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Interview with Code A caster KellyMilkies - Page 15

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noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
February 21 2011 19:40 GMT
#281
Cant they just pay her an english class ?
Losing accent doesnt seem that hard (im not native english speaker too)
freetgy
Profile Joined November 2010
1720 Posts
February 21 2011 19:43 GMT
#282
i think she did pretty fine.
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 19:52:23
February 21 2011 19:44 GMT
#283
On February 22 2011 04:34 eek wrote:
I'm pretty sure I almost facepalmed when she called hellions "race cars." Calling a spine crawler a sunken colony isn't nearly as bad. I can't wait for her to call a marine a G.I. Joe next.

Let's be honest, the people complaining aren't hating her because she's a non-native English speaker. We're criticizing the decision for GOM to put a non-native English speaker who has a limited understanding of the game at its highest level as a professional English language caster in the premiere SC2 event. If she was an emergency replacement caster, no one would post any serious complaints. Instead, she was deliberately chosen to be the caster for all of Code A. Frankly put, a caster only needs to be able to do two things. He needs to accurately analyze and describe the on-screen action, and he also needs to do so in a clear and pleasant manner. Under these criteria, I'm almost positive there are several more qualified casters available who would have jumped at the opportunity. Based on this assumption, I can only assume they chose her because either it was more cost efficient for them to hire and fly her to Korea, or they believed that a female caster would've been more popular.

So you dont like Tasteless calling spine crawlers giraffes or his pandabearman in BW. Or people calling ultras cows in BW either?

For those criticizing her English that arent native speakers Singapore has English as its main language in their schools. All non-native and even some native speakers of English have regional common grammar mistakes which contribute to a thick accent. Hers isnt even that bad and if you went to Singapore you would understand what I mean. If you had people from some regions of the UK instead you would be begging for her back trust me.

Also thinking ahead and the likely upcoming Chinese player boom in the region she will be able to do interviews with the mandarin speaking players for us.

Anyway on subject thanks for the interview .
paksam
Profile Joined November 2010
143 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 19:45:34
February 21 2011 19:44 GMT
#284
I said i wasn't paying for it this season, does that imply that i didn't pay for any seasons? enough of this sorry about the nerd rage dude lol
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
February 21 2011 19:45 GMT
#285
On February 22 2011 04:20 Rofllisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 03:58 GreEny K wrote:
So your inexperience in the language should hold her back from casting? Like I said earlier, it seems like a lot of the people that can't understand her are more to blame than her accent.

She may cast whatever the hell she wants, but GomTV should have hired a person who actually can speak English properly instead of her. I don't need to be a hen to recognize a rotten egg.

I can speak English too, but you probably wouldn't understand half of what I say, is it OK to say "you don't understand, so it's your problem"?


Yes that is exactly what I am saying... Thank you for realizing that, and I would like to hear you speak English now... I can understand most English that I have encountered so far.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Lunat!c
Profile Joined March 2010
122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 19:47:47
February 21 2011 19:47 GMT
#286
She annoys me so much her pronunciation is such a joke I hope that this is her first and last GSL.
laharl23
Profile Joined February 2011
United States582 Posts
February 21 2011 19:47 GMT
#287
shes cute
eek
Profile Joined February 2011
5 Posts
February 21 2011 19:48 GMT
#288
On February 22 2011 04:44 Vimsey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 04:34 eek wrote:
I'm pretty sure I almost facepalmed when she called hellions "race cars." Calling a spine crawler a sunken colony isn't nearly as bad. I can't wait for her to call a marine a G.I. Joe next.

Let's be honest, the people complaining aren't hating her because she's a non-native English speaker. We're criticizing the decision for GOM to put a non-native English speaker who has a limited understanding of the game at its highest level as a professional English language caster in the premiere SC2 event. If she was an emergency replacement caster, no one would post any serious complaints. Instead, she was deliberately chosen to be the caster for all of Code A. Frankly put, a caster only needs to be able to do two things. He needs to accurately analyze and describe the on-screen action, and he also needs to do so in a clear and pleasant manner. Under these criteria, I'm almost positive there are several more qualified casters available who would have jumped at the opportunity. Based on this assumption, I can only assume they chose her because either it was more cost efficient for them to hire and fly her to Korea, or they believed that a female caster would've been more popular.

