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Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
March 17 2011 18:38 GMT
#61
Surely once these 200 players are out of masters I will finally be promoted!
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
March 17 2011 18:42 GMT
#62
I am sure this will end up determining who gets to go to Blizzcon, WC3 ladder was used this way back when it was Blizzard's main RTS.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
March 17 2011 20:37 GMT
#63
270 pts is very appropriate for a limit on bonus pool. Looking forward to the league - even though I wont be in it.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Weasel-
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1556 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-17 20:46:14
March 17 2011 20:45 GMT
#64
On March 18 2011 01:14 Hoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 01:12 UnRealXenoth wrote:
Heh, thanks Heraklitus, I was wondering what the source was

I wonder if you have been grandmaster before, but don't keep it, that your profile indicates this somehow. Seems like a lot of people, especially near the bottom, will move in and out of the league.

I think they will make an achievement (Feats of Strength) at the end of each season for the Grandmasters, just like the top 0.2% from WoW arena, that get Gladiator achievements.

I hope there are titles.

Reading through the thread atm to find out when current season ends, anybody know?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 17 2011 20:45 GMT
#65
Grr was hoping they would remove bonus pool but sadly not
When I think of something else, something will go here
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
March 17 2011 20:47 GMT
#66
less than 180 bonus pool??

damn, i have over 2500, i dont know how i'm gonna empty that :/
bonus pool racks up faster than i can play
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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12237 Posts
March 17 2011 21:04 GMT
#67
On March 18 2011 05:47 jinorazi wrote:
less than 180 bonus pool??

damn, i have over 2500, i dont know how i'm gonna empty that :/
bonus pool racks up faster than i can play


Bonus pool gets wiped when the new season rolls out.
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Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
March 17 2011 21:06 GMT
#68
please remove bonus pool bullshit, please
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
March 17 2011 21:17 GMT
#69
When does the current season end?
KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
March 17 2011 21:27 GMT
#70
hopefully there is a way to get demoted or promoted based on skill alone and not including the activity of some other random player going inactive... as the bottom of the top 200 fluctuates quite a bit. =/
neo_sporin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States516 Posts
March 17 2011 21:40 GMT
#71
On March 18 2011 06:27 KiF1rE wrote:
hopefully there is a way to get demoted or promoted based on skill alone and not including the activity of some other random player going inactive... as the bottom of the top 200 fluctuates quite a bit. =/


The only way is to wait until a new ladder season starts. Blizzard has stated that in future seasons (and maybe this one?) the final 2 weeks (approximation) of the season leagues will be locked with no promotion, demotion or bonus pool addition to allow for people to compete within their division.

Similarly after the first 2 weeks of a new season once the GM division for the season has been decided, the division will be locked with no promotion or demotion (bonus pool will still exist). No one can be demoted from the GM (only 1 per server with 200 players) for playing badly, only inactivity. High Masters players will still want to compete for MMR's sake and getting into GM the next season.

vervejl
Profile Joined October 2010
United States55 Posts
March 17 2011 21:40 GMT
#72
bump on hmunkey.

I wonder when this will occur. does it look like the last two weeks of March?
the 4 "S" rule, supply, scv, scout, and spend ^_^
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
March 17 2011 21:44 GMT
#73
On March 18 2011 06:40 neo_sporin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 06:27 KiF1rE wrote:
hopefully there is a way to get demoted or promoted based on skill alone and not including the activity of some other random player going inactive... as the bottom of the top 200 fluctuates quite a bit. =/


The only way is to wait until a new ladder season starts. Blizzard has stated that in future seasons (and maybe this one?) the final 2 weeks (approximation) of the season leagues will be locked with no promotion, demotion or bonus pool addition to allow for people to compete within their division.

Similarly after the first 2 weeks of a new season once the GM division for the season has been decided, the division will be locked with no promotion or demotion (bonus pool will still exist). No one can be demoted from the GM (only 1 per server with 200 players) for playing badly, only inactivity. High Masters players will still want to compete for MMR's sake and getting into GM the next season.



