Interview with Code A caster KellyMilkies

On February 21 2011 18:37 Wilko wrote:
she actually has more game-knowledge than Artosis, so im completely fine with it

On February 21 2011 18:37 Wilko wrote: but she actually has more game-knowledge than Artosis, so im completely fine with it

On February 21 2011 18:37 Wilko wrote:
Her accent isn't worse than SuperDanielMans and he was the best caster on Gom-TV yet in my opinion
First i was sceptical, but she actually has more game-knowledge than Artosis, so im completely fine with it

On February 21 2011 18:37 WTL wrote:


Is that a joke?

On February 21 2011 18:37 Wilko wrote:
First i was sceptical, but she actually has more game-knowledge than Artosis, so im completely fine with it

On February 21 2011 18:44 Wilko wrote:


I don't wanna take away Artosis' vocal skills, they are just insane
But you should listen to her closely
She really knows what's going on all the time and (without being able to observe the game herself) and has really good game-understanding

On February 21 2011 18:44 gogogadgetflow wrote:
I can keep up with her accent just fine and IMO she's pretty easy on the eyes, which is refreshing to say the least.

No, she's not yet Artosis as far as commentary/entertainment goes but isn't that setting the standard a little too high? She can only get better as she settle's in.

oh thanks for the interview

On February 21 2011 19:07 Flyingpants wrote:
she should try to take some english classes, and perhaps stop ruining the entire GSL tournament.

Koreans don't like having a woman caster for the korean part, english speakers don't want a woman caster for the english part, how complicated is this to understand?

It's clearly obvious that the only reason she was picked is because shes a woman, marginally attractive, and because she is asian.

On February 21 2011 19:10 Justanx wrote:
Seriously, it seems that all these flames are about accent. However, the European casters accents are bad as well, hell but they are not speaking their native tongue. This is an international game. This is amazing that a game has touched the whole world. If you take that into account why not have a person who can cast this wonderful game in the best English she can. Hell people watched Khaldor and it was auf Deustch (in German). I wonder if the people who are flaming can speak another language. I wonder also if they do speak another language how much do you think that the native speakers can't stand your accent. Good Luck Kelly

On February 21 2011 19:12 hmunkey wrote:

Non-native speakers cannot understand accents well. I'm assuming that you as an American are a native English speaker, so here's an example: have you ever heard someone speak another language you know (like say, Spanish) in a non-Spanish accent? It's fucking impossible to comprehend.

On February 21 2011 19:07 Flyingpants wrote:
Koreans don't like having a woman caster for the korean part, english speakers don't want a woman caster for the english part, how complicated is this to understand?

It's clearly obvious that the only reason she was picked is because shes a woman, marginally attractive, and because she is asian.

On February 21 2011 18:44 Wilko wrote:


I don't wanna take away Artosis' vocal skills, they are just insane
But you should listen to her closely
She really knows what's going on all the time and (without being able to observe the game herself) and has really good game-understanding

On February 21 2011 19:13 dan1mal wrote:
My fears are confirmed, This is the worst casting Ive seen for a while:
*sees factory with techlab building and startport building*
"I think we are gonna see a drop"

... Just no -.-"

On February 21 2011 19:17 SeltzerPlease wrote:


...so all you're attacking in this comment is her gender? ...why? There is constructive criticism and then there is blatant sexism. Get over the ovaries, bro.

And you are making some major assumptions here about GomTV's thought process. Until you know all the casters who applied and how they presented themselves in their applications, I don't think you are qualified to make that assessment.

Peace, love, and open-mindedness.

On February 21 2011 19:12 hmunkey wrote:

Non-native speakers cannot understand accents well. I'm assuming that you as an American are a native English speaker, so here's an example: have you ever heard someone speak another language you know (like say, Spanish) in a non-Spanish accent? It's fucking impossible to comprehend.

On February 21 2011 19:27 OptimusYale wrote:
Starcraft 2 is coming out!

Nerds: WE DONT LIKE CHANGE, ROAR BROOD WARS IS WAY BETTER IM NOT GIVING SC2 TIME TO EVOLVE!

New observer system in GSL

NERDS: WE DONT LIKE CHANGE, ROAR TASTELESS SHOULD HAVE THE OBSERVING RIGHTS BECAUSE ITS CHANGED AND WE DONT WANT TO GIVE IT TIME!

