I am dying to play the new maps because the maps have become so old and boring, this will bring a fresh breath to the ladder.

However, I don't understand some things. Someone please explain, because I'm really perplexed.

1) Why do close positions exist? What is the point? Close positions promote cheese and all-in, you can't expand because the guy is right in front of your face, you can't take a third and even if you can, you can't defend it. I don't understand. I could understand if it wasn't possible to remove the close position spawns, but as it can be seen from Shakuras, it is possible to remove the chance of spawning close. Then why on earth are there close positions on every map? Just why? How will this make the game better? How does this create an enjoyable game?

2) Why keep Delta Quadrant and remove Shakuras Plataeu? Is this some sort of joke? You can't find a single person pro or not liking this horrible map, and Shakuras is usually well received by most. I want to cry out "What were they thinking?" in James Rolfe's voice.

3) The destructible rocks. Why are they so against expanding and so in favour of opening more attack paths?

Weasel-

Canada1556 Posts

February 26 2011 01:19 GMT

#323

Shattered Temple looks good if they add the shakuras plateau spawn condition to it.
Also lol at all the rocks on these maps, ugh.

mprs

Canada2933 Posts

February 26 2011 01:22 GMT

#324

I don't see how delta quadrant isn't at the top of every "map removal" discussion they have.

I don't think a single pro player likes that map of any race. Its just god awful. Then they come out and do the exact opposite by removing the best map from the pool.

I don't care about the decision, I just want to UNDERSTAND

JasperGrimm

Canada100 Posts

February 26 2011 01:26 GMT

#325

Seems like Blizzard could mail 10 dollar refunds to every player on bnet, and people would complain that their bill was dirty or had a corner ripped off

Turbo.Tactics

Germany675 Posts

February 26 2011 01:28 GMT

#326

I hate Slag Pits already... I'm fine with Delta since there are at least 4 gold expansions but Slag looks like Delta only with less expansions and without space for my Mutas.

Yergidy

United States2107 Posts

February 26 2011 01:32 GMT

#327

Do not understand their reasoning to keep Delta Quadrant and take out Shakuras...

Shakuras was my favorite map.

Dali.

New Zealand689 Posts

February 26 2011 01:33 GMT

#328

On February 26 2011 10:26 JasperGrimm wrote:
Seems like Blizzard could mail 10 dollar refunds to every player on bnet, and people would complain that their bill was dirty or had a corner ripped off

Dude, most players could probably sue Blizzard for emotional trauma and have a decent shot at a payout.

FortuneSyn

1826 Posts

February 26 2011 01:34 GMT

#329

I'm so happy they took shakuras out. It was hell for zerg.

Atrophy

21 Posts

February 26 2011 01:36 GMT

#330

Slag Pits is awful

andrewwiggin

Australia435 Posts

February 26 2011 01:41 GMT

#331

Hated Shakuras. Could never expand to thirds properly.

Oh and mutas. -_- Big map = great for control with mutas. brrrrr!

Yotta

United States270 Posts

February 26 2011 01:49 GMT

#332

yeah, if they took away the 20 dollar bill we had and replaced it with the shitty 10 while leaving their used tissue on the counter.

the 20 dollar bill is shakuras
the 10 is the new maps
the used tissue is delta quadrant

by explaining my joke i made it funnier

SC2Phoenix

Canada2814 Posts

February 26 2011 01:49 GMT

#333

Just when I thought blizzard were understanding maps a little better and would make more zerg friendly maps, I get slapped in the face. Well time to go back to protoss.

MrRicewife

Canada515 Posts

February 26 2011 01:54 GMT

#334

Shattered temple looks so tight.. wow.

StarSense

206 Posts

February 26 2011 01:55 GMT

#335

Dear Blizzard:

Stop thinking your mapmakers can create something worthwhile with their random close/far spawns and destructible rocks littering the map. Leave it to those who know how, and put those in. DO NOT CATER TO NEWBIES, OR THEY WILL NEVER GET BETTER.

Sincerely,
Me

Garnet

Vietnam9036 Posts

February 26 2011 01:59 GMT

#336

imo they removed Shakuras because not being able to spawn close positions is kinda unfair to people who don't know about it.

Mastermind

Canada7096 Posts

February 26 2011 02:00 GMT

#337

They removed Shakuras?? Are you fucking serious? I am pissed. That was such a good map. That was one of the top 2 maps in the ladder pool. 2 of the new maps are total shit imo. Shattered temple is a nice map and not sure about the 4th new one yet.

edit:
I did a 2 base push pvz on slag, and I didnt even need to build a proxy pylon because our nats were so damn close. What a joke of a map.

joshboy42

Australia116 Posts

February 26 2011 02:00 GMT

#338

I just complained about the shakuras removal on the battle.net forums and for some reason, as soon as I get a reply from a blue saying to be more constructive, I conveniently get an error every time I try to make a post.

Glad to hear I'm not the only one bewildered by Blizzard's thought process

foo

Australia109 Posts

February 26 2011 02:02 GMT

#339

uh, so many destructable rocks...

really think zerg are going to excel on these maps with speedling builds opening up lots of attack routes hard to defend third bases...

*practices four gate*

Miragee

8657 Posts

February 26 2011 02:05 GMT

#340

Seems like the bill is not about the refundation of 10 dollar but the payment of 10 dollars....

On February 26 2011 10:41 andrewwiggin wrote:
Hated Shakuras. Could never expand to thirds properly.

Oh and mutas. -_- Big map = great for control with mutas. brrrrr!

So you hated the map because you are awful, that's ok.

Still there is one good thing the most of us dismissed: Blizzard _changed_ the mappool. It seems that it won't be like in WC 3 (from what I heard). So it's a good first step and we can hope in the next one we will get good maps.