EPTDo any SEA players have experience with playing on Korean servers from Australia (or any other SEA country)?
I'm thinking about getting a Korean account, but not too sure what the latency will be like.
Any ideas?
SEA -> Korea latency
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Dhalphir
Australia1305 Posts
Do any SEA players have experience with playing on Korean servers from Australia (or any other SEA country)? I'm thinking about getting a Korean account, but not too sure what the latency will be like. Any ideas? | ||
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Ruscour
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Dhalphir
Australia1305 Posts
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lofung
Hong Kong298 Posts
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cristo1122
Australia505 Posts
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HaNdFisH
Australia119 Posts
Here is a list of the IP's of the servers. Open command prompt and type tracert kr.logon.battle.net This should give you some idea of your ping to the Korea server. (the last numbers before it times out) @Ruscour there are ways to get Korean accounts. Lots of people have bought them off Koreans who don't want to play. | ||
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Dhalphir
Australia1305 Posts
On June 01 2011 19:00 cristo1122 wrote: you can play on the korean server if u source a copy though it is rather difficult depending on ur location then the latency will be different. The east coast probly will be worst due to the way the network is laid out while the west coast will experience much less lag. It really depends on ur location, internet quality and providor. apparently it can be a second of lage i.e. inputs occur one second after u execute them. I'm on the west coast of Australia. Looks like I might jump for a copy. Thanks guys. Tracert results show that my latency to KR will be about 200ms, while my latency to the US servers (which I currently play on with no problems) is 300+. | ||
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stafu
Australia1196 Posts
For the record I'm with iiNet. | ||
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whaty0uwant
New Zealand346 Posts
I get roughly 200+? when playing on NA and it's playable but 300 is a little to much. | ||
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Dhalphir
Australia1305 Posts
On June 01 2011 19:12 stafu wrote: For the record I'm with iiNet. likewise. Hopefully I can source a Korean account and play with some better latency. | ||
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Ruscour
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Arwanto
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thanks | ||
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Cosmos
Belgium1077 Posts
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hahli9
England5 Posts
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Flaunt
New Zealand784 Posts
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alone
Poland410 Posts
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daffodil
Australia109 Posts
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Herper
501 Posts
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QQAura
Australia25 Posts
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FPSKeNz
91 Posts
On June 01 2011 19:52 hahli9 wrote: From Malaysia, I get on average 90ms. I was really impressed when I played on KR battle.net for the first time. Lag free environment. Really? Are you using Unifi? | ||
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DuaneDibly
Australia30 Posts
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tertle
Australia328 Posts
On June 01 2011 20:15 alone wrote: how would you guys rate 300-350 ping? is it decent, bad or unplayable? 300+ starts getting a bit dodgy and hard to micro 200-250 (what I get to US) is actually perfectly fine to play, as long as are you used to it. I don't feel like I can blame any type of blink or fungal micro mistakes on lag. | ||
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ryan1894
Australia264 Posts
TPG Fail. Also sometimes NA sometimes has better ping (250 vs 350) than SEA. I really hate that I get single digit pings to internode fps servers, but I am forced to play with triple figure pings with RTS. | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On June 01 2011 21:44 ryan1894 wrote: SEA's latency is ridiculous. Ling/Bane Wars are impossible to produce any decent results. Ever. TPG Fail. Also sometimes NA sometimes has better ping (250 vs 350) than SEA. I really hate that I get single digit pings to internode fps servers, but I am forced to play with triple figure pings with RTS. FPS servers are in Australia, RTS servers are not (SEA is in Singapore), there's nothing you can do about it. That's why Australia has a pretty big FPS scene in comparison to other countries imo. | ||