New commentator who's a girl

NERDS: WE DONT LIKE CHANGE, IT SHOULD BE TASTELESS AND ARTOSIS CASTING 300 GAMES A DAY!!!! LETS NOT GIVE HER A CHANCE!


Seriously nerds, life's going to change and you have to adapt. The reason your socially awkward is because you don't like change. She's good, her accent is a non issue, she commentates well. Remember how nervous you were on your first day of school, or your first day of work. Now put that in front of a huge international audience and you'll imagine how difficult it will be! Stop the whining and live with the change. She's better than the korean female commentator, and having a female speak in my ear makes me feel much less gay than listening than 2 guys all the time!

Her knowledge is very good, her humor will get more natural as she settles down, her accent will become neutral in time, her english is perfect. To those who say it's not, have you ever taught people who are learning english as a second language? Their lexical choice is often disjointed and their grammar has minor inflectional errors. As a language major and an english grammar teacher, I would say shes better grammatically than I guess 70% of native english speakers because we change the grammar to be more conversational and often its wrong!

On February 21 2011 19:20 happyness wrote:


Have you seen the GLHF casters? They are 10 times worse. There are plenty of worse casters out there. She's not great, but not terrible either.

On February 21 2011 19:27 OptimusYale wrote:



Seriously nerds, life's going to change and you have to adapt. The reason your socially awkward is because you don't like change. She's good, her accent is a non issue, she commentates well. Remember how nervous you were on your first day of school, or your first day of work. Now put that in front of a huge international audience and you'll imagine how difficult it will be! Stop the whining and live with the change. She's better than the korean female commentator, and having a female speak in my ear makes me feel much less gay than listening than 2 guys all the time!

Her knowledge is very good, her humor will get more natural as she settles down, her accent will become neutral in time, her english is perfect. To those who say it's not, have you ever taught people who are learning english as a second language? Their lexical choice is often disjointed and their grammar has minor inflectional errors. As a language major and an english grammar teacher, I would say shes better grammatically than I guess 70% of native english speakers because we change the grammar to be more conversational and often its wrong!

On February 21 2011 19:27 OptimusYale wrote:
Starcraft 2 is coming out!

Nerds: WE DONT LIKE CHANGE, ROAR BROOD WARS IS WAY BETTER IM NOT GIVING SC2 TIME TO EVOLVE!

New observer system in GSL

NERDS: WE DONT LIKE CHANGE, ROAR TASTELESS SHOULD HAVE THE OBSERVING RIGHTS BECAUSE ITS CHANGED AND WE DONT WANT TO GIVE IT TIME!

New commentator who's a girl

NERDS: WE DONT LIKE CHANGE, IT SHOULD BE TASTELESS AND ARTOSIS CASTING 300 GAMES A DAY!!!! LETS NOT GIVE HER A CHANCE!


Seriously nerds, life's going to change and you have to adapt. The reason your socially awkward is because you don't like change. She's good, her accent is a non issue, she commentates well. Remember how nervous you were on your first day of school, or your first day of work. Now put that in front of a huge international audience and you'll imagine how difficult it will be! Stop the whining and live with the change. She's better than the korean female commentator, and having a female speak in my ear makes me feel much less gay than listening than 2 guys all the time!

Her knowledge is very good, her humor will get more natural as she settles down, her accent will become neutral in time, her english is perfect. To those who say it's not, have you ever taught people who are learning english as a second language? Their lexical choice is often disjointed and their grammar has minor inflectional errors. As a language major and an english grammar teacher, I would say shes better grammatically than I guess 70% of native english speakers because we change the grammar to be more conversational and often its wrong!

On February 21 2011 19:39 Monasou wrote:


Very good plat player knowledge. I'm a plat player myself. Why am I not in that chair? Because I don't deserve it. Artosis is one of the best minds of SC2, him and tasteless were a perfect combination. What is the purpose of putting in someone that has less than, or limited knowledge compared to someone who has been there, and done that?

The job is speaking. If you've got an accent, then you probably wouldn't want to get a job that focuses on displaying that. Why couldn't we fly JP or someone else down there? Not sure why GOM would chose a plat player/casted to do that job. I don't know. Why bench Artosis for newblood?

