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Undecided.
For me it really depends on who is casting, how is the production value, how interesting the games are, how seriously are the players taking the tournament and how often the commercials are gonna show up or change for paid stream (seriously, after watching the MLG stream with the SAME commercials for over 2 years, I'm sick of commercials).
The GSL has set a very high standard to be honest, everything I'd pay for I always compare it to GSL, I hope the NASL doesn't turn out to be a disappointment, I have faith in the organizers to make the correct decisions.
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Lets be reasonable here guys, $20 for a season... you are all stingy if you are complaining about the price.
the production quality on the other hand... the fact that they even published that "showmatch" is laughable... Hearing incontrol scream about something that happened 20 seconds ago is an experience ruiner. It was a replay, redo the fucking thing... lazy/slackery/unprofessional
I assume they realize this, however, its bizzare that they didnt redo the showmatch--you know, since it was the NASL pilot...
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On April 02 2011 23:37 blackone wrote:
I'm gonna wait for it to start to see if it's worth my money, but I'm probably gonna buy it.
I do think it is pretty expensive though (as are GSL and MLG). I pay 20$ a month for MLB.tv, I get like 15 games per day and the MLB is a multi-billion dollar industry so I don't see why a have to pay just as much for some games of starcraft.
That's exactly why, per-unit, an MLB subscription would be cheaper. They have the sheer volume of people watching to sustain themselves charging less per subscription.
That being said, imo $20/$25 is an acceptable price if you're into watching the games and you'd make good use of it. I know I don't have the time to watch all the games so I personally won't be getting it.
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Heh they changed it to Zero commercial interruptions, glad they aren't that silly.
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No, I probably won't be interested in 90% of the games. There are still enough interesting games happening without NASL and watching VoDs doesn't bring the same excitement watching live games does.
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i will probably not buy the first season since i should be able to watch it live just fine but im not opposed to paying in the future or of the opinion the price is not reasonable.
id suggest in general if anyone makes a "will you pay" poll, make 2 no options: 'i wont buy this tournament unless its good enough' and 'i dont pay to watch sc2 in general'
its a bit dificult to evaluate the no's when some people would vote no regardless of the quality of the tournament/cast.
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$25 or $20 is not the issue. It's where you spend that money. $25 is something you'd spend on a one night out with friends or a date, might as well skip a night and get 3 months of entertainment.
But the issue is "Is it worth it?" Nobody likes to spend money on things they are not satisfied with or think are unworthy. At least that's it for me. Unless the NASL proves to be worthy, then I won't consider buying, and I think that's the issue most posters represented.
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The only real source of hesitation I have is the production value. If its GOM level (or even TSL/Reddit Invitational level) its worth it. If its MLG level its not.
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Will wait and see if the tournament is well runned, which I somewhat doubt based on who's running it or well who the "face" of the tournament is.
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Just bought mine, the price is lower than I was expecting.
I don't mind there being adverts between the games at all.
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fuck that, LQ is good enough for me
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On April 02 2011 23:46 jnkw wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2011 23:37 blackone wrote:
I'm gonna wait for it to start to see if it's worth my money, but I'm probably gonna buy it.
I do think it is pretty expensive though (as are GSL and MLG). I pay 20$ a month for MLB.tv, I get like 15 games per day and the MLB is a multi-billion dollar industry so I don't see why a have to pay just as much for some games of starcraft. That's exactly why, per-unit, an MLB subscription would be cheaper. They have the sheer volume of people watching to sustain themselves charging less per subscription.
That's not my (the customer's) problem, I'm only interested in the value I get for my money.
And if the NASL would get a million paying subscribers all of a sudden, would they lower their price for that reason?
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Seriously? $20 dollars is a really, really cheap deal... if you guys are expecting the games of very high quality for whole three months, then the cost should be like 100 or 150 bucks!
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On April 02 2011 20:42 betrayedark wrote:
» 1080p live stream access
» 24/7 Video On Demand access to all content
(including weekly shows, analysis, highlights, and matches)
» Zero commercial interruption
RIGHT from the site, you's trollin
They changed it after this thread was posted. Please don't look like an idiot posting things like this.
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so i pay AND i have to endure commercials? bastards! ^^
nah, not gonna pay for this. i stick with gsl thx tho...
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Not paying for something i watch online ever.
And im not paying for anything with commercials either
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I kinda miss the booth concept, but realistically its not possible anyway. Anyway, I voted no, simply like most of the people here, I do not know what to expect. There are so much things that are unknown to us right now and I am not really a risk taker myself either. I hope that the crew of the NASL would shed some light on more stuff to let the general audience know abit more >.<.
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Ok, here is my opinion on the hole thing, western eSports and all.
GSL established a precedent with the pay per view for HQ live and for VODS. This was controvercial at first and maybe it still is. The thing is though, GSL has a frekin TV company behind them. True professionals, the best casters in the world, the best players in the world, a every day lan/ live event. Even so, there have been problems here and there particularly in the first seasons. Is it free in Korea by any chance?
Now, in the west, the same model is being copied. Unfortunately, amateurs are doing this things (compared to professional TV people), the end product, even for a company with somewhat experience like MLG, the resulting product is ... very bad. Completely untested venues, line NASL, that had a very ugly start (the show match) start of with the same "demands" from their costumers as a very professional/ blizzard backed GSL.
If eSports is to really grow in the west, the way we all want, i think things have to change. Mentality wise.
1) Only the "hard core" will even consider buying a ticket. When the "market" is so "young", with, presumably, vast potential to expand, this is a huge, huge problem. (hei ""friend nr 1, casual SC2 player", there was this super cool game last night in the NASL,blah blah. You have to buy a season ticket to see it though." Friend: "yeah right, no way"
2) The "market" of eSports is made of people between 12-30yo. By the nature of it, they simply do not have the money to spend on all this tournaments, production value aside. However, this is exactly the "market" for everything computer related (accessories, graphics cards, etc) soft drinks/ beer etc.
In conclusion, the way to grow eSports in the west, IMHO, is by attracting sponsors and get rid of "pay per view" . Maybe in a few years when the market will be saturated, PPV will have a case. As it stands, i think it is damaging eSports.
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Wow...lol at how all the guys saying they won't pay will be the same guys complaining about the state of esports. You're damn right I'll pay $20 for a 3 month season. I wouldn't miss this for the world.
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I will pay for the stream after I see how well they can pull their stuff togther. From what I have seen so far from Inc and Gretorp, they are constantly out of sync in replays.
If they can prove that these issues will not take place, I will pay for the HD.
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