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CompLexity Gaming has faced Team EG in the ESEA Grand Finals. CompLexity is coming from the winners bracket, while EG won the LB by taking down vVv.
The two teams met 4 days ago in the Upper Bracket Finals of the event, where coL managed to take down EG by the score of 3-1, with the following scores:
+ Show Spoiler +Upper Bracket Finals - May 10th
coL.rsvp < EG.IdrA 1-2
coL.Ryze > EG.iNcontrol 2-0
coL.CrunCher > EG.StrifeCro 2-0
coL.Stalife > EG.LzGaMeR 2-1
The results for the Grand Finals are as follows:
+ Show Spoiler +Grand Finals - May 14th
coL.CrunCher < EG.IdrA 1-2
coL.Ryze > EG.iNcontrol 2-0
coL.Stalife > EG.StrifeCro 2-0
coL.rsvp > EG.Axslav 2-1
The official event bracket can be found at http://www.esea.net/index.php?s=league&d=bracket&id=4041
Replays can be downloaded by clicking here. [Free Account required]
The VOD's for the matches are now available at http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/2746/
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Well, Idra didn't let anyone down it seems.
Should check out the replays!
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I feel bad for Idra to be on this team he is the only Elite player imo and he is the only won who wins for his team why doesn't he try to join a better team?
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There's only so much one player can do  Real shame
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Glad that there's not you know.. spoilers in the title or anything.
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On May 15 2011 08:16 DashedHopes wrote:
I feel bad for Idra to be on this team he is the only Elite player imo and he is the only won who wins for his team why doesn't he try to join a better team?
you forget demuslim
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I think Demuslim and Idra are the only good players in EG rest of them feels like meh.
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Idra #1
Alawys win never lose, badass attitude
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team leagues should start using winners league format so idra can carry eg
D:
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On May 15 2011 08:20 hi_0 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +idra beat cruncher, thats all i care about 
This
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On May 15 2011 08:17 shabinka wrote:
Glad that there's not you know.. spoilers in the title or anything.
...yeah I was looking for this stream earlier...not anymore I guess
what was the prize for first and second?
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Yeah Idra would make a fine addition to any western team, Machine is under rated too though. I've not seen DeMuslim play since he broke his arm so I wonder if he's still a bit rusty.
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So Evil Geniuses is the Hwaseung Oz of the foreign world?
Can't wait to see those replays
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Just curious, why is this in SC2 general and not the tournament section?
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On May 15 2011 08:21 damod wrote:This
Amen.
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On May 15 2011 08:16 Senx wrote:There's only so much one player can do Real shame
WTB proleague format so we can see Idra all-kill
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On May 15 2011 08:27 mprs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 08:16 Senx wrote:There's only so much one player can do Real shame WTB proleague format so we can see Idra all-kill
you mean winners league..
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It's kind of disappointing how the tournament results played out. Glad to see IdrA doing his part. Must be frustrating for him, performing in his matches and still taking the loss. Hopefully iNcontroL will shift gears away from casting (nasl is great and all) but I feel it most definitely is affecting his ability to perform. Grats to coL.
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On May 15 2011 08:28 zerious wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 08:27 mprs wrote:On May 15 2011 08:16 Senx wrote:There's only so much one player can do Real shame WTB proleague format so we can see Idra all-kill you mean winners league..
Yes!
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they could have used Machine at least one time...
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Grats
On May 15 2011 08:19 Trumpstyle wrote:
I think Demuslim and Idra are the only good players in EG rest of them feels like meh.
+ Show Spoiler +
I wouldn't be surprised if Demu were to leave EG. It didn't seem like there was any team-like relationship between him and iNc in the Demuslim esl streaming thread, and he's never really participated in anything with EG. Granted, this would require a team probably to buy out his contract and such. While I love both Team EG and Demu, it doesn't really seem like they fit well together since EG is predominantly an all North American organization, and Demu is their lone European player.
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I wanna see those idra vs. cruncher replays :D
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1st = $2800
2nd = $1200
GO COMPLEXITY GAMING !
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On May 15 2011 08:36 stalife wrote:
1st = $2800
2nd = $1200
GO COMPLEXITY GAMING !
Nice~ Congratulations to you guys.
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EG is a big professional organization. The fact that they don't have the absolute best players is pretty irrelevant to someone like IdrA, as it only really matters in team leagues, which aren't a big deal in the grand scheme of things. LzGamer and StrifeCro are B-teamers for sure, EG's top lineup, in order of awesome, is IdrA, DeMusliM, iNcontroL and probably Machine. All-Kill format is a better format too. Looking forward to replays, especially IdrA vs CrunCher.
Congrats to compLexity, nerf stalife
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I thought that EG was deeper then that. good to see Idra taking care of business.
Liquid and EG really need to get their players to improve somehow. no offence to col but EG and Liquid are suppose to be at the top of the heap for NA teams.
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On May 15 2011 08:36 stalife wrote:
1st = $2800
2nd = $1200
GO COMPLEXITY GAMING !