On February 21 2011 19:41 dan1mal wrote:


Wow, nice stereo-typing bro.. Herp derp nerds.. Its retarded to think we are all socially akward shut-ins who just sit around shouting at wierd change -.-" There are also the educated among us, and there are also people who have good reasons not to like the new caster.. And that rediculously annoying highpitched voice is a legitimate reason to not like her.

On February 21 2011 19:27 OptimusYale wrote:
Starcraft 2 is coming out!

Nerds: WE DONT LIKE CHANGE, ROAR BROOD WARS IS WAY BETTER IM NOT GIVING SC2 TIME TO EVOLVE!

New observer system in GSL

NERDS: WE DONT LIKE CHANGE, ROAR TASTELESS SHOULD HAVE THE OBSERVING RIGHTS BECAUSE ITS CHANGED AND WE DONT WANT TO GIVE IT TIME!

New commentator who's a girl

NERDS: WE DONT LIKE CHANGE, IT SHOULD BE TASTELESS AND ARTOSIS CASTING 300 GAMES A DAY!!!! LETS NOT GIVE HER A CHANCE!


Seriously nerds, life's going to change and you have to adapt. The reason your socially awkward is because you don't like change. She's good, her accent is a non issue, she commentates well. Remember how nervous you were on your first day of school, or your first day of work. Now put that in front of a huge international audience and you'll imagine how difficult it will be! Stop the whining and live with the change. She's better than the korean female commentator, and having a female speak in my ear makes me feel much less gay than listening than 2 guys all the time!

Her knowledge is very good, her humor will get more natural as she settles down, her accent will become neutral in time, her english is perfect. To those who say it's not, have you ever taught people who are learning english as a second language? Their lexical choice is often disjointed and their grammar has minor inflectional errors. As a language major and an english grammar teacher, I would say shes better grammatically than I guess 70% of native english speakers because we change the grammar to be more conversational and often its wrong!

On February 21 2011 19:43 OptimusYale wrote:
Im english and I abstain from voting because regardless of who goes in they're all the same in England.

And what do you mean as a liberal, her grammar is equal to that of a native speaker if not better.

And I say nerds and you flame me, tastosis say nerd and you take it as a compliment. I didn't mean it in a bad way but serious gamers tend to hate change more than any other gamer demographic! I think its because in the hardcore scene there is longer life on games, but you have to accept that at some point something has to change.

You don't complain when John makes grammatical errors in the translations. It urks me at times when he makes silly small mistakes, but Kelly makes 0 and if you think she is making mistakes then you are mistaken. Anyway I'm pretty sure she has English as a native language, alas it's an official language of Singapore, and as far as I know its taught the same as US English, so chances are she just speaks with a different dialect/ accent, live with it, americans have different accents, allow the rest of the world to!

On February 21 2011 19:48 Sylvr wrote:


Her English isn't the problem, her accent is. YOU may consider it a non-issue, but I certainly don't. As a Language Major and an English Grammar Teacher, you are more used to listening to people with accents, and so are biased. I can assure you that it most definitely matters to people without such experience (which happens to be a vast majority of people). What makes it worse is that she tries to talk too fast for having said accent.

Aside from that, the high pitch voice on top of all that makes it borderline unbearable for me, at least.

It isn't impossible for her to get better, but her voice isn't going to change, and if her english is that good and she hasn't lost the accent yet, then she probably never will.

On February 21 2011 20:09 Daavee wrote:


I actually unterstand only Tasteless, not listening to her as it is too difficult and I want to see and concentrate on the match.

On February 21 2011 20:10 Fisher wrote:
GSL has become somewhat painful to watch sadly :/ Between the accent and lacking in game knowledge I dunno if I can watch with the volume on anymore. Tasteless is even thrown off by her lol.

On February 21 2011 20:19 justanother wrote:
Being a Singaporean I can understand Kelly 90% of the time but her pronunciation does slip occasionally. On a side note, haters need to just chill and be more tolerant of the accent. It's more likely that this is the first time they're actually hearing a Singaporean cast, so it sounds really foreign at first. Honestly, I think people are just being too prejudiced against Kelly to give her (and her accent) a proper chance. You can tell she's trying hard, so props to her. Just need some open-mindedness and time to get used to her.

On February 21 2011 20:30 Sindsygafnatur wrote:
Dear Internet.

Please stfu about accents. I'm sick of these elitist views on how global casting should only be done in one form of english.

"OMG I don't understand none of dat asian-speak!" "she don't speak as I!" "I hates her."

