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GarlicSauce
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands92 Posts
May 20 2011 09:00 GMT
#21
I'll raise you one ladder weirdness... last season me and my 2v2 buddy were high platinum with a ridiculous win streak and didn't promote. This season we played only our placement match after several months of inactivity, lost it, and got promoted to diamond. ^_^
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Morphs
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands645 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 09:07:58
May 20 2011 09:02 GMT
#22
On May 20 2011 18:00 GarlicSauce wrote:
I'll raise you one ladder weirdness... last season me and my 2v2 buddy were high platinum with a ridiculous win streak and didn't promote. This season we played only our placement match after several months of inactivity, lost it, and got promoted to diamond. ^_^


This seems to indicate that the number of games you've played counts against you when considering you for promotion. So the longer you sit in a league, the harder you can get out of it.

On May 20 2011 17:53 Azro wrote:
2. you play top diamond with 50-60% = you are where you belong too
3. you got matched once vs. master so you had a win streak maybe (or the master a losing) and lost -> the systems now knows your not ready for master as you still lose vs. lower end master player

just keep cool and play because its fun not for beein promoted ...


The above would indeed be fine if I was in Diamond league, but I'm in Platinum. Of couse I'm not ready for Master League yet, but I definitely feel I'm well at Diamond skill level..

Yeah, the only thing I can do is keep playing. However, Blizzard has been working on the matchmaking system lately, and I can't stop thinking that maybe there's still some bug present..especially when players cannot be demoted..
Durn
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada360 Posts
May 20 2011 09:05 GMT
#23
I honestly think it is just getting your MMR up to the point it wants you to rank up. It's not so much a matter of quality, but quantity at this point. And I am being kind of hypocritical here, but to some extent... why do you really care? If it's matching you against Masters players and you're having fun while being challenged... just play them out. It doesn't really matter what icon it says next to your name.
"Even if I lose 100 games, that's 100 different arrows pointing me in the wrong direction." - Sean Day[9] Plott
raanwi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany14 Posts
May 20 2011 09:10 GMT
#24
yes, the ladder is locked.
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
May 20 2011 09:10 GMT
#25
On May 20 2011 18:05 Durn wrote:
I honestly think it is just getting your MMR up to the point it wants you to rank up. It's not so much a matter of quality, but quantity at this point. And I am being kind of hypocritical here, but to some extent... why do you really care? If it's matching you against Masters players and you're having fun while being challenged... just play them out. It doesn't really matter what icon it says next to your name.


I think it is because if there actually is a input limit reached bug or any other type of bug happening only for some players, then the ranking and promotion system isn't working. Especially if you jumped up 2 or 3 divisions from working hard and want to place into some of these "Sunday Gold/Platinum Tournaments" and prove yourself. How can you go to someone who organized that event and say, "I'm actually Platinum level but it won't promote me." They are just going to laugh in your face and say keep playing, even if there is some type of bug in the system.
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Morphs
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands645 Posts
May 20 2011 09:11 GMT
#26
On May 20 2011 18:05 Durn wrote:
why do you really care? If it's matching you against Masters players and you're having fun while being challenged... just play them out. It doesn't really matter what icon it says next to your name.


Play-wise you're right. But as I'm a competitive player I like the ladder aspect. I've had a lot of fun ranking up on the ladder and as I'm a solid #1 there's no challenge in that anymore. Furthermore, I've set Diamond league as a goal during beta. It may be a symbolical goal as I think I'm already at that level skillwise, but it's just nice to receive the reward for the practise I've put in lately.

I'm patient though ..
Hates_
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom13 Posts
May 20 2011 09:12 GMT
#27
For me personally, it does matter what the icon says as it's recognition for the time and effort I'm putting into the game. Being stuck in a league is frustrating. I know I belong in a better league, I'm playing and beating people in a better league, it annoys me that I'm not there along side them.

One of my main gripes is that I play people in the same league as me who are better than those in the ones above and are seemingly in the same position as me, being stuck in their current league.

