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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25988 Posts
March 17 2011 16:59 GMT
#21
On March 18 2011 01:56 2GRe-Play- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 01:51 Zelniq wrote:
On March 18 2011 01:25 Wolf wrote:
Wow, finally! A league that matters. How badass is it going to be to tell people "Yeah, I'm a Grandmaster" ?

until the gameplay is at a level where combat-ex isn't in the top 10, the ladder will never be taken that seriously


i think ppl are to rude with this guy, he just play unorthodoxes build and once in a while cannon rush
that are part of the game.

He talks endless, ridiculous shit.

Anyways, on topic: Once the slots are filled, you can never get in unless someone becomes inactive? That sounds pretty dumb.
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Talanthalos
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany153 Posts
March 17 2011 17:00 GMT
#22
On March 18 2011 01:59 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 01:56 2GRe-Play- wrote:
On March 18 2011 01:51 Zelniq wrote:
On March 18 2011 01:25 Wolf wrote:
Wow, finally! A league that matters. How badass is it going to be to tell people "Yeah, I'm a Grandmaster" ?

until the gameplay is at a level where combat-ex isn't in the top 10, the ladder will never be taken that seriously


i think ppl are to rude with this guy, he just play unorthodoxes build and once in a while cannon rush
that are part of the game.

He talks endless, ridiculous shit.

Anyways, on topic: Once the slots are filled, you can never get in unless someone becomes inactive? That sounds pretty dumb.

thats how it has been in wc3 with the proleague. given that seasons only last 3 months, this isnt a big deal
GrackGyver
Profile Joined March 2011
61 Posts
March 17 2011 17:04 GMT
#23
On March 18 2011 01:56 2GRe-Play- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 01:51 Zelniq wrote:
On March 18 2011 01:25 Wolf wrote:
Wow, finally! A league that matters. How badass is it going to be to tell people "Yeah, I'm a Grandmaster" ?

until the gameplay is at a level where combat-ex isn't in the top 10, the ladder will never be taken that seriously


i think ppl are to rude with this guy, he just play unorthodoxes build and once in a while cannon rush
that are part of the game.


I guess if unorthodox builds are about spamming the shit out of your opponent with trash talk HOPING to throw them off or what have you, then he plays unorthodox builds.

Wonder how well that would work out in a LAN tournament.
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
March 17 2011 17:05 GMT
#24
If you're in the top 200, your MMR is pretty damn high, and you're playing quite well. Even if you do abusive strategies-- If they work, they work. If Combat-EX-esque (maybe I should call it Combat-EXque) players are still winning in the top 200, but shouldn't be 'taken seriously', then they won't last long once the game develops because better players will end up knocking them down. I don't really think it's fair to rip on anyone in the top 200 unless they're a hacker. BM?

Block communication. ez
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/proxywolf
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Jotoco
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1342 Posts
March 17 2011 17:06 GMT
#25
On March 18 2011 01:51 Zelniq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 01:25 Wolf wrote:
Wow, finally! A league that matters. How badass is it going to be to tell people "Yeah, I'm a Grandmaster" ?

until the gameplay is at a level where combat-ex isn't in the top 10, the ladder will never be taken that seriously


He cheats. He doesn't count.

+ Show Spoiler +
Bare minimum he was Stream cheating Idra last night, he said what Idra was building at least some times in those matches, like in the first match he said: "Mass speedlings won't work" just as Idras lings were poping in his base.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
March 17 2011 17:07 GMT
#26
On March 18 2011 01:56 2GRe-Play- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 01:51 Zelniq wrote:
On March 18 2011 01:25 Wolf wrote:
Wow, finally! A league that matters. How badass is it going to be to tell people "Yeah, I'm a Grandmaster" ?

until the gameplay is at a level where combat-ex isn't in the top 10, the ladder will never be taken that seriously


i think ppl are to rude with this guy, he just play unorthodoxes build and once in a while cannon rush
that are part of the game.


Lol, you obviously need to do some research on who that kid is.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 17 2011 17:08 GMT
#27
Ooh, very nice.
I won't get in obviously, but I enjoy the extra layer of feat that I need to accomplish!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
March 17 2011 17:09 GMT
#28
On March 18 2011 02:06 Jotoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 01:51 Zelniq wrote:
On March 18 2011 01:25 Wolf wrote:
Wow, finally! A league that matters. How badass is it going to be to tell people "Yeah, I'm a Grandmaster" ?

until the gameplay is at a level where combat-ex isn't in the top 10, the ladder will never be taken that seriously


He cheats. He doesn't count.