People speak differently in different parts of the world, embrace it. It's what's makes the world colorfull and interesting. And come on, if you can't understand what she's saying, you should get your brain checked. And the " Oh noes, her voices is to high", she's a woman, you have to learn to live with it someday.

This should be read in the thickest, most disgusting danish accent, hailing from the proud peninsular of Jutland.

On February 21 2011 20:32 squintz wrote:


Don't you mean Dear America? Seems like 90% of the haters have that ignorant attitude towards her have United States posted as their location.

On February 21 2011 19:17 SeltzerPlease wrote:


...so all you're attacking in this comment is her gender? ...why? There is constructive criticism and then there is blatant sexism. Get over the ovaries, bro.

And you are making some major assumptions here about GomTV's thought process. Until you know all the casters who applied and how they presented themselves in their applications, I don't think you are qualified to make that assessment.

Peace, love, and open-mindedness.

On February 21 2011 20:35 Sindsygafnatur wrote:

What's that ? Sorry I don't understand the canadian accent, even in written form.

Nah, I don't know if it's mostly americans. That would be prejudiced of me.

On February 21 2011 20:30 Sindsygafnatur wrote:
Dear Internet.

Please stfu about accents. I'm sick of these elitist views on how global casting should only be done in one form of english.

"OMG I don't understand none of dat asian-speak!" "she don't speak as I!" "I hates her."

People speak differently in different parts of the world, embrace it. It's what's makes the world colorfull and interesting. And come on, if you can't understand what she's saying, you should get your brain checked. And the " Oh noes, her voices is to high", she's a woman, you have to learn to live with it someday.

This should be read in the thickest, most disgusting danish accent, hailing from the proud peninsular of Jutland.

On February 21 2011 20:42 MethodSC wrote:
>Racecars

On February 21 2011 21:11 phuzi0n wrote:
If you interview her again please ask her why she degrades herself by calling herself "milkies" (breasts) and her blog "fuckslits" (vaginas).

fuckslits.tumblr.com

On February 21 2011 20:54 dan1mal wrote:


No-one is saying her english has to be perfect, but Honestly her voice is almost impossible to listen to, and its not because its "her voices is to high because shes a woman", she just has an anoying voice... And regardless of how good her english is, or how anoying her voice is. Her game knowledge just isnt good enough to cast the GSL. I mean it is the freaking gsl, THE most prestigious tournament there is atm, therefore it should have casters who know EXACTLY what they're talking about..

On February 21 2011 21:21 thanhbao86 wrote:


+1
People need to rewatch those games and see how many wrong statements she made. Casters need to have knowledge about the game. Period.

On February 21 2011 21:23 Vehemus wrote:


If you're expecting Artosis' level of game knowledge, you're not going to get that from either Tasteless or Kelly.

I don't think it's fair to rip Kelly for incorrect statements when Tasteless makes them all the time as well.

On February 21 2011 20:32 squintz wrote:


Don't you mean Dear America? Seems like 90% of the haters have that ignorant attitude towards her have United States posted as their location.

On February 21 2011 21:23 Vehemus wrote:


If you're expecting Artosis' level of game knowledge, you're not going to get that from either Tasteless or Kelly.

I don't think it's fair to rip Kelly for incorrect statements when Tasteless makes them all the time as well.

On February 21 2011 21:26 igotmyown wrote:
Have you guys never met Singaporeans in college? Her accent is completely normal.

I don't see how it's any worse than hearing people from the UK butcher the English language, or their derivatives (Australian, various European ones).

On February 21 2011 19:17 SeltzerPlease wrote:
And you are making some major assumptions here about GomTV's thought process. Until you know all the casters who applied and how they presented themselves in their applications, I don't think you are qualified to make that assessment.

Peace, love, and open-mindedness.

On February 21 2011 21:26 igotmyown wrote:

I don't see how it's any worse than hearing people from the UK butcher the English language, or their derivatives (Australian, various European ones).

On February 21 2011 21:37 Weavel wrote:
Exactly my thought!

On February 21 2011 21:26 igotmyown wrote:
Have you guys never met Singaporeans in college? Her accent is completely normal.

I don't see how it's any worse than hearing people from the UK butcher the English language, or their derivatives (Australian, various European ones).

On February 21 2011 21:40 scoville wrote:


supreme american arrogance, right here.
come back when you can actually spell the words in the language we gave you.

