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On August 31 2011 09:36 scatmango2 wrote:
I get the feeling Idra ragequit the Skype call in order to dodge the Trimaster question.

On August 31 2011 09:36 scatmango2 wrote:
I get the feeling Idra ragequit the Skype call in order to dodge the Trimaster question.

On August 31 2011 09:41 HallBregg wrote:


haha, I can't help to feel the same way. Also it was realy wierd, that he just didn't use Inc mic.

On August 31 2011 09:45 walklightwhat wrote:


Yeah, I'm sure he also caused the cameras to freeze and Painuser to get booted from the same call as well. Pretty impressive, really.

Thanks for another show guys.

On August 31 2011 09:41 windsupernova wrote:
I kinda liked the notion of Hellions getting an HP nerf.

Kinda disappointed that they talk about stuff without even having made some basic research, I mean its not terrible but DjWheat should at least have some notes prepared so he can clear some of those misconceptions.(talking about the cancel stuff)

On August 31 2011 09:58 Holykitty wrote:



the problem with a hp nerf is that its easy to get into a situation where helions just cant do any fighting because they just die, but harras / slow lings is still a cake walk because its 1 sided damage. this would make them just another 'hard counter unit' that people hate, they would just hard counter workers.

if we are set on a change, the change (imo) should be to their speed and to their damage OR the removal of +light bonus all together, depending on how blizzard want them to function. they dont need bonus damage vs light and blue flame could be +5 vs all.


i feel the whole +damage design is a lazy way to make a unit good or bad vs another. look at the roach vs marine dynamic. the balance of power swings back and forth between the units based on upgrades throughout the game and neither of them deals bonus damage, its just a lazy mechanic for blizzard brute forcing a unit match up to work how they want without a good unit design

helions can be an effective worker killer, without dealing absurd amounts of damage to light units. being fast and cheap makes them good harras, +light makes them easy to use. removing their +vs light would make them less rewarding, more in line with their low risk. rather than increasing their risk and keeping the reward. this approach seems to REINFORCE the hated 'instant death' the casters complained about. with a lower reward, dropping is still a favourable thing that encourages better player, but it wont end the game in 5 seconds.

if helions dealt more sustained damage they could be used in head to head fights outside killing each other (idra loves to point out that hydras are so bad they can only kill zerg units) helions are pretty bad outside of terran units.

On August 31 2011 09:14 Sapphire.lux wrote:

I just did. Game design. Reread my post.

On August 31 2011 08:39 itsTheSituatioN wrote:
painuser so nab.
5bunkers vs immortals? please. marauders with stim are pretty damn good vs immortals already

On August 31 2011 22:34 Kuhva wrote:


Marauders are currently only any good against immortals cause the can outrange them so can easily kite the shit against them. With equal range this won't be the case.

It also worth noting immortals aren't armoured. They are just mechanical. Therefore Stim Marines would do equal, if not more DPS to the immortal as a Marauder would. They are also just as cost effective taking 3 shots to kill the same as a marauder (2 if stimmed without combat shield, a marauder would have 5 life left after 2 shot and a stim).

Ofc quite as simple as that as the immortals would be backed by Gateway units.

On August 31 2011 22:34 Kuhva wrote:

It also worth noting immortals aren't armoured. They are just mechanical. Therefore Stim Marines would do equal, if not more DPS to the immortal as a Marauder would. They are also just as cost effective taking 3 shots to kill the same as a marauder (2 if stimmed without combat shield, a marauder would have 5 life left after 2 shot and a stim).

On August 31 2011 11:28 Officedrone wrote:
I like how PainUser and iNcontroL had well thought-out responses to their placement and losses and IdrA just "thinks he played well" and no introspection at all.

If IdrA wants to actually perform well now, he seriously needs to set his ego aside for a moment and look critically at what he's doing wrong.

On August 31 2011 22:47 ZeromuS wrote:


stalkers rarely get away from a marauder with slow so why would an already slower immortal get away? One range doesnt magically make the immortal retreat quickly. When you attack with immortals you are committing in the same way you are now. Unless the opponent backs away the immortal isnt going to survive.