Right, exactly. Blizzard has stated that MMR will persist between seasons. So it's not like a race to the top within the first 2 weeks of a season.
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
March 17 2011 21:47 GMT
#74
On March 18 2011 01:14 Hoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 01:12 UnRealXenoth wrote:
Heh, thanks Heraklitus, I was wondering what the source was

I wonder if you have been grandmaster before, but don't keep it, that your profile indicates this somehow. Seems like a lot of people, especially near the bottom, will move in and out of the league.

I think they will make an achievement (Feats of Strength) at the end of each season for the Grandmasters, just like the top 0.2% from WoW arena, that get Gladiator achievements.


I wonder if each season gets rewarded a special Feats of Strength haha. Relentless Grandmaster, Brutal Grandmaster, Merciless Grandmaster! etc
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
Noev
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1105 Posts
March 17 2011 21:49 GMT
#75
Interesting to see them explaining the system and talking about the season length, i look forward to this really getting refined and set to a specific amount of time so we now how much time is left in a season and i really like the grandmaster system i think the inactivity part of it will be key to keeping the most active players on top, but i do see a problem in that often times best players don't have the time to ladder.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
March 17 2011 22:01 GMT
#76
On March 18 2011 06:04 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 05:47 jinorazi wrote:
less than 180 bonus pool??

damn, i have over 2500, i dont know how i'm gonna empty that :/
bonus pool racks up faster than i can play


Bonus pool gets wiped when the new season rolls out.

How long is a season? Are there set dates etc?

On March 18 2011 01:51 Zelniq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 01:25 Wolf wrote:
Wow, finally! A league that matters. How badass is it going to be to tell people "Yeah, I'm a Grandmaster" ?

until the gameplay is at a level where combat-ex isn't in the top 10, the ladder will never be taken that seriously

All i could do was lol at how true this statement was.
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
March 17 2011 22:26 GMT
#77
Surely people can be promoted mid season? What happens if 80 people drop out due to bonus pool accumulation? The top 200 becomes too 120?
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12237 Posts
March 17 2011 22:55 GMT
#78
On March 18 2011 07:26 Ryder. wrote:
Surely people can be promoted mid season? What happens if 80 people drop out due to bonus pool accumulation? The top 200 becomes too 120?


Well then obviously the next highest 80 MMR-moving-avg people-with-below-180-bonus-pool would take their place.
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Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-17 23:08:02
March 17 2011 23:07 GMT
#79
I don't think the pros really give a shit about this, insofar as "epeen" goes. Tournament results are what matters.

This is the equivalent of an A+ guy on ICCup...who cares when you still get wrecked by a random proleaguer.
neo_sporin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States516 Posts
March 17 2011 23:40 GMT
#80
On March 18 2011 06:44 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 06:40 neo_sporin wrote:
On March 18 2011 06:27 KiF1rE wrote:
hopefully there is a way to get demoted or promoted based on skill alone and not including the activity of some other random player going inactive... as the bottom of the top 200 fluctuates quite a bit. =/


The only way is to wait until a new ladder season starts. Blizzard has stated that in future seasons (and maybe this one?) the final 2 weeks (approximation) of the season leagues will be locked with no promotion, demotion or bonus pool addition to allow for people to compete within their division.

Similarly after the first 2 weeks of a new season once the GM division for the season has been decided, the division will be locked with no promotion or demotion (bonus pool will still exist). No one can be demoted from the GM (only 1 per server with 200 players) for playing badly, only inactivity. High Masters players will still want to compete for MMR's sake and getting into GM the next season.



Right, exactly. Blizzard has stated that MMR will persist between seasons. So it's not like a race to the top within the first 2 weeks of a season.


For some people it will be though. For example:
If I am a GM player who has floundered the last weeks of the season and am now mostly playing master level players at the start of a new season I will recognize my GM spot is in trouble and race to raise my MMR as fast as possible.
Alternatively if I am a master player playing mostly GM people come the end of one season, I will recognize I have the potential to get into GM the next season and be really pushing to get up there before the new cutoff.

I agree that pro players will not care because they are recognized as the top anyways and they could be in masters for all they care as long as they get tourney results, but to say people won't be racing during the 2 weeks to get up to the GM cutoff that is invisible is just silly.


On a side note I do feel sorry for people that are on the edge and don't make it because they wont know how far they missed it by and will be playing people who got in that they may be "better" than in a 1v1 matchup but not MMR.
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