On February 21 2011 21:41 ovion wrote:

uh yea i'm gonna have to give this a ditto

On February 21 2011 22:16 DeMusliM wrote:
She certainly looked more comfortable by the end of the cast which was nice to see, first time casting infront of camera is a really rattling experience and i'm glad she kept her composure and improved through out.

I'm still not comfortable listening to her or watching her. The enunciation is still the big kick in the teeth for me, an accent is one thing such as rotterdam's, but Kelly has an entirely different problem that can't even be related to Rotterdam. I also felt pretty uncomfortable when the touching of tasteless' shoulder started happening, I really want to like Kelly and her casting, i'm just finding it very hard to do so.

On February 21 2011 22:03 confusedcrib wrote:


Well technically what we speak in America is old british, it was only after the revolution, in the 1800s that they started their well known accent: "the British accent 'RP' (which developed in the private boarding schools of the nineteenth century, and is associated with high prestige groups in England)." more here http://linguistlist.org/ask-ling/accent.cfm. So, although the fact that the UK English is "butchered" can be disagreed with, he is actually legitimate in considering it a "butchering" of the English language.

On February 21 2011 22:45 floor exercise wrote:
Her voice is just terrible. I don't know how you can fix that, it just isn't pleasant to listen to, it's really disjointing when she starts talking

On February 21 2011 22:05 SimDawg wrote:
1) It's an English cast, we should be able to expect a certain level of competency in speaking english. When she talks fast there are times when she doesn't even structure sentences correctly. Her accent is thick. I can listen to many foreign casters. In fact, I think Rotterdam is fantastic, and he has an accent, but it does not effect his job.

2) Not knowing the names of the units is a big thing, not everyone can be like Artosis and Chill, but Tasteless has his gems of knowledge and adds a huge amount of entertainment value. I dislike it when I feel like I have more knowledge of what's happening than the casters. I'm sure she can learn what hellions are by next cast.

All in all I think she will improve. I didn't like the decision to begin with, I'm not sure I like her professionalism. However, from the start of the cast to the end was a huge difference in comfort between the two of them. I think it will only get better, and it definately should get better if GOM wants to keep the foreigner Code A audience.

One of the biggest improvements tonight from the previous youtube clips I've seen was that she slowed down quite a bit, she was almost too calm (awkward even) at the start. I can definately see her fitting in, but the accent is going to really need to get better to get my full seal of approval.

I'm not entirely sure how quickly one can change something like that, so we'll see.

Edit: Thanks for the interview Seltzer, was interesting.

On February 21 2011 22:11 optical630 wrote:
i thought she was ok today, but if english isnt your first language, i think it would be hard for you to understand her

On February 21 2011 22:16 DeMusliM wrote:
She certainly looked more comfortable by the end of the cast which was nice to see, first time casting infront of camera is a really rattling experience and i'm glad she kept her composure and improved through out.

I'm still not comfortable listening to her or watching her. The enunciation is still the big kick in the teeth for me, an accent is one thing such as rotterdam's, but Kelly has an entirely different problem that can't even be related to Rotterdam. I also felt pretty uncomfortable when the touching of tasteless' shoulder started happening, I really want to like Kelly and her casting, i'm just finding it very hard to do so.

On February 21 2011 22:49 Annq wrote:
There should always be a native english speaker commenting the GSL

On February 21 2011 23:58 zeru wrote:

Yeah, so are people from trinidad. Doesnt mean they speak english that is understandable to everyone.

On February 22 2011 00:35 riptide wrote:

There is no one who speaks English that is understandable to everyone. That's not the way language and accents work.

On February 22 2011 00:49 coddan wrote:


But there's a difference between 50% having trouble understanding, and 1%.

On February 22 2011 00:35 riptide wrote:

There is no one who speaks English that is understandable to everyone. That's not the way language and accents work.

On February 22 2011 00:49 coddan wrote:


But there's a difference between 50% having trouble understanding, and 1%.

On February 21 2011 23:58 zeru wrote:

Yeah, so are people from trinidad. Doesnt mean they speak english that is understandable to everyone.