The most annoying thing is thrashing someone in a higher league, to find out they've only played 5-6 games.
Hates_
StrangrDangr
Profile Joined March 2011
United States291 Posts
May 20 2011 09:15 GMT
#28
One of my main gripes is that I play people in the same league as me who are better than those in the ones above and are seemingly in the same position as me, being stuck in their current league.


This. I have been stuck in Plat for a while (not sure if I buy the who ladder locked thing or not) I have won 23 out of my last 30 games and i think all but 1 of my losses were to Plats while most of my wins were to diamonds.
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optical630
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom768 Posts
May 20 2011 09:17 GMT
#29
i got promoted into diamond from a loss, promoted into masters after i had 6 game loss streak and then won 1

you have to lose to balance your hidden rating out
Elzar
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany204 Posts
May 20 2011 09:22 GMT
#30
On May 20 2011 18:10 raanwi wrote:
yes, the ladder is locked.


Would you mind providing an official statement on that? =)

Also, why do you care about Leagues?
If you're good, you're good.
It's not like your skill suddenly improves when you get promoted or do you just want to say "yeah, look at me, now i'm in Masters"?
joshboy42
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia116 Posts
May 20 2011 09:32 GMT
#31
Also pretty funny rootdestiny got matched against an 800point diamond on ladder the other day. You can't tell me that's not weird
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Elzar
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany204 Posts
May 20 2011 09:34 GMT
#32
Not weird at all.
Could be a smurf with a 50-2 win / loss ratio or something like that.
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
May 20 2011 09:39 GMT
#33
To everyone saying "why do you care" I care because it seems there is a bug. I'm not complaining about not being ranked up, I'm just curious.

Thanks for all the responses guys!
Maruprime.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
May 20 2011 09:40 GMT
#34
Can anyone point to a player getting promoted?

This is not the first thread about the ladder being majorly weird and still I haven't heard any story about someone being promoted. That in itself, on the biggest SC2 forum in the world, makes me think that the ladder might be locked, or atleast really fucked up at the moment.

I am not young enough to know everything.
acidstormy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States191 Posts
May 20 2011 09:42 GMT
#35
i have the same problem. im stuck in #1 platinum random 3v3s but im playing 800+ point masters
Its like trying to find a needle in a stack of needles
Deleted User 12257
Profile Joined October 2004
Spain112 Posts
May 20 2011 09:50 GMT
#36
On May 20 2011 17:50 leviathan20 wrote:
I've been seeing a similar thing also on EU.

It's probably easier to disprove than it is to prove - is there anyone here who actually has been promoted in the last few days?


Last week I got demoted to Diamond on friday (I was like #41 on my division) and got promoted to Master again on Sunday.

I played like 70-80 games from friday to sunday.
PiQLiQ
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden702 Posts
May 20 2011 09:52 GMT
#37
On May 20 2011 17:06 vojnik wrote:
if u have a winning row u need to loose some games as well for promotion


No that is wrong! How do you think the people with 80-90% Win ratio gets into grandmasters?! Or how Pillage could hack himself to GM with 69-0?
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Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 10:18:03
May 20 2011 10:02 GMT
#38
On May 20 2011 18:40 Jiddra wrote:
Can anyone point to a player getting promoted?

This is not the first thread about the ladder being majorly weird and still I haven't heard any story about someone being promoted. That in itself, on the biggest SC2 forum in the world, makes me think that the ladder might be locked, or atleast really fucked up at the moment.



I think most people in the thread think the lock happened to accounts with the bug which were hotfixed not too long ago.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/2776511#blog
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NeonLiger
Profile Joined May 2010
United States14 Posts
May 20 2011 10:14 GMT
#39
I can say this. When I view the GM ladder in game, I get the "Not Yet Ranked" msg. Also I've played 80 games of season two now, been at rank 1 silver since like game 10. I'm playing against rank 1 golds and low plats and still not promotion, so maybe it does have something to do with the hotfix if your account was one of those that would have been disconnected previously.
ODKStevez
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland1225 Posts
May 20 2011 10:17 GMT
#40
I have been demoting myself to play protoss and I am playinum currently fighting brozne, players, I diddn't realise how far i'd tanked my mmr. So there is clearly a problem in my eyes. I have already made a post on this about demoting yesterday.
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