That is insane, so much money and this gets no coverage?
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On May 15 2011 08:32 ilbh wrote:
they could have used Machine at least one time...
He might have been their 5th.
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Sadly, EG continues to be team idra . I have faith hat well practiced Axslavs, incontrol and Demuslims can kick ass too, but it's still sad to see Idra weighed down so much
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Nice spoilers in the 1st sentence.......
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On May 15 2011 08:51 Oreo7 wrote:Sadly, EG continues to be team idra . I have faith hat well practiced Axslavs, incontrol and Demuslims can kick ass too, but it's still sad to see Idra weighed down so much
think of it as jaedong oz! I am half surprised Col beat EG and half not. Strife/axlav normally do really well in most clan wars that I have watched. Grats too complexity, sad that ESEA has no coverage for its event :/.
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Yeah the lack of coverage was very disappointing. GG's to everyone who played in the league.
AskJoshy is casting the replays for YouTube and we'll add those links once they're up.
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On May 15 2011 08:36 stalife wrote:
1st = $2800
2nd = $1200
GO COMPLEXITY GAMING !
gratz man~
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grats coL, personally i'm surprised at the results...
oh my god eg didn't win one tournament, THEY LACK DEPTH boOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
sc2 "fans"' are so fickle and have less loyalty than canucks fans :|
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will they be posting the replays by any chance? Mainly I wanna get my hands on the idra replays
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Replays can be downloaded by clicking here. [Free Account required]
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On May 15 2011 09:21 aMies wrote:Replays can be downloaded by clicking here. [Free Account required]
Someone with an account mind uploading them to megaupload or fileshare or something?
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Well, atleast idra beat cruncher
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Why am I not surprised incontrol got 2-0ed.
Also lol IdrA dropped a game to cruncher,
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iNc's a hell of a player, but it just feels like he's cursed when it comes to clan wars/team matches..
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On May 15 2011 09:48 Hypemeup wrote:Why am I not surprised incontrol got 2-0ed. Also lol IdrA dropped a game to cruncher,
And Inca made it to the GSL Finals...
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Grats to coL showing everyone what you're made of. Maybe one day you guys will get the credit you deserve.
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Nice to see more teams performing well. It makes clan wars more exciting
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its weird to see that when EG makes it to the finals of a team tournament and then gets 2nd place, people jump all over them and say they are lackluster and need to step their game up. Its mind boggling how someone cant be supportive and say congrats to EG for a nice tournament run with an unfortunate ending. EG is still one of the top, if not THE top team in NA.
congrats to both teams, especially coL
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On May 15 2011 09:59 MartinN wrote:
ESEA need LIVE FINALS..
Hopefully they'll move SC2 to their LAN finals next season
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none the less good job to coL
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Poor IdrA, carrying his team. I'd label EG as one of the top teams, but they just don't really perform outside of him. Too bad it wasn't KoTH type like the GSL teamleague thing. ^^
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On May 15 2011 12:00 ThaZenith wrote:
Poor IdrA, carrying his team. I'd label EG as one of the top teams, but they just don't really perform outside of him. Too bad it wasn't KoTH type like the GSL teamleague thing. ^^
KoTH is a cool format but not really the best way to judge team vs. team IMHO. Giving more players a chance to compete is a more interesting match up than having 1 guy stream roll everyone. (Not saying coL is always the better team or that Idra would have won out.. just speaking in general.)
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im starting to like idra as who he is, caster and player
but god are his fans annoying
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On May 15 2011 08:16 DashedHopes wrote:
I feel bad for Idra to be on this team he is the only Elite player imo and he is the only won who wins for his team why doesn't he try to join a better team?
Sort of a stretch considering Axslav performs as well if not better in the past few months in clan-related matches.
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dayyyyyum CoL ripping up EG twice. nice job fellas
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On May 15 2011 12:00 ThaZenith wrote:
Poor IdrA, carrying his team. I'd label EG as one of the top teams, but they just don't really perform outside of him. Too bad it wasn't KoTH type like the GSL teamleague thing. ^^
All EG members besides IdrA are good, but are never seem consistent.
Incontrol and Axlav can take games off top players, but always seem to eventually get knocked out by someone in a tourney.
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On May 15 2011 12:11 jlake02 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 12:00 ThaZenith wrote:
Poor IdrA, carrying his team. I'd label EG as one of the top teams, but they just don't really perform outside of him. Too bad it wasn't KoTH type like the GSL teamleague thing. ^^ KoTH is a cool format but not really the best way to judge team vs. team IMHO. Giving more players a chance to compete is a more interesting match up than having 1 guy stream roll everyone. (Not saying coL is always the better team or that Idra would have won out.. just speaking in general.)
I like it, because as we saw with Slayers, some players prepare for a certain player or matchup, and can be used to snipe the other teams best players.
Also all-kills, or reverse all kills are exciting haha
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Are people seriously bagging on EG for only placing second in a major team league? Wtf?