On February 22 2011 01:29 thebigdonkey wrote:
The one abiding question I have for everyone who says "she could improve" is...why should we have to accept someone that needs to improve to be at an average level for the position they hold? Especially in a position that's supposed to represent the pinnacle of the craft (or at least it does on the players' side). Would we accept a President/Prime Minister who *might* be good someday, but for now the best that could be said about him/her is that they *might* improve? I feel like this is a position, especially because there are paying customers, where you should be good before you arrive, not a position that you grow into.

It really is a difficult situation to judge because of her sex. We live in such a confused society. On the one hand, we try to pretend that gender doesn't matter, but on the other hand, I feel like we make extra excuses or grant extra leeway in light of gender. I feel like that if she were a male native of singapore with the same accent, she would not have nearly as many apologists but also maybe not as many passionate haters (which to be frank is just a backlash for all of the apologists). But I do feel like the feedback would be more unanimously negative.

On February 22 2011 01:07 Niick wrote:


But casters must please the superior Americans, because they invented the language.

User was temp banned for this post.

On February 22 2011 01:56 Sqq wrote:
Some of you in this thread and the GSL Code A thread are down right embarrassing. I can't believe the shite some of you spout. If you have a problem with her as a caster, show her (and us) the respect of being constructive in your posts. I'm sure she wouldn't mind some ideas for ways she can improve. Just look at what Artosis and Tasteless said. They read the constructive criticism and took it to heart. The random bashing that is towards Kelis is downright shite.

On February 22 2011 01:47 oxxo wrote:
They're seriously going to use her? There's a reason in the US that almost all newscasters have to learn a Midwestern 'accent' (neutral/no accent).

The casting today was not on the level of the what the biggest SC2 tournament should be.

On February 22 2011 01:36 Assirra wrote:

Didn't we have exact the same thing with the new observer?
the first few days you couldn't look besides the hate posts and he improved and look where he is now.
i say give her a couple days/around a week before you start hating.
and lol at comparing this to an election, guess what, you don't decide anything here.

On February 22 2011 02:03 Aaayaaa wrote:
Her accent is a problem. She is a problem. This isn't like the first day of the terribad observer. This is a real issue. The casting today was not on the level of the what the biggest SC2 tournament should be. For those crying sexism...This was an affirmative female action choice. Someone like Torch is so blatantly better suited for the role, but instead they went for a chick because they thought that male viewers would enjoy that more.

On February 22 2011 01:59 Clicker wrote:

It's hard to take this seriously with your signature.

On February 22 2011 01:53 GreEny K wrote:


Ok you got a well deserved ban for that but I still feel the need to tell you what an idiot you are.

And I really don't understand why people bitch so much about her accent, it isn't that bad. If you can't understand her then I think there might be a bigger problem with you then with her.

On February 21 2011 19:19 kickinhead wrote:


She really has nothing helpful/interesting to say and some things are just wrong...

Is she really plat.league?

If you're not mid or high in masters, you shouldn't be allowed to cast!

On February 22 2011 02:07 Pinith wrote:
I thought she made for better casting than just about any of the other substitute casters we've seen in the GSL (better than all other than Idra in my opinion). Also, I find Kelly easier to understand than many European casters.

On February 22 2011 02:10 fainez wrote:
I don't see what all the fuss is about. I thought she was fine.

On February 22 2011 02:37 Nocthem wrote:
i'm sorry miss kellymilikies but i do not appreciate your casting at all

I understand you might like doing it but due to your accent it's not something we can enjoy as watchers.

On February 21 2011 18:47 WTL wrote:


"zee-lot"


so insightful.

On February 22 2011 02:47 Solai wrote:providing additional information on players like where Loner comes from, that ST_August sits next to ST_July in their team house etc. .

On February 21 2011 18:37 Wilko wrote:
Her accent isn't worse than SuperDanielMans and he was the best caster on Gom-TV yet in my opinion
First i was sceptical, but she actually has more game-knowledge than Artosis, so im completely fine with it.

On February 22 2011 02:49 Disciple7 wrote:
WAIT WAIT WAIT, why have I not seen any comments on how hot the girl on the left is? Does she play SC o_o???

And I feel like Kelly may be fine as long as she's like the secondary caster, she's too much energy to be primary and definitely too much energy to be solo. Her game knowledge is good enough that if the primary role is being filled by someone else, she will be able to make insightful comments on what IS happening, however she is not insightful enough to commentate on what is GOING to happen.

She really has nothing helpful/interesting to say and some things are just wrong...

Is she really plat.league?

If you're not mid or high in masters, you shouldn't be allowed to cast!