So you dont like Tasteless calling spine crawlers giraffes or his pandabearman in BW. Or people calling ultras cows in BW either?

Also thinking ahead and the likely upcoming Chinese boom in the region she will be able to do interviews with the mandarin speaking players for us.

Anyway on subject thanks for the interview .


No, because I knew they were jokes, not because he was struggling with what to call them. Similarly, I have no problem with SO MANY BANELINGS, or Tasteless Secret Hallway (which is not the bottom right one on Xel'Naga). I don't understand how a joke and a verbal crutch equate.


Helios.Star
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States548 Posts
February 21 2011 19:50 GMT
#289
On February 21 2011 19:12 hmunkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 19:10 Justanx wrote:
Seriously, it seems that all these flames are about accent. However, the European casters accents are bad as well, hell but they are not speaking their native tongue. This is an international game. This is amazing that a game has touched the whole world. If you take that into account why not have a person who can cast this wonderful game in the best English she can. Hell people watched Khaldor and it was auf Deustch (in German). I wonder if the people who are flaming can speak another language. I wonder also if they do speak another language how much do you think that the native speakers can't stand your accent. Good Luck Kelly

Non-native speakers cannot understand accents well. I'm assuming that you as an American are a native English speaker, so here's an example: have you ever heard someone speak another language you know (like say, Spanish) in a non-Spanish accent? It's fucking impossible to comprehend.


Reminds me of when I was learning Japanese and I heard it for the first time in a Dutch accent. Blew my fuckin mind.
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 19:51:40
February 21 2011 19:50 GMT
#290
I dont think she has very good game analysis.... or atleast some form of active and intelligent conversation.

Kelly: Tasteless, how come the zerg didnt spread creep?
Tasteless: I dunno.
me: the fuck should he know, stupid question deserves stupid answer.

kelly: the infestors are here to infest the marines!
tasteless: fungal growth.
kelly: oh yeah

kelly: the zerg pretty unique, hes using zergrings.
me: what?
"What a terrible final. This is why BO3s are horrible. Seriously MKP vs Moon in a final and having it BO3 is like having Mila Kunis naked in your bed and all she'll give you is a HJ with her PJs on. Pffffffffffffffftt." -greatZERG
Poocs
Profile Joined February 2011
94 Posts
February 21 2011 19:51 GMT
#291
On February 21 2011 18:37 Wilko wrote:
Her accent isn't worse than SuperDanielMans and he was the best caster on Gom-TV yet in my opinion
First i was sceptical, but she actually has more game-knowledge than Artosis, so im completely fine with it.


Yeah I couldn't understand half of what superdanielman was saying either. Didn't like him at all.
jamesmax
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada72 Posts
February 21 2011 19:54 GMT
#292
I paid for every season and will continue to support the gsl for now but I am extremely dissapointed in there choice for a new caster. Her knowledge is basic at best which is fine they obviously hired her to explain the basic parts of the game but I just can't stand listening to her, something happens and a bunch of jibberish comes out. Calls a third a "turd" and the "da". It's too annoying I'll just carry on with it muted =_=.
I am a constructor, what is army?
Sobba
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden576 Posts
February 21 2011 19:58 GMT
#293
She is doing fine. At first i was annoyed watching the ragequit.tv stream with Ipp because of his speech impediment. But after watching for awhile you get over it and you listen to what he is actually saying and not his lisping. The same with Kelly, first game it botherd me and i was annoyed. But with the exciting Huk games i forgot her accent and focused more on her excitment and i think she is doing a decent job for her first day.
CrAzEdBaDgEr
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada166 Posts
February 21 2011 20:05 GMT
#294
Can people seriously not understand her because of her accent?

At least for me (Canadian), she is far easier to understand than someone with a Southern or Jersey accent, and far more pleasant as well.
Jcuervo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States52 Posts
February 21 2011 20:05 GMT
#295
All the flamming is about accent. I guarantee that if anyone here were to speak another language other than their native language they would have an accent. She will get better with time.