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Manaldski
229 Posts
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stafu
Australia1196 Posts
How hard is it to get a Korean account now? You need a Korean social security number or something don't you? | ||
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TheKing
Australia186 Posts
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PR4Y
United States260 Posts
C:\Users\PR4Y>tracert kr.logon.battle.net Tracing route to kr.logon.battle.net [121.254.200.130] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 4 ms 2 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1 2 8 ms 13 ms 9 ms <snipped> 3 23 ms 10 ms 9 ms <snipped> 4 17 ms 15 ms 15 ms <snipped> 5 26 ms 26 ms 24 ms <snipped> 6 33 ms 40 ms 40 ms <snipped> 7 45 ms 38 ms 39 ms <snipped> 8 108 ms 103 ms 101 ms <snipped> 9 103 ms 102 ms 112 ms <snipped> 10 101 ms 101 ms 101 ms pacnet.com.any2ix.coresite.com [206.223.143.138] 11 208 ms 207 ms 216 ms po4-0-0.cr2.nrt1.asianetcom.net [202.147.0.37] 12 275 ms 271 ms 269 ms po3-0.gw4.sel2.asianetcom.net [202.147.8.73] 13 262 ms 257 ms 262 ms LGT-0001.gw3.sel2.asianetcom.net [202.147.9.18] 14 265 ms 265 ms 262 ms 1.208.105.245 15 319 ms 314 ms 334 ms 211.233.95.46 16 260 ms 261 ms 260 ms 211.234.120.150 17 121.254.199.42 reports: Destination net unreachable. Trace complete. C:\Users\PR4Y> .... If you don't understand what those numbers mean, even with 300+ ms of latency.... packet loss is inevitable. Packet loss is worse then latency, as sometimes your commands won't even reach the KR servers... If you are getting 300+ ms of latency from SEA, don't bother with a KR account. It will be a total waste of money, trust me. | ||
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NoobStyles
Australia257 Posts
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601] Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\>tracert kr.logon.battle.net Tracing route to kr.logon.battle.net [121.254.200.130] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 72 ms 98 ms 99 ms BigPond.BigPond [10.0.0.138] 2 23 ms 23 ms 24 ms 172.18.210.1 3 23 ms 24 ms 23 ms 172.18.68.82 4 23 ms 23 ms 24 ms 172.18.240.14 5 25 ms 23 ms 23 ms 172.18.240.9 6 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms Bundle-Ether10.win18.Melbourne.telstra.net [203. 45.17.37] 7 24 ms 23 ms 24 ms Bundle-Ether2.win-core1.Melbourne.telstra.net [2 03.50.6.113] 8 40 ms 39 ms 39 ms Bundle-Pos3.ken-core4.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50 .11.12] 9 37 ms 37 ms 36 ms Bundle-Ether1.pad-gw2.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50 .6.29] 10 38 ms 37 ms 37 ms TenGigabitEthernet2-0.sydp-core02.Sydney.reach.c om [203.50.13.50] 11 149 ms 149 ms 149 ms i-1-2-0.siko-core01.bx.reach.com [202.84.143.138 ] 12 183 ms 182 ms 181 ms i-0-1-1-0.kscc-core02.bx.reach.com [202.84.148.5 8] 13 180 ms 181 ms 182 ms dacom-peer.kscc-core02.pr.reach.com [202.128.135 .66] 14 184 ms 184 ms 184 ms 211.53.88.21 15 185 ms 184 ms 184 ms 210.120.117.114 16 185 ms 184 ms 184 ms 210.120.105.146 17 184 ms 184 ms 184 ms 61.43.224.62 18 184 ms 202 ms 196 ms 211.233.95.58 19 184 ms 184 ms 184 ms 211.172.248.70 20 121.254.199.46 reports: Destination net unreachable. Trace complete. Melbourne to Kor on Bigpond if some one has the IP/ domain name for SEA ill tracert that for comparison | ||
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inFeZa
Australia556 Posts
Try it for your self, but theres no point in getting a korean account if you aren't top 200 NA from my experience. The other league players are just as bad, they're not all huge awesome SC players | ||
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Dhalphir
Australia1305 Posts
My main reason for the Korean account isn't to be like "woo, play with Koreans!" but simply to try to get a better latency experience without having to play on the dead SEA server. | ||
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BordZ
Australia118 Posts
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heladocasero
Australia87 Posts
195ms~ to us.logon.battle.net 400ms~ to kr.logon.battle.net I'm with TPG, living in Sydney. My korean ping is really odd, it goes via 66.162.129.149 (us.twtelecom so a server in US) then to a Japanese server that's supposedly located in Australia from iplocation then to Korea. So if you're on TPG I guess it doesn't go via Perth  Also I experience a much more noticeable delay playing on US compared to SEA so who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | ||