On February 22 2011 02:57 ziggymondais wrote:


Okay, if we're going to use that bar, who is allowed to cast these days? I don't think many casters are in mid-high masters. Heck, I'm not even sure if Day[9] is in masters, but that's also because he probably ladders on a ghost account. Are Chill, DjWheat, JP, or any other casters in masters? Only progamers that are usually playing in the tournaments are probably in masters.

Knowledge of the game comes in many ways, and I'm sure there are spectators that are extremely knowledgeable about the game simply by watching matches since people learn in different ways.

On February 22 2011 02:52 SkCom wrote:
Am I the only one who, while not liking her accent, doesn't care about it, but is rather annoyed by her attitude?
There have been numerous replies in the threads about her with screenshots and proof that she is quite self-centered, doesn't take criticism well (there was this one guy with such a well-constructed post and she basically told him to fuck off if he doesn't like it) and looks for attention every opportunity she gets.

The accent, ok, it might be tough for some people, but we can get over it if she was really a good and likable person with a sense of humor and added something to the casts. Which she, simply put, is not; and that is not going to change, because people don't change their personalities over a week, a month, or a year. Right now the only thing she's adding is "she's cute/female" and some people obsess over that.

She was also very unprofessional with Tasteless today, going as far as touching him when he was obviously uncomfortable with it.

I'm concerned about the image of professional casters when I see her name associated with the profession.

It's not about her as a person, I could really care less and it changes nothing in my little nerdy life.

It's about the bigger picture and the image of eSports.

On February 22 2011 02:59 thebigdonkey wrote:


Perhaps the best post in the thread. Sadly, I don't think very many people can be objective about this issue. It is too polarizing.

On February 22 2011 02:57 ziggymondais wrote:


Okay, if we're going to use that bar, who is allowed to cast these days? I don't think many casters are in mid-high masters. Heck, I'm not even sure if Day[9] is in masters, but that's also because he probably ladders on a ghost account. Are Chill, DjWheat, JP, or any other casters in masters? Only progamers that are usually playing in the tournaments are probably in masters.

Knowledge of the game comes in many ways, and I'm sure there are spectators that are extremely knowledgeable about the game simply by watching matches since people learn in different ways.

On February 22 2011 03:06 paksam wrote:
imo this has less to do with kelly's casting and more to do about GOM picking her to cast, you guys cant blame her if u think she's not qualified, the blame can really only lie on GOM for picking her, for those of us who didnt enjoy the commentary...stop complaining about the caster for taking advantage of a great opportunity! im all for kelly improving but GOM seriously needs to reconsider the amount they charge; i know its really not much money but for someone who doesnt work (school) and plays/watches sc2 on his free-time its not worth the money/time and that is really MY biggest problem with this whole situation(is it fair to ask people to pay to watch someone basically learning to cast? - this comes from basically everyone saying she has room to improve) GOM shouldve seriously thought this through and maybe even had code A content for free?....people should jstop with these personal attacks and direct all the anger towards something more deserving.

On February 22 2011 03:03 C.W. wrote:


I heavily agree - very good post and probably the thing about her that I am not comfortable about as well, but couldn't detect.

On February 22 2011 02:47 ilikeLIONZ wrote:

isn't that the correct pronounciation? i know that ppl say it differently, but that's correct afaik!^^

On February 22 2011 02:52 SkCom wrote:
Am I the only one who, while not liking her accent, doesn't care about it, but is rather annoyed by her attitude?
There have been numerous replies in the threads about her with screenshots and proof that she is quite self-centered, doesn't take criticism well (there was this one guy with such a well-constructed post and she basically told him to fuck off if he doesn't like it) and looks for attention every opportunity she gets.

On February 22 2011 02:55 C.W. wrote:


Have you seen her teeth?
Not going to go any further here b/c her looks have nothing to do with casting.

On February 22 2011 03:17 Lann555 wrote:


Is it really that strange to expect professional casters, who get paid to cast the most prestigious tournament with the best players, to actually be good players on their own? I think you have to be at least near Master League level to really catch most of the stuff that goes on in a game, especially since higher level games often get decided by small details. Pretty much all decent casters can play at quite a high level, even when we are talking random amateur streams for those 100$ dollar tournaments and such. Almost all of the casters are mid-high diamond at the very least and quite a few are master and play a ton of games.