EPTLooking for hand speed exercises.
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Steamboatlol
United States161 Posts
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + he even put his wrists on sandbags! | ||
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SnowSC2
United States678 Posts
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Sid(TB)
United States314 Posts
but on topic just try to focus on hitting buttons all game, for example tapping ur production hot keys (such as w for warpgates, 3 for robo, 4 for stargate, 5 for forge to check upgrades) and cycle though them over and over keeping up with when they are about to finish, watch workers 2 but thats obvious. eventually your left hand will always be moving to do this and gradually get faster, using screen location hot keys can also help you move faster and free up hot keys for other things. apm isnt everything, making use of all of your actions is more important. | ||
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Black[CAT]
Malaysia2589 Posts
If you can increase your typing speed, your fingers will be more nimble and fast and move more naturally, try to get at least 70 WPM. At least it works for me. Nothing wrong with wanting to increase APM, but this is the first time i heard of exercise request. Edit: Try play broodwar for 1 week, get yourself to 150 apm at least. That is slow in broodwar standards, but you'll notice that you'll be faster in sc2. It works, at least for me since i play broodwar, just tried sc2 since last week. I felt that I was too fast for sc2 | ||
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Silmakuoppaanikinko
799 Posts
APM is hardly caused by hand speed, if you click sooner or later, it's still one click, what's important is clicking multiple times, as in, doing multiple things at the same time. Training hand speed is only important when you realize you know that more things must be done than your fingers allow that you're 'omg, I want to do this, want to do this, have to this, but I just can't click fast enough'. Which is really seldom the case that the fingers become the liming factor rather than the mind. No one is incapable of in his or her fingers to get 60 APM, it's the mind that must be trained, not the fingers. Once you are aware of more stuff that has to be done APM will increase. | ||
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Mofisto
United Kingdom585 Posts
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SirKibbleX
United States479 Posts
Watch this. Day9 is a genius analyst and exceptional player, so you can trust his insight. The video will teach you all about mechanics like how to 'tap' your hotkeys and watch your minimap to achieve more battlefield awareness. With increased awareness, you'll be able to realize what needs to be done, and when, and that will improve your overall game speed. After watching it, play maybe 20 games against like medium AI and practice your openings, trying to incorporate everything from that video. Once you feel comfortable, try doing about 10 co-op games against AI. Your hands should be gradually getting faster and more precise because you've been practicing the most common motions from the game. The more games you play the better you'll be able to predict what will happen in advance and the slower the game will feel. Your hands will move more quickly and more surely. By the way, your keyboard does not matter. I go to school with Master Asia and he can destroy any of us with any keyboard and make it look effortless. If anything, I'd recommend you get a really cheap keyboard like a Logitech K120 and learn with that. | ||
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Steamboatlol
United States161 Posts
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Animostas
United States568 Posts
A zerg example would be (if you hotkey your queens to separate hotkeys, I don't know what's the most efficient) to hit 55v(click)66v(click), etc. in order to quickly inject your Hatcheries. High APM isn't about playing fast or having fast fingers; it's about knowing what you want to do and how to execute it as soon as possible. | ||
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trNimitz
204 Posts
http://vault.alienwarearena.com/video/mellowdarkness <3 http://vault.alienwarearena.com/video/nga-seido No seriously if you want to get faster you just are going to have to play more SC2. | ||
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Steamboatlol
United States161 Posts
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rei
United States3594 Posts
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Steamboatlol
United States161 Posts
On February 21 2011 19:00 rei wrote: hand speed is not the reason someone is playing fast, apm is a by-product of multitasking. When you get better at multitasking you will play in a higher apm. I know this. Like I said sometimes I know all the things I need to do but my hands can't keep up with what my head wants them to do. | ||
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legatus legionis
Netherlands559 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.smartgym.eu/images/gripmaster2.jpg) Maybe that is just good for sports but I remember that when you do a session of multiple hours, your hands get a lot less sore and during they feel more powerful and responsive. Its not really a big deal but I felt it did give some stamina basically. What I think is a big part in APM, is having an event qued up in your brain. If you don't know exactly what you are gonna do before you are gonna do it, there will obviously be a huge delay. Once you get that sorted that you will notice that in the string of events you are chaining together you actually become limited by how fast you are. This limit/restriction is what is gonna cause you to slowly power through it and improve. One way to focus on this is when you practice macro in say yabot and force yourself to never click on the buildings, never look at them, just micro a worker around the map constantly and rally your units to a different place of the map and move between them, spread em out stuff like that. I think overal what I'm trying to say is if you truly give it some thought and setup anyway to focus your practice on speed, that will find out the trick what works for you. And after you figure that out, who knows what you'll discover after  Good luck, you can do it! | ||
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pRo9aMeR
595 Posts
it will increase your mouse clicking speed and accuracy, though the skills will not neccessarily transfer over to sc2 have fun^^ | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