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On May 15 2011 13:27 Bear4188 wrote:
Are people seriously bagging on EG for only placing second in a major team league? Wtf?
They're bagging EG for losing to a lesser team in a major team league. EG should have won most of those games if you look at player skill and previous results, and they didn't bring DeMusliM (who is having a very nice comeback right now).
I don't like all-kill format for foreigner leagues, in Korea teams are full of top players who can take wins from the best, IdrA would have all-killed coL like they weren't even there.
If anyone here is a CrunCher fan, have a look over at the coL forums, there's a 3-page thread of people bashing IdrA :3
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+ Show Spoiler + Ryze beating iNcontroL is a huge upset in my eyes. iNcontroL played about 8 games this week so that could of had something to do with it.
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too bad idra couldnt play every match
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coL.CrunCher < EG.IdrA
Makes me happy
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On May 15 2011 13:08 ROOTFayth wrote:
im starting to like idra as who he is, caster and player
but god are his fans annoying
Not all of us but, yeah... Tell me about it.
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On May 15 2011 13:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:coL.CrunCher < EG.IdrA Makes me happy
didnt see the match, but 2-1 implies it was close.
Hopefully soon people will realize CrunCher is a good player and here to stay
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On May 15 2011 13:44 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 13:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:coL.CrunCher < EG.IdrA Makes me happy didnt see the match, but 2-1 implies it was close. Hopefully soon people will realize CrunCher is a good player and here to stay
2-1 implies IdrA was cheesed.
CrunCher is obviously decent, even though his methods are unpopular (rushing or turtling). That said, he is nowhere near IdrA's level, or any of the other top-tier foreigners.
That said, I'm biased against coL.
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Wow, I didn't even know for this team tournament.
I can't understand why there are some high prized tournaments with top players which don't get any hype / advertising.
At least we have replays! YAY!
GJ compLexity Gaming
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not sure why we are getting hate.. col is a good team.
Demuslim has relocalizer issues atm and couldn't play on NA server
machine is out of town
I was traveling every day of the week and this was my first day back.. I was incredibly rusty
We took 2nd. Obviously in top shape with top lineup we probably win... but today CoL was the better team. Congratulate them... taking pot shots at us and saying stupid shit is dumb.
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GOGO complexity!! Smashing EG twice in a row, you guys are really showing that ur on the top of the NA scene. Nice job doodz.
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On May 15 2011 14:07 iNcontroL wrote:
not sure why we are getting hate.. col is a good team.
Demuslim has relocalizer issues atm and couldn't play on NA server
machine is out of town
I was traveling every day of the week and this was my first day back.. I was incredibly rusty
We took 2nd. Obviously in top shape with top lineup we probably win... but today CoL was the better team. Congratulate them... taking pot shots at us and saying stupid shit is dumb.
A bit arrogant after you lost twice 3-1 with only one player taking wins. I won't deny that you guys can win but, this time, you lost - twice.
Never mind, I am probably overreacting because I just don't like "excuses", especially not when a lot of money is on line and everyone trying or is giving his best. EG is great team and I am looking forward seeing you guys pwn left and right.
EDIT:
Hmmm readt topic again, there's no hate at all. Why would there be? 2nd place is awesome achievement.
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Good job coL, good to a new team rising through the ranks
Come on EG, you were one of my favourite NA teams alongside ROOT, show us what you can do
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EG just seems so underpowered except for idra :\ but coL has a decent lineup
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EG really needs pick up some better players.
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On May 15 2011 15:24 Blind04 wrote:
EG really needs pick up some better players.
EG gets second, and they need better players?
They have an amazing line up, incontrol is in top form atm, doing well in NASL, 4th at MLG. IdrA is IdrA, a complete boss.
Machine is HEAVILY underated, he is living with idra, watch out for him.
Strifecro has some really good games, You dont hear much about him in solo leagues, but he always seems to have close good games when i watch the team leagues.
Demuslim is coming back from injury, and on a different server. When he gets back in form - watch out.
Axslav is a great player, i really liked his play in wc3, it was kinda funky and different, and was always fun to watch, in sc2 hes sitting on 55% winrate in tournaments/leagues. 100-80, thats not shabby at all. He did really well in IPL this season too, coming i think 4th, which qualifies him for season 2 automaticly (iirc)
I dont know much about LZgamers play and how good he is, but obviously he knows what hes doing, and can play a solid game. also being the only terran in the roster (while demuslim was injured), i assume made him valuable for practice etc (i dont know just a guess)
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You will always have bad days/run into a team that just has your number that day. oGs is a good team, but they can't get out of the first round of the GSTL so far. These things just happen.
However, it'd have been nice to watch this. I hadn't even heard of it until this thread. (Also, the ESEA tournament listing is hard as hell to use for the Team league; it's a real mess trying to figure out what happened)
So, good job to coL on winning. They played well, even if they couldn't take out the Gracken.
(And EG took out stoic, BLAST, FXO, and vVv in the tournament to take #2)
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On May 15 2011 15:03 whiterabbit wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 14:07 iNcontroL wrote:
not sure why we are getting hate.. col is a good team.
