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phisku
Belgium864 Posts
On June 14 2011 23:34 Cel.erity wrote: Worst GSL finals ever? Have you seen NesTea vs InCa? just to refresh your memory: rain lost to inca causing inca to advance and to play a PvP witch is his best match... then nada then the final... against nestea, that's right you spoke too soon without thinking. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On June 15 2011 00:08 Tomfour wrote: I don't understand why he is leaving TSL to play in a foreign team really. Is there something that if he is on TSL he can't play in as many foreign tournaments? Or is it just that if he is on TSL he has to play in the GSL which prevents him from going abroad? Every Korean wants a piece of the foreign scene tournaments pie.There was a lot of kinda"joking" talk from Koreans that the ones that don't get to go,are jealous a bit(and i believe they actually are) Right now only the top Koreans and Moon(  ) are getting into foreign invitationals like Dream Hack and MLG,Blizzcon,etc. | ||
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
On June 15 2011 00:02 Blasphemi wrote: I wish I could no skill my way to a GSL finals, I'm suprised more players don't take the no skill approach to Sc2, as clearly it's working better for him than all but 7 professional Sc2 players. It seems there's something to this no skill approach, perhaps it requires some skill? At that time? During GSL S3? Not exactly. TvZ required very little amount of skill during that time (even less than 5 rax reaper era, reapers actually require better micro than marines). A Terran player could just say "Well, I'm playing against a Zerg player who has much more skill than I do so I can just 2 rax him and he dies." and it actually worked out. BitByBitPrime: He eliminated SlayerS_YuGiOh and HayprO just by 2rax marine scv allin. TSL_Rain: Cheesed all the way to finals including cheesing NesTea out of the tournament. And yeah, there was maps factor too. GSL S3 was played with blizzard maps and players didn't have the right to veto any of the maps and most of zergs played on 2 of the following 3 maps: 1- Delta Quadrant 2- Steppes of War 3- Jungle Basin The only exception was Moon against Jinro. TL;DR: TvZ required least amount of skill during GSL Open S3 and all of Rain's opponents were either Zergs or below semi competitive protosses up until finals where he was ezpz'd 4-1 by MC. | ||
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anatem
Romania1369 Posts
2. stop hyping this Happy guy until he actually does something outside of playing ladder, of the ladder-famous people at least spanishiwa brought a revolutionary build and a new style for the masses to follow, this guy hasn't done shit. 3. i don't know what you've been watching for the past couple of months, but today's Rain is at least same level as the best foreign terrans, bar a few of the code S level guys. ye, that's below top korean tier, but still quite good, i mean ofcourse our guys look strong when faced with opposition of the third tier quality which is most of the western scene while rain looks like a nub playing the best of the best in code S. 4. despite the above, i don't see Rain ever becoming champion, but he might possibly evolve to consistently be in the final stages of tournaments as a perennial close-but-not-quite player making a decent living while at it, especially if he plays western tournaments. waiting for more info in the meanwhile just because this thing sounds pretty intriguing, even if it doesn't involve a fan favorite korean competitor. | ||
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
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phisku
Belgium864 Posts
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Rareware
Canada340 Posts
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imperator-xy
Germany1366 Posts
i think FXO and coL have lots of money MYM and SK have proven to be good teams to koreans in the past (although today's MYM is another MYM as in the past) | ||
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3772
Czech Republic434 Posts
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GeForceFX
Lithuania101 Posts
Oh. Oh. Em. I seriously couldn't see something like idra & rain practices lol. Seriously, is that guy that good to leave a team? He was on tsl, I think for him it's just downhill from here.. | ||
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Bona Fide
United States70 Posts
This is incorrect - there is not more money in the foreign scene. It is, however, considerably more accessible. The GSL is a monthly tournament with an $87,500 first place prize, considerably more than any foreign tournament. It is, however, a gruelingly difficult task to accomplish, and competition is viciously intense. Being a month-long tournament, it is extremely time-consuming and basically precludes most players from competing in any other tournament. As a result of the many players chasing very limited prize money, it is not very profitable to be in Korea right now unless you are a top-flight Code S player, making the top 16 every month. Many players are relegated to the Code A ranks and must struggle there a considerable time to even make it into the "big league". Compare this to any foreign tournament, and the difference in access is staggering. MLG's 2011 circuit events, in Dallas and Columbus, each had only a $5,000 first place prize. However, it is only one weekend - three days. Dreamhack, possibly the largest LAN tournament outside of Korea, offered a much healthier $15,000 first place prize for its invitational in the winter and $16,000 for the summer tournament. It is only four days long. Both these tournaments have open qualifier brackets that anyone can enter and advance through to have access to the full prize. TL;DR - There isn't more money in the foreign scene, it's just easier to get to and has less of a time demand. | ||
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Joseph123
Bulgaria1144 Posts
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incifan
Germany138 Posts
anyway, glhf Rain  | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On June 15 2011 00:10 phisku wrote: just to refresh your memory: rain lost to inca causing inca to advance and to play a PvP witch is his best match... then nada then the final... against nestea, that's right you spoke too soon without thinking. It was a pretty ambiguous statement, seeing as Rain was actually in the finals of a GSL. I don't see how you can hate a player for losing and indirectly causing a bad finals, it's not like that's his fault. Do you hate NaDa too? | ||
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JonB
Sweden325 Posts
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Zyphen
United States258 Posts
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jlim
Spain943 Posts
imo rain, bitbybit and thebest should join to form together an international team. with choya as a coach. and name it terran apples. the clan wars between them and sixjax would be too epic. i'm totally serious about that. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
maybe rain can play super good too, he just hasnt needed to show it yet. maybe you could argue hes just a second tier marineking, but that still puts him ahead of the vast majority of 'pro gamers' | ||
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Niick
Australia426 Posts
On June 15 2011 00:31 GeForceFX wrote: The same guy who cheesed his way to the finals to get crushed there just for us to not ever see him again? Oh. Oh. Em. I seriously couldn't see something like idra & rain practices lol. Seriously, is that guy that good to leave a team? He was on tsl, I think for him it's just downhill from here.. So you only watch the finals I take it and not Code S at all? edit @ turdbuglar... really.. you're not directly quoting anyone.. you don't need to be saying that... i know it's an example.. but... | ||
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
Congrats FXO! | ||
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