On February 21 2011 19:02 Steamboatlol wrote: I know this. Like I said sometimes I know all the things I need to do but my hands can't keep up with what my head wants them to do. You want to learn how to multitasking? knowing all the things you need to do but unable to do them in the right timing, is not because your hands can't keep up, it is because you are not assigning priority in to those different tasks. Let me know if you want lesson, my rate is 200 wow gold per hour, very cheap. | ||
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Powster
United States650 Posts
On February 21 2011 19:03 legatus legionis wrote: During high school at times I used to bring the gripmaster and use it furiously under the table, alternating between hands until it felt like my forearms were gonna explode. + Show Spoiler + lmfao.... lol.. that thing is pretty cool.. Anyway.. I suggest playing some songs on OSU that require quick and precise mouse accuracy. My second suggestion is.. spamming more. If you can spam and play normally at the same time eventually your spam will become actually actions. My 3rd suggestion is... just play more.. if you have done the same build exactly over and over eventually it will be so natural that you have spare time between things.. OR.. if your really looking for a hand speed exercise try something like.. 112233444433221144332211 over and over again.. while doing precise mouse drags.. | ||
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Audi309
United States90 Posts
*i'm not sure what race you play, but i know toss has a really good multitask trainer as an NA custom map. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
That being said I read this : On February 21 2011 19:02 Steamboatlol wrote: I know this. Like I said sometimes I know all the things I need to do but my hands can't keep up with what my head wants them to do. You think this is true, I know you REALLY do and I know you know your build very well and you are saying that well I have to control my units at this time and I need to do this macro action at the same time. If I was fast I would do them both at the same time but I try and I fail to do both or am forced to focus on just one task so I must not be fast. This is NOT the real issue that is happening! You are trying to do one or more tasks that you know you need to do in a way that does not allow for you to be quick when doing them. This a UI, mouse control, and hotkey topic all rolled up into one focal problem that many users have. Please read what follows carefully as I put some time into it and it really is a damn good answer to this feeling of being helplessly slow when knowing what you need to do. What you need for breaking your apm barrier of 60 apm is better control, not faster control. Find ways to use hotkeys more, move the mouse less, and to do each individual action with the least amount of excess movement or downtime and you will find that your apm will go way up. Want to know how to do exactly that? Take a tiny part of your play and refine it. Here is a step by step on how to do exactly that. I assume you are Zerg by your icon. Try this, go into a blank map. Make some lings and send them somewhere. Hotkey them to 1. Go to your base and either hotkey the main hatch to like 5 and the natural hatch to 6 (both hatches on 4 for making the units) or set a screen hotkey (aka the fkeys) so that one is over each hatch. Get a few drones at each base and one gas going at your main. Now press 11. Play with your lings. Get in the groove of it. Spread em out, move 2 over there and 4 over there. Just like keep them active. Now keep doing that and think about something that you normally do in a game. For this example lets say you want to take the 2 gas at your natural. You are still playin with the lings. Think about that 2 gas you want to take. Now move all your lings back to simulate a good little safe move back (say half a screen back to "safety"), use a hotkey (screen hotkey or double tap the hotkey for the hatch) to instantly go to your natural. Box two drones (or more), hit 'b' then 'v' (shift) (click on gas) (click on other gas) then double tap '1'. Thats what will make you a fast player. Being able to do things like this. Did you do it so fast you were able to be zoomed back at your lings before they had moved half a screen (about 1 or 2 seconds time im guessing)? No? Then go to your natural, cancel the 2 gas, double hit '1' and get your lings all moving and playing again. Think about what you are about to try. Keep the lings moving. Move lings to safe spot, zoom to nat, make the 2 gas with no wild mouse movements and as few keys used as possible, zoom to lings. This little exercise is based on teaching your to be able to be doing something (microing or scouting or positioning units in this case), think about what you want to do next in your build (take 2 gas in this case), move troops to a safe spot so that you have a few seconds of peace of mind where your troops will not be in danger, zoom to the area where you can do that next thing of your build, do it in a effecient manner (as few as possible clicks and mouse movements), and then zoom to the next task (in this case, going back to your lings before anything bad happens to them). If you do this example exactly, and you do it correctly, you should be able to zoom back to the lings and have them moving somewhere new before they stop moving to safety. This will make it look like they are always being controlled/microed to an obs or to the enemy. This is the sign of a fast player. I went and checked just to give you an idea of the 'hand speed' needed to do this by doing my example. While playing with my lings my apm was about 100. When I zoomed to my nat and made the stuff and zoomed back to my lings, it jumped to about 130 for a second and then was back to around 100. I tried it again after that trying to be as low apm as possible and still do it correctly. To test my execution speed of placing the 2 gas I made it a mental goal to only move the lings back about 1/8th of a screen size (lings move that in NO time) when going to go place the gas. I was able to keep the lings moving without them stopping, place the 2 gas, and zoom back to the lings before they stopped with around 50 apm. I am very sure that if you try this you will find you take around 5-10 seconds to place those 2 gas. Use accurate and sure mouse control and know by heart what you mean to do with your keyboard hand before you do it and you can do that step in WELL under one second without amazing handspeed. When doing the example and trying for low apm I was able to only spend ~1 second looking at my natural as I placed the 2 gas. I am very sure that my handspeed was much higher while typing this post then when I was doing the little drill. Its a mental thing, know that its not about speed but about memory and precision and good use of the UI. | ||
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