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Spartangy
New Zealand8 Posts
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Dhalphir
Australia1305 Posts
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Spartangy
New Zealand8 Posts
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TheKing
Australia186 Posts
On June 02 2011 18:38 Spartangy wrote: Hey guys, when I attempt to trace the route to any logon.battle.net, every attempt made times out... anyone know why? I'm in SEA myself, but I get better ping on the NA servers, and I would be interested in what my ping would be like on Korean servers, but I can't ping or trace the route to kr.logon.battle.net ... Are you with Bigpond? Do you have Cable? They block tracert, you need to do a 3rd party program to ping the servers. | ||
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hahli9
England5 Posts
Nope. Just a normal 4mb Streamyx line. | ||
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Spartangy
New Zealand8 Posts
Given I get better ping (only from experience I've noticed this) in NA servers compared to SEA servers, is that a good indication that my ping to Korea will be good/bad? | ||
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snowbird
Germany2044 Posts
I thought on SEA servers Australians could get at least below 100? Oh and not trying to rub salt in your wonuds here but..: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/DJvcu.jpg) | ||
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cristo1122
Australia505 Posts
On June 03 2011 08:08 snowbird wrote: Ugh, I didn't know the ping for Australian/NZ players is THIS bad. This is terrible :/ I thought on SEA servers Australians could get at least below 100? Oh and not trying to rub salt in your wonuds here but..: yeah thats why there is a relatively low level of interest in rts in australia and new zealand as the latency is usually terrible where as local servers for fps provide much better pings. | ||
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T0fuuu
Australia2275 Posts
I get 200 to US 300 to kr and 176 to sea Sydney with tpg. | ||
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cristo1122
Australia505 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/j6nna.png) Australia = bad internet | ||
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DensitY
New Zealand74 Posts
On June 03 2011 08:24 cristo1122 wrote: yeah thats why there is a relatively low level of interest in rts in australia and new zealand as the latency is usually terrible where as local servers for fps provide much better pings. It reminds me of the old days In quake, where you had HPBs and LPBs.. in Sc2, regardless of the realm I'm on (SEA, NA or EU) I very much feel like a HPB. Micro intensive games are just frustrating to play. | ||
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BordZ
Australia118 Posts
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ChibiZerg
Australia27 Posts
My isp (internode) seems to have changed their routing and instead of getting 320ms(ish) to KR server I'm now getting 134ms. (live in WA) Another friend is getting 190ms and he was on 311ms(ish) before the change too. | ||
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Herper
501 Posts
On June 03 2011 08:08 snowbird wrote: Ugh, I didn't know the ping for Australian/NZ players is THIS bad. This is terrible :/ I thought on SEA servers Australians could get at least below 100? Oh and not trying to rub salt in your wonuds here but..: wow that's practically LAN latency.. | ||
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Netsky
Australia1155 Posts
KR - best server NA - pretty decent, only slightly worse than KR SEA - average, don't really play on this server so it doesn't matter EU - noticeable latency, don't tend to play on this server because of it | ||
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Cite
Australia251 Posts
On June 03 2011 08:30 cristo1122 wrote: Australia = bad internet Sorry to post in a somewhat unrelated manner but C:\users\hnbroadway? as in harveynorman broadway? | ||
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Spectorials
558 Posts
I find sometimes my units just don't respond. I get a higher ping to NA but its a lot more smooth than SEA. I play from Perth | ||
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nyc863
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On June 03 2011 15:17 BordZ wrote: Well it''s expensive to host servers in Aus atm, the NBN will hopefully change the economics of the situation but until then we are stuck with crappy pings Are you implying that Blizzard, the company that created and owns the most financially successful entertainment product of all time, has a lack of money? Ultimately they don't care about local servers, there was a discussion on the WoW forums years back about local servers and they eventually disregarded the issue because morons kept white-knighting for Blizzard :-( It's a shame, but unfortunately there's nothing that can be done about it. On topic: I get 250ms to SEA, 300ms to US, 300ms to KR with AAPT. | ||
