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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
Alternatively if I am a master player playing mostly GM people come the end of one season, I will recognize I have the potential to get into GM the next season and be really pushing to get up there before the new cutoff. Whether your Masters or Grand Masters, the majority of your opponents are most likely going to be Masters, since there are only 200 people in GM | ||
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KiF1rE
United States964 Posts
On March 18 2011 06:40 neo_sporin wrote: The only way is to wait until a new ladder season starts. Blizzard has stated that in future seasons (and maybe this one?) the final 2 weeks (approximation) of the season leagues will be locked with no promotion, demotion or bonus pool addition to allow for people to compete within their division. Similarly after the first 2 weeks of a new season once the GM division for the season has been decided, the division will be locked with no promotion or demotion (bonus pool will still exist). No one can be demoted from the GM (only 1 per server with 200 players) for playing badly, only inactivity. High Masters players will still want to compete for MMR's sake and getting into GM the next season. the problem i have with that is when people improve think about how long the ladder has went on already without a reset? which creates the problem what if someone technically is rank 1 but in masters =/ will there still be a top 200 list that compares the top two leagues? i know the situation is rare, but it could happen. say huk goes inactive doesnt start playing when the leagues are decided and rises up to rank 1 in the server. now the issue is the top 200 in the GM league are going to be arguably the most active players and 270 points to be demoted is close to like 3 weeks of no games at all. the only way i will personally be fine with the inactivity demotion would be if the seasons were short. And with blizzard, that never seems to be the case. granted yes high masters can fight over mmr etc, but if the new season doesnt come for a while there is practically no point to fighting over it. heres something for exalibur or someone that is good at analyzing and collecting data from the current top 200 lists. How many players have actually gone inactive to gain more than 270 bonus pool? | ||
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MERLIN.
Canada546 Posts
On March 18 2011 01:59 Chill wrote: He talks endless, ridiculous shit. Anyways, on topic: Once the slots are filled, you can never get in unless someone becomes inactive? That sounds pretty dumb. Gogo chill vs combat-ex day9daily youtube, best video ever made. You'll see how to really shit-talk. Ridiclous shit-talk. ggnore | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
the top 200 from this season, then every say month? they drop the bottom 50/100 then replace them witht he top 50/100 from diamond league | ||
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RHMVNovus
United States738 Posts
On March 18 2011 09:32 arb wrote: i wouldnt mind something like the top 200 from this season, then every say month? they drop the bottom 50/100 then replace them witht he top 50/100 from bronze league Reality TV show, friend. | ||
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SDream
Brazil896 Posts
On March 18 2011 09:18 KiF1rE wrote: heres something for exalibur or someone that is good at analyzing and collecting data from the current top 200 lists. How many players have actually gone inactive to gain more than 270 bonus pool? Current top 200 list world-wide has players with way more than 270 unspent bonus pool. If we discover a possible GM league offset we can consolidate master + grand master into a single list on sc2ranks. | ||
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KiF1rE
United States964 Posts
On March 18 2011 10:04 SDream wrote: Current top 200 list world-wide has players with way more than 270 unspent bonus pool. If we discover a possible GM league offset we can consolidate master + grand master into a single list on sc2ranks. been going through that and found quite a few, but say those players dont make the GM league because they have to many bonus points. the ones that do will probably be more active than those that do. that question when i was thinking of it was, taking the most active players and asking if they will stay active, and try to predict how many spots change over the course of time. then when players make it though, they could be pressured more to play and stay active, reducing the number of dropouts further. hopefully there isnt an offset, and blizzard doesnt over complicate the comparison between master and GM. | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12265 Posts
