EPTYou don't need to aim for a transition, you just have to kill 1 base. Rushing makes it a lot easier to accomplish this task.
2v2 and why it isn't Cheese - Page 6
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101toss
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You don't need to aim for a transition, you just have to kill 1 base. Rushing makes it a lot easier to accomplish this task. | ||
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Ledcaveman
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101toss
3232 Posts
On May 07 2011 08:58 Ledcaveman wrote: 2v2 will never be taken seriously, regardless of technicalities If you think 2v2 is a joke, try getting into masters 4v4  | ||
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Nabes
Canada1800 Posts
On May 07 2011 09:04 101toss wrote: If you think 2v2 is a joke, try getting into masters 4v4 what does that have to do with anything? all team games wont be taken seriously, especially going up from 2v2 | ||
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Offhand
United States1869 Posts
On May 06 2011 07:43 PowerDes wrote: If you put the high level players in 2v2 against each other, I guarantee people will enjoy watching it. They do have "high level" 2v2s. No one watches them. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On May 07 2011 08:58 Ledcaveman wrote: 2v2 will never be taken seriously, regardless of technicalities ...never be taken seriously, again? there used to be 2v2 proleagues. | ||
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GimbleB
Scotland178 Posts
I could see it becoming viable in tournaments in the future. | ||
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oZe
Sweden492 Posts
Ps. Battles are just more epic 4v4! | ||
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PowerDes
United States520 Posts
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dmillz
Canada270 Posts
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VoirDire
Sweden1923 Posts
On May 11 2011 16:21 dmillz wrote: Anyone who thinks 2v2 is a cheese fest and zerg rule it, you need to watch SeleCT stream 2v2, he does TP and WRECKS people in macro games. They just beat the top 2 2v2 teams in the world like 10 times in a row. Actually it was 13 times in a row. Though they played a favorable MU and favorable maps. There isn't much a ZZ team can do in these situations | ||
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SniXSniPe
United States1938 Posts
On May 11 2011 16:21 dmillz wrote: Anyone who thinks 2v2 is a cheese fest and zerg rule it, you need to watch SeleCT stream 2v2, he does TP and WRECKS people in macro games. They just beat the top 2 2v2 teams in the world like 10 times in a row. Did you not see the zergling/marauder combination that served as an all-in practically? Did you not see the later games with the ZZ combination where one zerg went Hydralisks (not even trying to win fully?). I'm not entirely sure if Select was even playing entirely serious for the most part. | ||
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Mr_Kyo
United States269 Posts
Its the dt + overlord or photon cannon + overlord strategies that make me want to give up on 2v2s etc. | ||
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PowerDes
United States520 Posts
On May 12 2011 00:08 Mr_Kyo wrote: Those aren't the cheeses that ppl hate. Its the dt + overlord or photon cannon + overlord strategies that make me want to give up on 2v2s etc. That is why you always scout after pylon/depot. | ||
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a4bisu
Australia86 Posts
It's about win or lose, not about cheese or no-cheese. If you keep losing to cheese, you will fall to a lower league/rank where cheese is the most common strategy and much easier for you to defense. If you keep winning by defending cheese successfully you will learn how to defend cheese and most importantly, how to cheese. and you'll get yourself to a higher league/rank which is always what you want on ladder. If you keep cheesing afterward, you'll find it's much harder to win by cheese at the higher level. Most importantly, winning by a cheese is not fun and lost for that is extremely frustrating. Then finally you'll learn the truth of cheese: CHEESE IS BORING. | ||
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dmillz
Canada270 Posts
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MattRz
Chile1680 Posts
Thank you for writing this. | ||
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PowerDes
United States520 Posts
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Kamikiri
United States1319 Posts
This doesn't mean 2v2 is bad but it is hard to be taken as serious as 1v1 (if at all). The solution would most likely be bigger maps with more expansions as to allow more macro games, the way 2v2 is now it is very dull to alot of people who play 1v1 seriously. | ||
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