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Azurues
Malaysia5612 Posts
Surely almos lan latency to Sea to NA it changes a lot depending on the time from 150ms - 350 ms | ||
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DarthXX
Australia998 Posts
KR 280 US 230-250 SEA 130 | ||
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
The lag from SEA to US is 10x worse | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
you won't be able to get the fastest ffs off either though On June 03 2011 08:26 T0fuuu wrote: LOL it wasnt our idea to have the servers located in Singapore.... That was ambitious and stupid on blizzards part. I get 200 to US 300 to kr and 176 to sea Sydney with tpg. there's a reason why blizzard doesn't make a server in australia | ||
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
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Cabinet Sanchez
Australia1097 Posts
EDIT: that being said, since I'm so bad latency doesn't bother me! - I play ONLY on the US once they opened that up to us, why would I play on SEA when I can play with US buddies? I guess if everyone else follows that philosophy, the SEA server is probably quite barren. | ||
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Herper
501 Posts
On June 22 2011 21:04 Cabinet Sanchez wrote: Are the SEA players that bad to play with? I mean I suck personally but surely our ladder isn't that bad you need to go elsewhere for games? EDIT: that being said, since I'm so bad latency doesn't bother me! - I play ONLY on the US once they opened that up to us, why would I play on SEA when I can play with US buddies? I guess if everyone else follows that philosophy, the SEA server is probably quite barren. Level is about the same until you reach Masters - Grandmasters | ||
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DarthXX
Australia998 Posts
On June 22 2011 21:04 Cabinet Sanchez wrote: Are the SEA players that bad to play with? I mean I suck personally but surely our ladder isn't that bad you need to go elsewhere for games? EDIT: that being said, since I'm so bad latency doesn't bother me! - I play ONLY on the US once they opened that up to us, why would I play on SEA when I can play with US buddies? I guess if everyone else follows that philosophy, the SEA server is probably quite barren. Speaking from experience SEA > NA in terms of skill in sub masters leagues. Above that I cannot say, I think the very top of NA is more competitive because of all the NA pros that play there, my friends in masters/gm on SEA say NA is worse until you start hitting the pros though. | ||
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Levistus
1134 Posts
On June 03 2011 08:08 snowbird wrote: Ugh, I didn't know the ping for Australian/NZ players is THIS bad. This is terrible :/ I thought on SEA servers Australians could get at least below 100? Oh and not trying to rub salt in your wonuds here but..: damn! i wish i could play online with such low latency. so it's basically lan latency when they play in korea like the GSL? i can only play at SEA for 100ms i wonder if i can play competitive with 100ms if i'm going to play people from singapore with lan latency? I'm assuming that they have lan latency btw. | ||
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kellymilkies
Singapore1393 Posts
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Angry_Fetus
Canada444 Posts
On June 01 2011 20:15 alone wrote: how would you guys rate 300-350 ping? is it decent, bad or unplayable? Well it's 1/3 of a second delay, so placing proper force fields along with any other micro intensive tasks like baneling micro can be very frustrating. | ||
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DarthXX
Australia998 Posts
On June 22 2011 21:15 Levistus wrote: damn! i wish i could play online with such low latency. so it's basically lan latency when they play in korea like the GSL? i can only play at SEA for 100ms i wonder if i can play competitive with 100ms if i'm going to play people from singapore with lan latency? I'm assuming that they have lan latency btw. It definitely helps a lot, when I was in Singapore for a stopover on a flight, it was so nice  everything is just so ..... smooth you click and stuff happens, your forcefields are never late and your marines move away from banelings like nothing else | ||