Demuslim has relocalizer issues atm and couldn't play on NA server
machine is out of town
I was traveling every day of the week and this was my first day back.. I was incredibly rusty
We took 2nd. Obviously in top shape with top lineup we probably win... but today CoL was the better team. Congratulate them... taking pot shots at us and saying stupid shit is dumb. A bit arrogant after you lost twice 3-1 with only one player taking wins. I won't deny that you guys can win but, this time, you lost - twice. Never mind, I am probably overreacting because I just don't like "excuses", especially not when a lot of money is on line and everyone trying or is giving his best. EG is great team and I am looking forward seeing you guys pwn left and right. EDIT: Hmmm readt topic again, there's no hate at all. Why would there be? 2nd place is awesome achievement.
I don't think he's being arrogant. EG is a fantastic team that played a good team on a bad day. IdrA, Axslav, iNcontrol, Demuslim and Machine are all players who could take games off of the top players in the world depending on the day, so coL won what was obviously a tough match against a great team.
On May 15 2011 13:40 walklightwhat wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 13:08 ROOTFayth wrote:
im starting to like idra as who he is, caster and player
but god are his fans annoying Not all of us but, yeah... Tell me about it.
A lot of IdrA's fans are annoying, and like him for the wrong reasons. He is an incredible player, one of the best in the world. As a caster, his game knowledge rivals that of Day9, Tasteless, Artosis, and other top top casters.
On the flip side, a lot of IdrA's haters are complete idiots. Honestly, some of the least mature people I've ever encountered. On the INTERNET. Seriously.
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On May 15 2011 13:44 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 13:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:coL.CrunCher < EG.IdrA Makes me happy didnt see the match, but 2-1 implies it was close. Hopefully soon people will realize CrunCher is a good player and here to stay
+ Show Spoiler +Cruncher went for a 9 gate blink stalker all in with +2 weapons upgrade. IdrA defended well, but overextended off of creep and ended up losing a lot of his army just before Cruncher became mined out at his main.
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When EG starts DeMuslim, Idra as their mainstays, they are EXTREMELY good. Strifecro, Incontrol, with all due respect, are going to lose EG endless amounts of important clan league matches.
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On May 16 2011 03:24 LynxKerr wrote:
When EG starts DeMuslim, Idra as their mainstays, they are EXTREMELY good. Strifecro, Incontrol, with all due respect, are going to lose EG endless amounts of important clan league matches.
You're Obviously retarded
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Idra representing! :D Good to see Ryze tearing it up too, zergs seem to be on the rise.
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Sucks idra has to carry his whole team every time.
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Jeez enough EG hate. They took 2nd in a pretty good team league. The format makes it so the home team gets to pick 3 out of 4 of the matchups so one team has a pretty healthy advantage over the other in terms of getting good match ups for their players (ask anyone in this league, they will agree). EG had a good showing and if you have anything stupid to say about it just keep it to yourself
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On May 16 2011 03:24 LynxKerr wrote:
When EG starts DeMuslim, Idra as their mainstays, they are EXTREMELY good. Strifecro, Incontrol, with all due respect, are going to lose EG endless amounts of important clan league matches.
Strifecro's Clan match records aren't bad at all. He carried EG quite well in the winners league style clan leagues a little while back.
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Grats coL
GG's last night everyone
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Wow just got done watching this series the Cruncher vs Idra series.
+ Show Spoiler +Gotta love Cruncher 2base 10gate blink stalker play ^^ Glad to see Idra respond to it better in game 3. Things were a bit different though because of earlier aggression. I'm wondering how game 2 would have played out if Idra had gotten his ups, or if he thrown down a macro hatch earlier (to pump extra speedlings). Cruncher's build (in the true nature of all his builds!) really abused strength of blink stalkers, and I feel he could have thrown down a 3rd and transitioned out of that decently. I mean he wasn't that close to being mined out. Blink stalkers pretty decent against hydras in when there's a wide concave on both sides. Crunchers micro was sick though, but I mean when you're not macroing at all anymore and have 10 gates on 2 base I guess all you have to do is micro. Missing a gateway cooldown np. If you can't tell, upsets me to see Idra lose when he's 60 supply up in roach/hydra and Cruncher just runs 10 gates 2 base and crushes ~_~ Cruncher fighting though! Just not against Idra <3. Always fun to see these two go at it, even I wish Idra stomps
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On May 15 2011 14:07 iNcontroL wrote:
not sure why we are getting hate.. col is a good team.
Demuslim has relocalizer issues atm and couldn't play on NA server
machine is out of town
I was traveling every day of the week and this was my first day back.. I was incredibly rusty
We took 2nd. Obviously in top shape with top lineup we probably win... but today CoL was the better team. Congratulate them... taking pot shots at us and saying stupid shit is dumb.
Sir, this wouldn't be the TL forums as of late if there wouldn't be any hate at all after an upset... but yeah CoL is a good team, I wish people -- mostly puberts and teenagers I guess -- would focus on the winner's attributes rather than talking shit about the loser, but it will never happen unless the winner is hyped enough.
