. | ||
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Kerotan
England2109 Posts
The responses in this thread are infuriating, I'm towing mardow's line here, this is the first time he has missed an event due to panic attacks, and there are people acting like he consistently fails to turn up for anything. To those that call themselves fans, the test of your fandom isn't when your man is crushing skulls left and right, but when he is down and out. Competition is a struggle, a constant shit getting together contest, if you want to support Ben, send him a message cheering him on, rather than acting like you put money on him. I admire Demuslim for coming out and telling the full story, rather than just saying something like "unforeseen circumstances". TLDR Just be nice, because no one cares if you act like a prick. | ||
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eiger
Belgium98 Posts
On June 19 2011 03:41 zanmat0 wrote: He needs to get his shit together if he wants to have any future success. Period. It's a shame most TLers have a difficult time facing the truth. He's man enough to admit it, and man enough to commentate in front of thousands of people Your contribution is.. this comment? surprisingly, bitter nerd comments aren't going to make him "get his shit together" jesus christ.. some posters here. | ||
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abelian
19 Posts
On June 19 2011 03:41 zanmat0 wrote: jesus christ.. some posters here..,,, Are incredibly ignorant. It's exactly the same as telling a soldier to just "get over" ptsd, can't believe some of the responses. | ||
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zanmat0
188 Posts
On June 19 2011 03:44 abelian wrote: Given Dennis Bergkamp, one of the greatest footballer's of all time, refused to fly because of a fear of flying and had an incredibly successful career - I imagine Ben will be just fine. Oh wow one totally unrelated example. I am put in my place. | ||
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zanmat0
188 Posts
On June 19 2011 04:01 eiger wrote: He's man enough to admit it, and man enough to commentate in front of thousands of people How does this help his career? Nice try totally evading the subject. Who cares what he admits, admitting things doesn't help him become a better and more successful player. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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