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Levistus
1134 Posts
On June 22 2011 21:18 DarthXX wrote: It definitely helps a lot, when I was in Singapore for a stopover on a flight, it was so nice everything is just so ..... smooth you click and stuff happens, your forcefields are never late and your marines move away from banelings like nothing else What's your latency to the SEA server from Australia? | ||
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
On June 22 2011 21:04 Cabinet Sanchez wrote: Are the SEA players that bad to play with? I mean I suck personally but surely our ladder isn't that bad you need to go elsewhere for games? EDIT: that being said, since I'm so bad latency doesn't bother me! - I play ONLY on the US once they opened that up to us, why would I play on SEA when I can play with US buddies? I guess if everyone else follows that philosophy, the SEA server is probably quite barren. No way, sea is fun to play on because of the constant aggression, below masters or so, I think sea is a lot more fun, but above masters, just because of the population etc, it gets pretty tough to find new opponents, and you'll probably find players of higher skill in other servers. 300 ping..is kinda bad, you'll actually notice the time it takes from the command to travel from your keyboard/mouse to your troops. Force fielding ,etc is very frustrating, because 1 missed forcefield=gg. But a lot of my friends bought NA copies, so I play team and custom games there.1v1 laddering is done on sea. | ||
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BordZ
Australia118 Posts
On June 22 2011 17:06 Ruscour wrote: Are you implying that Blizzard, the company that created and owns the most financially successful entertainment product of all time, has a lack of money? Ultimately they don't care about local servers, there was a discussion on the WoW forums years back about local servers and they eventually disregarded the issue because morons kept white-knighting for Blizzard :-( It's a shame, but unfortunately there's nothing that can be done about it. On topic: I get 250ms to SEA, 300ms to US, 300ms to KR with AAPT. As long as its prohibitively expensive to host servers here yes thats exactly it. Apparently blizz has had past dealings with telstra and blizz was extorted out of the idea, the same applies for hon, i posted a quesiton regarding aus servers and they (s2) said that its just to expensive. | ||
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Sleec
Australia42 Posts
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Santi
Colombia466 Posts
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Levistus
1134 Posts
On June 22 2011 22:55 Sleec wrote: Lol Optus is so bad, I will get 400ms on KR, 300ms on SEA and 200 on US. damn. 300ms on SEA from Australia? what's the lowest you can get to SEA from Australia? If it's 200ms Blizzard should add a server in Australia. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On June 22 2011 23:02 Levistus wrote: damn. 300ms on SEA from Australia? what's the lowest you can get to SEA from Australia? If it's 200ms Blizzard should add a server in Australia. they tried a long long time ago basically telstra made unreasonable demands and blizzard rejected it, leaving us to rot in our hellhole for the rest of eternity at least that's what happened according to the internet | ||
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ChibiZerg
Australia27 Posts
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Foooky
Australia205 Posts
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arbitrageur
Australia1202 Posts
I get like 20 lines of pings, ranging from 5ms to 400ms, with random IP/URLs on the right hand side. How do you interpret the output? | ||
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ETisME
12702 Posts
On June 22 2011 21:04 Cabinet Sanchez wrote: Are the SEA players that bad to play with? I mean I suck personally but surely our ladder isn't that bad you need to go elsewhere for games? EDIT: that being said, since I'm so bad latency doesn't bother me! - I play ONLY on the US once they opened that up to us, why would I play on SEA when I can play with US buddies? I guess if everyone else follows that philosophy, the SEA server is probably quite barren. Depends, my plat fd in SEA is diamond in NA. Pretty sure my bronze fd can beat most bronze in NA too @topic, more than 200 ping is pretty bad, I remember trying dota in Aus and everyone except me had more than 100 ping and that game went horrible | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
They either screw over Australia or screw over the rest of SEA. Pretty easy choice to be honest. | ||
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