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On May 15 2011 14:07 iNcontroL wrote:
not sure why we are getting hate.. col is a good team.
Demuslim has relocalizer issues atm and couldn't play on NA server
machine is out of town
I was traveling every day of the week and this was my first day back.. I was incredibly rusty
We took 2nd. Obviously in top shape with top lineup we probably win... but today CoL was the better team. Congratulate them... taking pot shots at us and saying stupid shit is dumb.
Do you see the irony here?
You are a great caster though!
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On May 15 2011 08:19 Trumpstyle wrote:
I think Demuslim and Idra are the only good players in EG rest of them feels like meh.
incontrol is hardly a bad player either...
Anyway, gratz coL and also EG for 2nd place.
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On May 16 2011 04:20 Alejandrisha wrote:
Jeez enough EG hate. They took 2nd in a pretty good team league. The format makes it so the home team gets to pick 3 out of 4 of the matchups so one team has a pretty healthy advantage over the other in terms of getting good match ups for their players (ask anyone in this league, they will agree). EG had a good showing and if you have anything stupid to say about it just keep it to yourself
FYI EG was the home team in the grand finals. For those thinking EG would have won easily in a KOTH/winner's league style event, note that Idra dropped a game in both sets, so he's not unbeatable. Also EG did not place in top 2 in either SGL season 1 or 2, which was a winner's league style team league.
That being said, 2nd is indeed not a poor showing at all. The playoffs for team leagues can be unforgiving at times - you can perform extremely well the entire season, but then lose a match or 2 in the playoffs and thus not meet your potential.
EG gets a ton of exposure, and thus expectations are extremely high for them. It's understandable where the "hate" comes from, although I'd label it more as "surprise." But the truth is, it's very volatile at the top, and while EG is certainly one of the best teams in NA if not the best, many other teams are on par or close behind them. But that just makes things more exciting :D
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On May 15 2011 08:15 Grettin wrote:
Well, Idra didn't let anyone down it seems.
Should check out the replays!
Too bad he's the only one... The rest of the team is sub par, save axslav when hes on form and DeMuslim when hes on form.
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This league actually determines who has the better team. Though I do prefer winners league, but for a team this is to see who is the best.
Grats to coL.
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On May 17 2011 01:16 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 08:15 Grettin wrote:
Well, Idra didn't let anyone down it seems.
Should check out the replays! Too bad he's the only one... The rest of the team is sub par, save axslav when hes on form and DeMuslim when hes on form.
Demuslim has only shown form during his comeback. He got EG's only win against Dignitas in the EG masters cup (2-0 against Merz, a TvT sniper). Idra and Demuslim are the top EG players atm. Watch Demu at columbus, his current form suggests (as long as he sorts his TvZ out, he's starting to practice with Idra) he should place really well there.
People saying Demuslim doesn't fit EG, is probably because of the unfortunate timing of his arm-break which happened just after he joined. EG masters cup was his first tourney representing them afaik.
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On May 15 2011 14:07 iNcontroL wrote:
not sure why we are getting hate.. col is a good team.
Demuslim has relocalizer issues atm and couldn't play on NA server
machine is out of town
I was traveling every day of the week and this was my first day back.. I was incredibly rusty
We took 2nd. Obviously in top shape with top lineup we probably win... but today CoL was the better team. Congratulate them... taking pot shots at us and saying stupid shit is dumb.
Sounds like a bunch of excuses. EG consistently underperforms (outside of Idra) and that includes you buddy. You want fans you want to be professionals, then win. And when you lose, don't cry about it. You guys played in the event, and now want to cry about people being out of town, and not being able to play on NA server? There is thing called "planning". A solid organization would know of any all conflicts and be ready for it. They wouldn't be using them as excuses to cover there lackluster play. Its not like you guys went 2-1, 1-2...you went 2-1 and then got rolled.
Bottom line is you guys underperformed and its nothing new.
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I didn't realize second place was "under performing". Complexity is a pretty strong team.
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Sounds like a bunch of excuses. EG consistently underperforms (outside of Idra) and that includes you buddy. You want fans you want to be professionals, then win. And when you lose, don't cry about it. You guys played in the event, and now want to cry about people being out of town, and not being able to play on NA server? There is thing called "planning". A solid organization would know of any all conflicts and be ready for it. They wouldn't be using them as excuses to cover there lackluster play. Its not like you guys went 2-1, 1-2...you went 2-1 and then got rolled.
Bottom line is you guys underperformed and its nothing new.
You sir, took the words right out of my mouth, well written.
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On May 17 2011 03:03 purecarnagge wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 14:07 iNcontroL wrote:
not sure why we are getting hate.. col is a good team.