+ Show Spoiler +
Bare minimum he was Stream cheating Idra last night, he said what Idra was building at least some times in those matches, like in the first match he said: "Mass speedlings won't work" just as Idras lings were poping in his base.


thats funny because streams are on delays... So his comment would have been after those lings were already hatched.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
March 17 2011 17:09 GMT
#29
On March 18 2011 02:06 Jotoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 01:51 Zelniq wrote:
On March 18 2011 01:25 Wolf wrote:
Wow, finally! A league that matters. How badass is it going to be to tell people "Yeah, I'm a Grandmaster" ?

until the gameplay is at a level where combat-ex isn't in the top 10, the ladder will never be taken that seriously


He cheats. He doesn't count.

+ Show Spoiler +
Bare minimum he was Stream cheating Idra last night, he said what Idra was building at least some times in those matches, like in the first match he said: "Mass speedlings won't work" just as Idras lings were poping in his base.


I think this is pretty unethical, but stream cheaters will always exist. Literally nothing you can do about it, except ban from tournaments, rendering ladder pointless. IdrA could have also queue dodged him quite easily.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/proxywolf
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
March 17 2011 17:10 GMT
#30
Anyone know what we stand to gain by being at the top of the ladder? Are Blizzcon invites going to be determined by ladder? Is Blizzard going to run SC2 tournaments?
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
March 17 2011 17:11 GMT
#31
yea combatex proxy gates or cannon rushes me 90% of the games i play him
ShadowLegacy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada55 Posts
March 17 2011 17:12 GMT
#32
On March 18 2011 02:10 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Anyone know what we stand to gain by being at the top of the ladder? Are Blizzcon invites going to be determined by ladder? Is Blizzard going to run SC2 tournaments?


I think it would be safe to assume as much. They are slow at getting the "End Plan" online but one can only think that this is a step in that direction. I may be crazy but I think they mentioned ladder tournaments and blizzcon yada yada yada.

On a side note, Nony give me your powers ?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 17 2011 17:12 GMT
#33
On March 18 2011 02:10 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Anyone know what we stand to gain by being at the top of the ladder? Are Blizzcon invites going to be determined by ladder? Is Blizzard going to run SC2 tournaments?


Were the last Blizzcon invites based on top200?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
GrackGyver
Profile Joined March 2011
61 Posts
March 17 2011 17:14 GMT
#34
This whole grandmaster league thing seems kind of meh, because the best players, who are going to be practicing the most and attend the most events are likely not going to have the time to top the ladder.

And yeah from what I gather Blizzcon invites are at least partly ladder based, plus some guests?
Talanthalos
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany153 Posts
March 17 2011 17:15 GMT
#35
On March 18 2011 02:10 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Anyone know what we stand to gain by being at the top of the ladder? Are Blizzcon invites going to be determined by ladder? Is Blizzard going to run SC2 tournaments?

in wc3 was a similar liga called proleague. they top8 of every realm got invited to regional qualifiers, where the top2 qualified fpr blizzcom.
i guess it will be like that again
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
March 17 2011 17:15 GMT
#36
On March 18 2011 02:12 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 02:10 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Anyone know what we stand to gain by being at the top of the ladder? Are Blizzcon invites going to be determined by ladder? Is Blizzard going to run SC2 tournaments?


Were the last Blizzcon invites based on top200?

NA invites (Huk and Select) were based on ladder, yeah. Other regions got bracket qualifiers and the players invited to play in the qualifier were based on ladder.

I wonder if it's possible to be #1 on the ladder from Masters league.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
March 17 2011 17:15 GMT
#37
It is a mystery..

I'm sure Blizzard doesn't even know themselves, and I think it's safe to assume nothing and that Blizzcon invites will be another hidden, cryptic process unless otherwise specifically told by Blizz
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 17 2011 17:16 GMT
#38
My guess is that they go based on their own ladder alongside tournament exposure and win.
A little of both perhaps?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Jotoco
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1342 Posts
March 17 2011 17:17 GMT
#39
On March 18 2011 02:09 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 02:06 Jotoco wrote:
On March 18 2011 01:51 Zelniq wrote:
On March 18 2011 01:25 Wolf wrote:
Wow, finally! A league that matters. How badass is it going to be to tell people "Yeah, I'm a Grandmaster" ?

until the gameplay is at a level where combat-ex isn't in the top 10, the ladder will never be taken that seriously


He cheats. He doesn't count.

+ Show Spoiler +
Bare minimum he was Stream cheating Idra last night, he said what Idra was building at least some times in those matches, like in the first match he said: "Mass speedlings won't work" just as Idras lings were poping in his base.


thats funny because streams are on delays... So his comment would have been after those lings were already hatched.


Don't forget they take time to build.

And it was a little bit forced on my part. The lings were actually half-way to CombatEX's base. Watch the VODs later, if you have any doubts.
EliteReplay
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Dominican Republic913 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-17 17:20:17
March 17 2011 17:19 GMT
#40
On March 18 2011 02:11 JiYan wrote:
yea combatex proxy gates or cannon rushes me 90% of the games i play him


well if u know that u can prepared and win dont u?
i know cannons and proxy are valid strat if not why do koreans do it?
if play random i can't call any race imba?
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