On March 18 2011 10:26 KiF1rE wrote: been going through that and found quite a few, but say those players dont make the GM league because they have to many bonus points. the ones that do will probably be more active than those that do. that question when i was thinking of it was, taking the most active players and asking if they will stay active, and try to predict how many spots change over the course of time. then when players make it though, they could be pressured more to play and stay active, reducing the number of dropouts further. hopefully there isnt an offset, and blizzard doesnt over complicate the comparison between master and GM. The present-day Top 200 is by points (we've seen some anomalies but they're quite rare). The Grandmaster League will be by MMR moving average (like any other league). There may be some differences between who's in the Top 200 versus who's in the GM League. | ||
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MacroKing
Canada298 Posts
On March 18 2011 01:51 Zelniq wrote: until the gameplay is at a level where combat-ex isn't in the top 10, the ladder will never be taken that seriously lol, I agree :D | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On March 18 2011 01:51 Zelniq wrote: until the gameplay is at a level where combat-ex isn't in the top 10, the ladder will never be taken that seriously It's like how a 60 apm map/production tab hacker (iGware) made his way to the top, despite facing gosus w/ 200+ apm. Just shows how basic the gameplay is right now. Maybe there'll be a time where multitasking actually gives a significant advantage. | ||
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
On March 18 2011 01:56 2GRe-Play- wrote: i think ppl are to rude with this guy, he just play unorthodoxes build and once in a while cannon rush that are part of the game. Did you watch his games vs Idra? He deserves the rudeness. | ||
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PanzerKing
United States483 Posts
On March 18 2011 01:14 Hoon wrote: I think they will make an achievement (Feats of Strength) at the end of each season for the Grandmasters, just like the top 0.2% from WoW arena, that get Gladiator achievements. .05%, not .2% =p | ||
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Philip2110
Scotland798 Posts
On March 18 2011 01:56 2GRe-Play- wrote: i think ppl are to rude with this guy, he just play unorthodoxes build and once in a while cannon rush that are part of the game. No, he deserves the hate he gets. It would be fine it he played "unorthodox" builds but he does it while swearing at you. On topic, its cool that the gm league is coming in. Even if it isnt filled with the best players | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On March 18 2011 01:51 Zelniq wrote: until the gameplay is at a level where combat-ex isn't in the top 10, the ladder will never be taken that seriously Sorry I had to quote this for hilarity. | ||
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
Every now and then I see him sniping people on streams, gotta wonder half the time if he's listening in or not. Fucking Combat-ex- lol. MY DICK THAT IS. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5714 Posts
On March 18 2011 01:56 2GRe-Play- wrote: i think ppl are to rude with this guy, he just play unorthodoxes build and once in a while cannon rush that are part of the game. Did you watch Idra's stream last night? He was so BM in all 3 games that Idra simply ignored him and didn't talk back to him, yes Idra actually ignored someone BM'ing him. He was basically spamming chat through each game calling Idra every name in the book along with insulting everything he could think of through the entire game from the first 6 drones to his eventual ragequit with no GG. | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12265 Posts
0.5%, not .05%. | ||
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shinarit
Hungary900 Posts
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Hoon
Brazil891 Posts
On March 18 2011 13:34 Zooper31 wrote: Did you watch Idra's stream last night? He was so BM in all 3 games that Idra simply ignored him and didn't talk back to him, yes Idra actually ignored someone BM'ing him. He was basically spamming chat through each game calling Idra every name in the book along with insulting everything he could think of through the entire game from the first 6 drones to his eventual ragequit with no GG. CombatEx was doing some hard trolling on Idra. He plays well tho. He just needs to play quiet and he will be respected. | ||
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JoxxOr
Sweden1502 Posts
On March 19 2011 09:34 Hoon wrote: CombatEx was doing some hard trolling on Idra. He plays well tho. He just needs to play quiet and he will be respected. There is a difference between spamming a little and joking around. However combat-ex is taking it way beyond that. I dont really care for general shit talk and trolling, most of the times its actually quite fun or easy to ignore. The problem with combat-ex though is that he is relentless with his trolling/bming, attacking almost any pro in sight. If you ever wathed incontrol stream i think you will know why i say that i hope that piece of shit never make an impact in this scene | ||
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