Demuslim has relocalizer issues atm and couldn't play on NA server
machine is out of town
I was traveling every day of the week and this was my first day back.. I was incredibly rusty
We took 2nd. Obviously in top shape with top lineup we probably win... but today CoL was the better team. Congratulate them... taking pot shots at us and saying stupid shit is dumb. Sounds like a bunch of excuses. EG consistently underperforms (outside of Idra) and that includes you buddy. You want fans you want to be professionals, then win. And when you lose, don't cry about it. You guys played in the event, and now want to cry about people being out of town, and not being able to play on NA server? There is thing called "planning". A solid organization would know of any all conflicts and be ready for it. They wouldn't be using them as excuses to cover there lackluster play. Its not like you guys went 2-1, 1-2...you went 2-1 and then got rolled. Bottom line is you guys underperformed and its nothing new.
Stfu, plz
They lost 2 clan wars in 4 days. Just relax it.
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On May 15 2011 14:07 iNcontroL wrote:
not sure why we are getting hate.. col is a good team.
Demuslim has relocalizer issues atm and couldn't play on NA server
machine is out of town
I was traveling every day of the week and this was my first day back.. I was incredibly rusty
We took 2nd. Obviously in top shape with top lineup we probably win... but today CoL was the better team. Congratulate them... taking pot shots at us and saying stupid shit is dumb.
You don't see why people are bashing EG yet you sit there and say things like "Obviously in top shape with top lineup we probably win... But CoL was better team, congratulate them"... really? If you really wanted to congratulate them then you wouldn't throw in comments like that. All you would say is "They beat us, congratulate them". You wouldn't sit there and made excuses or try to justify why you lost.
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On May 17 2011 01:26 Savern101 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 01:16 GreEny K wrote:On May 15 2011 08:15 Grettin wrote:
Well, Idra didn't let anyone down it seems.
Should check out the replays! Too bad he's the only one... The rest of the team is sub par, save axslav when hes on form and DeMuslim when hes on form. Demuslim has only shown form during his comeback. He got EG's only win against Dignitas in the EG masters cup (2-0 against Merz, a TvT sniper). Idra and Demuslim are the top EG players atm. Watch Demu at columbus, his current form suggests (as long as he sorts his TvZ out, he's starting to practice with Idra) he should place really well there. People saying Demuslim doesn't fit EG, is probably because of the unfortunate timing of his arm-break which happened just after he joined. EG masters cup was his first tourney representing them afaik.
I'm not disagreeing with you at all, I think DeMuslim and IdrA are good players on the team.
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IdrA fiiiighhhtttiiiiiing! Wich team should he join? Not so many foreigner teams with much better lineup :/
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this thread has become an argument over something stupid, congratulate the teams don't be idiots.
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On May 17 2011 03:03 purecarnagge wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 14:07 iNcontroL wrote:
not sure why we are getting hate.. col is a good team.
Demuslim has relocalizer issues atm and couldn't play on NA server
machine is out of town
I was traveling every day of the week and this was my first day back.. I was incredibly rusty
We took 2nd. Obviously in top shape with top lineup we probably win... but today CoL was the better team. Congratulate them... taking pot shots at us and saying stupid shit is dumb. Sounds like a bunch of excuses. EG consistently underperforms (outside of Idra) and that includes you buddy.
incontrol 4th place at mlg? why so bad geoff?
EG is an incredible team, always performing at a high level, they lose 2 clanwars and come in 2nd in a league with high level NA teams, and thats bad?
always a pleasure EG looking forward to competing with you in the future
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Yeah, I mean, they still got 2nd, not like this was a fight for last place or anything.
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IdrA > crunCher ? i am sad panda right now :'(
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sorry we took 2nd guys
We will strive to never lose again.
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Wow. I'm really excited coL is going to be playing in SCLNA! They did a great job. I really thought the top 2 teams were ROOT and EG and nobody else was close. Looks like teams will be trying to knock off the top ranked number 1 team at the moment coL! Will ROOT & EG be willing to challenge them over an 11 week regular season? Then playoffs? I can't wait to find out!
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On May 17 2011 05:52 iNcontroL wrote:sorry we took 2nd guys We will strive to never lose again.
Yeah, the way you make it sound in your posts you guys should never lose. Don't see why you're pissed at people for expecting constant wins.
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On May 17 2011 05:49 Mirl wrote:
IdrA > crunCher ? i am sad panda right now :'(
you weren't seriously expecting cruncher to beat idra were you? They were pretty good games though. I loved the idra: "you can leave now" ColCruncher has left the game.
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On May 17 2011 06:54 hunts wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 05:49 Mirl wrote:
IdrA > crunCher ? i am sad panda right now :'( you weren't seriously expecting cruncher to beat idra were you? They were pretty good games though. I loved the idra: "you can leave now" ColCruncher has left the game.
Good games? They were like all 2 base gateway all ins from what I saw
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On May 17 2011 06:56 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 06:54 hunts wrote:On May 17 2011 05:49 Mirl wrote:
IdrA > crunCher ? i am sad panda right now :'( you weren't seriously expecting cruncher to beat idra were you? They were pretty good games though. I loved the idra: "you can leave now" ColCruncher has left the game. Good games? They were like all 2 base gateway all ins from what I saw
good as in I enjoyed seeing idra holding off the all ins.
