EPT[Show] Inside The Game - Official Thread - Page 123
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Empirimancer
Canada1024 Posts
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Wunder
United Kingdom2950 Posts
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On August 31 2011 08:50 Sc1pio wrote: Most pros don't really play on the PTR and wait until the patch is live in order to do said testing. I mean unit test maps I am a zerg and I know the damage of marines/hellions/stalkers/roaches/tanks/etc to light/armored ._. | ||
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
Base damage of hellions against light units is 14, and currently blue flame increases the damage up to 24. In next patch blue flame will be downgraded to +5 so blue flame hellions will do 19 dmg versus light. This means that two blueflame hellions will "two" shot workers. | ||
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murphs
Ireland418 Posts
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Carapas
Canada242 Posts
On August 31 2011 08:56 murphs wrote: I really want DeMuslim for the Terran host. Then we would have to rename it inside Evil Geniuses! | ||
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
Nerf them any way you want, they will never ever ever cost gas, it's just basic design. Tanks/ Thors/ Vikings/ factories cost gas, hellions are mineral sinks. Super disappointed by Inc and the rest. | ||
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Demonzii
Netherlands180 Posts
Painuser made a simple mistake that all of you would make 1 day. So please be quiet. Keep going guys! love the show! | ||
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Chocolate
United States2350 Posts
On August 31 2011 08:59 Demonzii wrote: Stop complaining. I'm actually waiting for the day that all you trolls will be gone. Painuser made a simple mistake that all of you would make 1 day. So please be quiet. Keep going guys! love the show! The problem is that it is not a single mistake. Recently there was a show when painuser advised not going 1 gate expo->robo against 1-1-1 and instead advised 3 gate. He also said you don't need an obs because the T almost never gets cloak -.- | ||
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
On August 31 2011 08:59 Demonzii wrote: Stop complaining. I'm actually waiting for the day that all you trolls will be gone. Painuser made a simple mistake that all of you would make 1 day. So please be quiet. Keep going guys! love the show! Well also idra did not have a clue about this thing, if i heard right idra claimed that two hellions wont two shot workers but this is obviously false. | ||
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Vuistgevecht
Netherlands77 Posts
On August 31 2011 08:58 Sapphire.lux wrote: Hellions costing gas.....Christ... Nerf them any way you want, they will never ever ever cost gas, it's just basic design. Tanks/ Thors/ Vikings/ factories cost gas, hellions are mineral sinks. Super disappointed by Inc and the rest. Hellions kill every worker and zergling instantly, and they cost 100 minerals ( which means you can build 4 if you just call in 1 mule), hellions are either way too strong, or way too cheap. Its impossible to have any good arguments for the hellion not costing gas | ||
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renlynn
United States276 Posts
On August 31 2011 09:00 Lordwar wrote: Well also idra did not have a clue about this thing, if i heard right idra claimed that two hellions wont two shot workers but this is obviously false. idra didn't know the damage numbers, but he knew that hellions were going from needing 2 shots to 3. they then went on to talk about how this meant 2 hellions slipping into a mineral line would be less insta-gg, which is probably where you're getting this two shot whinge from. | ||
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Sc1pio
United States823 Posts
On August 31 2011 09:07 Vuistgevecht wrote: Hellions kill every worker and zergling instantly, and they cost 100 minerals ( which means you can build 4 if you just call in 1 mule), hellions are either way too strong, or way too cheap. Its impossible to have any good arguments for the hellion not costing gas MULEs gain 270 minerals on average, and they're not very good vs. speedlings in small numbers anyway. I agree with the sentiment that they need less HP as the biggest nerf, rather than the gas cost, seeing as they're a mineral dump. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9447 Posts
On August 31 2011 08:59 Demonzii wrote: Stop complaining. I'm actually waiting for the day that all you trolls will be gone. Painuser made a simple mistake that all of you would make 1 day. So please be quiet. Keep going guys! love the show! Its not a simple mistake. It shows an awfull understanding of the game, and how one as a player should approach the game. | ||
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
On August 31 2011 09:07 Vuistgevecht wrote: Hellions kill every worker and zergling instantly, and they cost 100 minerals ( which means you can build 4 if you just call in 1 mule), hellions are either way too strong, or way too cheap. Its impossible to have any good arguments for the hellion not costing gas I just did. Game design. Reread my post. | ||
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
On August 31 2011 09:09 renlynn wrote: idra didn't know the damage numbers, but he knew that hellions were going from needing 2 shots to 3. they then went on to talk about how this meant 2 hellions slipping into a mineral line would be less insta-gg, which is probably where you're getting this two shot whinge from. Painuser and idra were quiet clearly arguing about wheter does two hellions two shot workers or not. Painuser said that two hellions two shot workers and idra claimed that they three shot. Painuser was right, idra was wrong. Though painuser has numbers wrong, but his point was right. | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On August 31 2011 09:17 Lordwar wrote: Painuser and idra were quiet clearly arguing about wheter does two hellions two shot workers or not. Painuser said that two hellions two shot workers and idra claimed that they three shot. Painuser was right, idra was wrong. Though painuser has numbers wrong, but his point was right. are you retarded | ||
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
On August 31 2011 09:17 Lordwar wrote: Painuser and idra were quiet clearly arguing about wheter does two hellions two shot workers or not. Painuser said that two hellions two shot workers and idra claimed that they three shot. Painuser was right, idra was wrong. Though painuser has numbers wrong, but his point was right. euuhm no? | ||
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
how come | ||
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