You guys should be psyched to see eSports is actually providing someone with a job. Stop flamming and support the GSL for what they have done and continue to do.
Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
February 21 2011 20:07 GMT
#296
On February 22 2011 04:54 jamesmax wrote:
I paid for every season and will continue to support the gsl for now but I am extremely dissapointed in there choice for a new caster. Her knowledge is basic at best which is fine they obviously hired her to explain the basic parts of the game but I just can't stand listening to her, something happens and a bunch of jibberish comes out. Calls a third a "turd" and the "da". It's too annoying I'll just carry on with it muted =_=.


Dude don't talk about Tasteless like that. (Seriously) Do you ever pay attention? Tasteless almost always explains the boring basics even with Artosis there. I can't remember the number of times he has told me why they wall off or how he is a pro cause he knows the depot can be lowered and he shows all his nub friends. All the fanboys need to realize that they are in love with Tastetosis need to realize that even they are not perfect, and they don't always have something to say, and their jokes aren't always funny.
It is better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied.- John Stuart Mill
hugesteve2
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1 Post
February 21 2011 20:07 GMT
#297
2 points here from a person who finds Kelly tolerable.

1. As someone who went to a school which had a lot of fobs, even though its at first very foreign and hard to deal with, the fob accent sort of grows on you.
2. With regards to her game knowledge, that will grow more as she goes into the role.

You'll be able to adapt to it, enjoy your starcraft and don't go too crazy over casters woes.
go big or go home
SkCom
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada229 Posts
February 21 2011 20:07 GMT
#298
On February 22 2011 04:20 Aberu wrote:


The first game of Losira versus LegalMind shows this dramatically. Crevasse is a large map. That puts a burden on a zerg going hydras no matter what. Protoss knows this and goes blink stalker which almost forces hydras. If he does go hydras he can defend into colossus and still be at an advantage in the tech race, ahead of the corruptors. If he doesn't go hydras, well 2 base vs 2 base against blink stalkers, you pretty much have to have hydras, or the toss has to make a huge mistake and not use blink well. The fact that this angle was not discussed at all proves to me that tasteless and milkies do not have a high level understanding of sc2. The fact that they never discussed why someone going roach ling baneling versus pure blink stalkers on 2 base wasn't going to work, and was slowly going to put him behind over time, is a huge analysis misstep.


Can we all agree that she will never, ever, ever be on that level of analysis? People give the excuse that she won some all-female tournament as zerg as a proof that she knows her stuff. Let's see her try to do a simple analysis of this kind.
She simply doesn't think in analytical terms. So she can't bring that to the table.
What else can she do then? Step-by-step analysis with some fun jokes thrown in-between. She should stick to improving that, although I am sceptical.
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 20:14:03
February 21 2011 20:13 GMT
#299
On February 22 2011 05:07 hugesteve2 wrote:
2 points here from a person who finds Kelly tolerable.

1. As someone who went to a school which had a lot of fobs, even though its at first very foreign and hard to deal with, the fob accent sort of grows on you.
2. With regards to her game knowledge, that will grow more as she goes into the role.

You'll be able to adapt to it, enjoy your starcraft and don't go too crazy over casters woes.



But it still doesn't explain why GomTV would hire her? If she has bad game knowledge and is at times difficult to understand? I'm not hating on her, just I am not a fan of her casts. idk, I just found it easier to mute the gomplayer and just listen to music. Some casters I just don't enjoy listening to / make bad calls. I'm sure people like her casting but I for one do not. She is still a very nice person, but it's like a singer.. Some people are awesome singers, some people are just so bad they embarrass themselves and others know they are just bad so they don't.
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
February 21 2011 20:24 GMT
#300
On February 22 2011 04:50 xza wrote:
Kelly: Tasteless, how come the zerg didnt spread creep?
Tasteless: I dunno.
me: the fuck should he know, stupid question deserves stupid answer.


Actually, this was a valid question. Losira had 3 queens and, at 10 minutes in, his creep spread was horrendous. It was a totally legit question/observation. Do you play this game?

On February 22 2011 04:50 xza wrote:
kelly: the zerg pretty unique, hes using zergrings.
me: what?


You completely butchered her comment and intention. She said Losira is an interesting Zerg because he favors a large amount of lings rather than the standard early-mid game roach transition. Please don't be a reductive and malicious moron in the future.

I'm not the biggest Kelly fan in the world but your post made me cringe.
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