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On May 17 2011 05:52 iNcontroL wrote:sorry we took 2nd guys We will strive to never lose again.
Then a few of you will have to stop playing clanwars.... sry
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ESEA doesn't get as much recognition as it deserves. It honestly has a great league for not only SC2 but also CS:S/CS1.6/TF2
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Woohoo! Any win over EG is good.
Gogo Complexity!!
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Before I say anything, congratulations to coL for taking first and EG for placing second. Well done to both teams. With that said I just wanted to throw in my own two cents.
On May 15 2011 14:07 iNcontroL wrote:
not sure why we are getting hate.. col is a good team.
Demuslim has relocalizer issues atm and couldn't play on NA server
machine is out of town
I was traveling every day of the week and this was my first day back.. I was incredibly rusty
We took 2nd. Obviously in top shape with top lineup we probably win... but today CoL was the better team. Congratulate them... taking pot shots at us and saying stupid shit is dumb.
iNcontroL, I feel the way you stated it wasn't particularly great, specifically the bolded. By stating that, you make it specifically seem like you were making excuses for EG's placing second rather than first. Realistically, I personally felt that you were simply trying to explain the situation, whether people wanted to take it as excuses or not is their own discretion. Congrats to your team either way, it was still a good job, and best of luck in future clan matches.
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On May 17 2011 05:52 iNcontroL wrote:sorry we took 2nd guys We will strive to never lose again.
We love you Geoff don't let the haters get to you.
EG fighting!
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On May 17 2011 07:01 Legend` wrote:
ESEA doesn't get as much recognition as it deserves. It honestly has a great league for not only SC2 but also CS:S/CS1.6/TF2
well its ESEA's fault honestly . If they had streams or something or posted them on teamliquid tournament section a ton of people would watch. They just don't do any of that at least for sc2 T_T.
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On May 15 2011 08:16 DashedHopes wrote:
I feel bad for Idra to be on this team he is the only Elite player imo and he is the only won who wins for his team why doesn't he try to join a better team?
Demuslim, Axslav at a certain degree IncontroL?
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On May 17 2011 07:18 antilyon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 08:16 DashedHopes wrote:
I feel bad for Idra to be on this team he is the only Elite player imo and he is the only won who wins for his team why doesn't he try to join a better team?
Demuslim, Axslav at a certain degree IncontroL?
lol the 3 players u mentioned arent anywhere close to idras level.
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On May 17 2011 07:01 Legend` wrote:
ESEA doesn't get as much recognition as it deserves. It honestly has a great league for not only SC2 but also CS:S/CS1.6/TF2
Did they ever try to get recognition? afaik these games were not even livestreamed.
I am sure that if this $5000 tournament had the most basic post on the tournament forum it would obviously be on the calendar and any stream for it would have thousands of viewers.
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On May 17 2011 06:54 hunts wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 05:49 Mirl wrote:
IdrA > crunCher ? i am sad panda right now :'( you weren't seriously expecting cruncher to beat idra were you? They were pretty good games though. I loved the idra: "you can leave now" ColCruncher has left the game.
i am serious,i dont like IdrA game style.
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aw yeah go rsvp!! top 4 western ex-terran protoss since 1842
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"You can leave now"
Haha so good :D
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Well done ComLexity. Also when the hell did 2nd place become a bad thing? Grats all around.
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Well I was interested in seeing these games, but could hardly stand to sit through all three of cruncher's games. Seriously such a boring player to watch... allin allin allin
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at least they were different all ins. But man the 3rd sloppy pressure on idras 3rd. warp in sentries but never ff?
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This is a joke, i feel so bad for IdrA. He would of crushed everysingle player on Col if it was a different format
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On May 15 2011 08:16 DashedHopes wrote:
I feel bad for Idra to be on this team he is the only Elite player imo and he is the only won who wins for his team why doesn't he try to join a better team?
IdrA gets paid really well. Don't forget that EG is a huge team. They've been around since like 1997.
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On May 17 2011 07:56 Mirl wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 06:54 hunts wrote:On May 17 2011 05:49 Mirl wrote:
IdrA > crunCher ? i am sad panda right now :'( you weren't seriously expecting cruncher to beat idra were you? They were pretty good games though. I loved the idra: "you can leave now" ColCruncher has left the game. i am serious,i dont like IdrA game style.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that he's a worse player. IdrA's mechanics are top notch regardless of whether or not you like him as a player, therefore the outcome was sort of obvious (no offense to Cruncher).
