EPTIs SC skill natural or trained? - Page 16
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Sensator
Australia377 Posts
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Wr3k
Canada2533 Posts
On March 23 2011 09:09 Sensator wrote: All skill is trained, it's just a fact. Agreed, no one is born better at SC than another. The one who grows up training hand eye coordination, quick thinking, and strategic decision making will obviously have an innate advantage over the one who doesn't though. Practice time does not directly correlate to ladder rank, but the more someone practices the better they will be. Once someone hits the cap of mechanical ability and general knowledge their talent will show through. | ||
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hitman133
United States1425 Posts
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Noob4hire
United States38 Posts
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B-Wong
United States240 Posts
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PowerKock
46 Posts
Some people with the exact same amount of practice, by the exact same coach. Some people will grasp the concept a lot faster than others. Some people are just naturally gifted. For example, when it comes to sports. Say MMA for example. Some guys are born with the natural "Knock out power" without very much training. A guy in the same weight division could have been practicing Muay Thai for dozens of years, has all the technique in the world, but Never in his life could develope that Knock out Punch. Anyone who follows the MMA world, not sure how many gamers do but, Randy Couture has been training boxing for over a decade now, he has never posessed that Huge ONE PUNCH KO power.... it cant be trained, its a gift. Where say a Young Mike Tyson at 18 Years of age with only a year or 2 of Training, Possessed some of the most lethal KO power ever. It was a god given gift. Where both fighters could have recieved the exact same amount of training, the exact same amount of technique. But one fighter was Naturally gifted. I could train my whole entire life, practice every single GOD damn day of my life. Will I ever beat that dude from Jamaica who won the 100m at the olympics? Bolt is his name. I would never ever come close. Even if we trained the same amount, and I practice 1349294932492394 hours, was the best shape of my life. Some stuff you just cant train. You are born with it. | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
On March 23 2011 04:18 Aterons_toss wrote: You are using your brain, an organ that we usually use at 10% of its capacity to determine if the opponent is going to proxy you or not ( based on the info you have ). You are using your body strength and your HEIGHT to make the pass in basketball. you don't use 10% of our brain, it's a myth. you don't use body strength and height to pass a basketball, have you never played? anyone can pass a ball decently hard (50% of the population) it's all about timing and if you want to make a great pass it requires court vision and smarts. if you are using your height why are point guards freaking 6 feet... come on | ||
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inFeZa
Australia556 Posts
I would have to say that it consists of both as you can have a natural awareness and understanding of the game, but you cant be born with timings, unit knowledge and build orders. | ||
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Chrissy
United States9 Posts
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Slago
Canada726 Posts
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fer
Canada375 Posts
No, in life you generally (read: always) have to learn / train things at any point in time. Some people will learn faster, some slower. So no, SC skill is not natural. | ||
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HomicidaL
United States283 Posts
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R A V
United States217 Posts
In Day9 daily 100 Sean told the story about how he spent a couple months playing like 12+ hours a day and he saw a considerable increase in his win rate vs someone who would regularly beat him. Grinding games (and obviously TRYING to get better through watching your own replays, etc) will make you better at Starcraft. | ||
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BluePanther
United States2776 Posts
For me, I've been top 100 in MMO's and Shooters. However, I'm pretty average at RTS and Fighters. I have great hand eye coordination and a high spacial cognition, but I'm terrible at technical stuff (lists, remembering to do little things). Each person is different, and they are going to peak in different ways. However, practice alone will not make you good at a game. You need to have a skill set that goes beyond practice to be good at a particular game. | ||
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manicshock
Canada741 Posts
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Verwi
Germany42 Posts
But in general I think one can become a very good player just by playing a lot. | ||
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HavoK.
United States172 Posts
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rfoster
United States1005 Posts
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PowerKock
46 Posts
YOU ARE ONLY AS GOOD AS THE PEOPLE YOU TRAIN WITH. During my wrestling career, I out grew my first team I trained with, then I eventually had to travel an hour or so everyday, to train with the university team to progress my skills. My skill leval once i switched training camps went through the roof, i had high leval guys to train with. say you went to train with a team of Diamond players for 12 hours a day 7 days a week vs a team of GSL S Code guys for 12 hours a day 7 days a week. | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4561 Posts
On March 22 2011 16:35 Nazarid wrote: I have to disagree completely with this quote, Natural skill is considered what you have before training, also this is not boxing/fighting, there are so many factors that are involved in fighting compared to playing a game where there is no physical limitation that cannot be overcome with training...as for the comment to flash, he is a great player and trains 10 hours a day to become what he was and is. he studies the game like you would for your masters degree picking it apart piece by piece, the only thing that would separate you from becoming a Pro, would be your intelligence, and your mental psychology. Those 2 things are the only thing that would separate you from the best if you trained just as hard and studied the game just as much. I guess we don't see eye-to-eye. Bear in mind, natural talent is different than natural skill. Talent carries you throughout your career which why if you get two fighters to do the exact same training regime and you get them to fight afterward, the one that wins 9/10 is the one who is naturally a better fighter. True, there are many more factors in fighting, though the principle still stands. I agree with you about Flash, though given the same amount of time & resources, natural talent & genes play their part once similar amounts of effort are put in. | ||
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