EPTMLG 2011 Competition Format Changes - Page 4
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Elite_Fury
United States17 Posts
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On February 26 2011 09:19 Slasher wrote: Maps will be announced sometime next week. Hey Slasher whats the status of Quake in MLG? Sundance already told me he had a couple meetings with id already. | ||
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Blondinbengt
Sweden578 Posts
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JoxxOr
Sweden1502 Posts
On February 26 2011 09:35 Doraemon.doraemon wrote: won't be boring for spectators as the top 16 will play each other right away while the open bracket is going on... but it is indeed very difficult to crack the top as a new comer with no points Well then no one will care about the 256 and only championship bracket. Like seriously, why not do an open double elim bracket where past players get seeded high and face people who arent seeded... If they are truly the best ,then the should beat non-seeded players easy... | ||
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godemperor
Belgium2043 Posts
On February 26 2011 09:40 Blondinbengt wrote: It kind of feels like MLG is trying to have an entire season of code A+S in one weekend and I really think this tournament structure will make it really unattractive for euros/koreans. My thoughts exactly, the number of game a player needs to play in a day to get into the championship is insane. | ||
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MythicalMage
1360 Posts
On February 26 2011 09:41 JoxxOr wrote: Well then no one will care about the 256 and only championship bracket. Like seriously, why not do an open double elim bracket where past players get seeded high and face people who arent seeded... If they are truly the best ,then the should beat non-seeded players easy... Yep. Some of my favorite games were seeing the randoms do well and the like. Guess they'll be none of that anymore. | ||
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Harbinger631
United States376 Posts
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On February 26 2011 09:41 JoxxOr wrote: Well then no one will care about the 256 and only championship bracket. Like seriously, why not do an open double elim bracket where past players get seeded high and face people who arent seeded... If they are truly the best ,then the should beat non-seeded players easy... You're not supposed to care about the open bracket early rounds. The open bracket early rounds by their nature will have a lot of people who aren't of high quality that nobody will really want to watch. So instead you shift your focus elsewhere. I like the format a decent amount, don't love it. My bigger issue is the handling of seeds after only 1/2 of a season. I mean, it would take a full season, but at the same time I don't think they want to sit with their hands in their pockets another year waiting for things to get sorted out. | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
On February 26 2011 09:04 Slasher wrote: If two teams meet in the Championship Bracket after meeting in the Open Bracket, they will play an extended series Was this copy pasted from the Halo rules? No but seriously, I don't like this system. Being one of the top16 players is a huge advantage.The distinction between the 16th ranked player and the 17th ranked player is almost non-existent, but the 16th ranked player will, with almost absolute certainty, do much better in the tournament. It's not competition on an even footing, so I don't like it. The whole point of competing is that you do it in a fair way, where the same rules applies to everyone. If you are the best then you will win. You shouldn't get better results because the tournament favoured you. When you seed someone that's not changing the terms on which you compete, but when you say that this player has ton win 10 games more to win the tournament then the accomplishment of winning is not equal for everyone. It's like if the reigning champion got an extra life in the tournament, just 'cause. It's silly. On February 26 2011 09:04 Slasher wrote: Both games will feature Open Brackets, Pool Play, and a Championship Bracket. The only major difference between the two is that StarCraft 2 will feature a best-of-three series in all portions of the tournament, while Halo: Reach will feature a best-of-three Open Bracket and a best-of-five Championship Bracket. Including finals? What about pool play? There you explicitly stated Bo5 | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On February 26 2011 09:43 I_Love_Bacon wrote: You're not supposed to care about the open bracket early rounds. The open bracket early rounds by their nature will have a lot of people who aren't of high quality that nobody will really want to watch. So instead you shift your focus elsewhere. I like the format a decent amount, don't love it. My bigger issue is the handling of seeds after only 1/2 of a season. I mean, it would take a full season, but at the same time I don't think they want to sit with their hands in their pockets another year waiting for things to get sorted out. Yeah, but this also means top level Europeans and Koreans will not participate in MLG due to the unfavored nature of the Open Bracket. | ||
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mprs
Canada2933 Posts
On February 26 2011 09:26 Arch00 wrote: This kind of sucks, I'm going to MLG Dallas this year and I was looking forward to getting destroyed by the top players in my first two series. Now the top 16 get byes? Blah I would imagine there are other great players there to destroy you  | ||
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MythicalMage
1360 Posts
On February 26 2011 09:42 Harbinger631 wrote: I like the new format. It means I won't have to watch my favorite players wade through cheesy games and noobs. Seeding is vital too for any competitive experience. Seeding? Sure. Excluding the vast majority of people at the tournament? I beg to differ. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On February 26 2011 09:45 ptbl wrote: Yeah, but this also means top level Europeans and Koreans will not participate in MLG due to the unfavored nature of the Open Bracket. Don't look at it as a hinderance, instead just look at it as a gigantic open bracket. They still have to play through an open bracket whether it's this format or the old format. The only difference is that some of their opponents wont have to. It's not much more of a gamble than it was before. | ||
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
On February 26 2011 09:25 QuothTheRaven wrote: I'm disappointed to see extended series is still around and the final is still a Bo3, but I suppose we'll just have to live with it. Overall things are looking great for 2011; here's hoping we'll see some epic games! Halo matches last like exactly 15 minutes each. Bo5 means at most 1 hr 15 minute finals. Bo5 for starcraft can means 5 30 minute matches, or up to 3 hr finals. Statistically, the odds of winning a best of 5 if you win a best of 3 is like 90%. | ||
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Castrophy
United States232 Posts
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Doraemon.doraemon
United States335 Posts
On February 26 2011 09:41 JoxxOr wrote: Well then no one will care about the 256 and only championship bracket. Like seriously, why not do an open double elim bracket where past players get seeded high and face people who arent seeded... If they are truly the best ,then the should beat non-seeded players easy... well if the nonseeded player truly deserve to be in the championship round, he will get there right? it's the samething as the GSL protecting their top 16 code S players... i kinda like this format... but to each his own... i like the fact i don't have to wait out the first hour or 2 of the MLG cuz either it's noob vs noob or a pro completely rolling a noob... (when i say noob, they are all way better than me) | ||
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MythicalMage
1360 Posts
On February 26 2011 09:48 Doraemon.doraemon wrote: well if the nonseeded player truly deserve to be in the championship round, he will get there right? it's the samething as the GSL protecting their top 16 code S players... i kinda like this format... but to each his own... i like the fact i don't have to wait out the first hour or 2 of the MLG cuz either it's noob vs noob or a pro completely rolling a noob... (when i say noob, they are all way better than me) It's a DRASTICALLY unfair advantage given to seeded players, just due to the number of games they don't have to play. And unlike GSL there's no up and down match system, and it's not in groups either. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On February 26 2011 09:47 darmousseh wrote: Halo matches last like exactly 15 minutes each. Bo5 means at most 1 hr 15 minute finals. Bo5 for starcraft can means 5 30 minute matches, or up to 3 hr finals. Statistically, the odds of winning a best of 5 if you win a best of 3 is like 90%. You really have to provide a reliable source if you want to play the statistics card. | ||
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