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On May 17 2011 11:08 ViperaViRuS wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 07:56 Mirl wrote:On May 17 2011 06:54 hunts wrote:On May 17 2011 05:49 Mirl wrote:
IdrA > crunCher ? i am sad panda right now :'( you weren't seriously expecting cruncher to beat idra were you? They were pretty good games though. I loved the idra: "you can leave now" ColCruncher has left the game. i am serious,i dont like IdrA game style. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that he's a worse player. IdrA's mechanics are top notch regardless of whether or not you like him as a player, therefore the outcome was sort of obvious (no offense to Cruncher).
taking nothing away from IdrA as he's a way better player than i am... but last 2 cw's he only won 2-1 over both rsvp and cruncher. he's certianly an incredible player but not unbeatable
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On May 17 2011 10:19 DariMa wrote:
This is a joke, i feel so bad for IdrA. He would of crushed everysingle player on Col if it was a different format
I know, too bad for those team leagues that actually require more than one person to win a match. EG vs coL not IdrA vs coL
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On May 15 2011 15:45 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 15:24 Blind04 wrote:
EG really needs pick up some better players. EG gets second, and they need better players? They have an amazing line up, incontrol is in top form atm, doing well in NASL, 4th at MLG. IdrA is IdrA, a complete boss. Machine is HEAVILY underated, he is living with idra, watch out for him. Strifecro has some really good games, You dont hear much about him in solo leagues, but he always seems to have close good games when i watch the team leagues. Demuslim is coming back from injury, and on a different server. When he gets back in form - watch out. Axslav is a great player, i really liked his play in wc3, it was kinda funky and different, and was always fun to watch, in sc2 hes sitting on 55% winrate in tournaments/leagues. 100-80, thats not shabby at all. He did really well in IPL this season too, coming i think 4th, which qualifies him for season 2 automaticly (iirc) I dont know much about LZgamers play and how good he is, but obviously he knows what hes doing, and can play a solid game. also being the only terran in the roster (while demuslim was injured), i assume made him valuable for practice etc (i dont know just a guess)
Lz's nothing special, maybe one of the better NA terrans but EU has so many more. Strifecro I've seen him either crush or get crushed only more often get crushed. Demuslim is good that's true. Axslav's not bad, I would place him third. Machine I think was solid, but isn't performing at the moment. Incontrol I think is a bit overrated, but he is doing well currently so he has that going for him. EG feels a bit weak right now imo, but they still do quite well in CWs/team leagues and sometimes better then teams like Dignitas who have a great deal of talent and are generally performing but don't always hold the top for some reason.
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On May 15 2011 15:45 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 15:24 Blind04 wrote:
EG really needs pick up some better players. EG gets second, and they need better players? They have an amazing line up, incontrol is in top form atm, doing well in NASL, 4th at MLG. IdrA is IdrA, a complete boss. Machine is HEAVILY underated, he is living with idra, watch out for him. Strifecro has some really good games, You dont hear much about him in solo leagues, but he always seems to have close good games when i watch the team leagues. Demuslim is coming back from injury, and on a different server. When he gets back in form - watch out. Axslav is a great player, i really liked his play in wc3, it was kinda funky and different, and was always fun to watch, in sc2 hes sitting on 55% winrate in tournaments/leagues. 100-80, thats not shabby at all. He did really well in IPL this season too, coming i think 4th, which qualifies him for season 2 automaticly (iirc) I dont know much about LZgamers play and how good he is, but obviously he knows what hes doing, and can play a solid game. also being the only terran in the roster (while demuslim was injured), i assume made him valuable for practice etc (i dont know just a guess)
No doubt, they are all good players. However, they aren't exactly a group that boasts powerful results consistently. You have Idra who still performs spectacularly, and Incontrol who has been riding what skill/perks he picked up from beta. For the latter, it's almost as if he's standing still while everybody else is accelerating beyond him. For the other guys, though, it's like they ran out of players to put on their A-team. For these kind of players, you expect them to at least put out great results for things like team leagues, but they're not.
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My comments reflect that professionals act like professionals win or lose. I agree with many others that EG hasn't hit on all cylinders yet. There has been much lacklaster play from EG. The only one doing well in NASL is Idra... would be worse if you considered Grubby as ex EG. Dropped right before the league started. Although he was never formally signed for sc2.
My question remains is what is EG going to do to grow and develop their talent?
Just imagine if they actually did the Korean house they kept talking about... they wouldn't have made it in Code B with how they have performed in NASL and across other matches. However should have come to an arrangement such as TL/OGS, I feel they would have vastly improved under a Korean regimented style. EG is at .500 in the NASL.
I'm not sure your able to really hold team meetings, practice together, when your spread out across half the world. Clan-house oriented teams continue to dominate this game. Look at how much better TL got from when they went over to Korea? Sure you can talk on skype, voice chat deals, but its not the same as being in the same room as everyone...
EG had a lot of plans, talked a lot of talk, an now are fading into mediocre play. In all honestly I think Tasteless cursed them Kerrigan style. Just an opinion.
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Anywhere to find replays for the previous rounds? Or are there vods posted somewhere?
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ggs Idra. That series was pretty epic.
+ Show Spoiler +Cruncher 2 base all in every game and idra's bm was entertaining as always.
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Watched the IdrA vs Cruncher series.
+ Show Spoiler +IdrA vs Cruncher game 2 was painful to watch... I'm glad game 3 ended differently.
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