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eek
Profile Joined February 2011
5 Posts
February 22 2011 03:10 GMT
#421
On February 22 2011 11:34 Ridiculisk wrote:
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which can be difficult to understand for people who live in their isolated bubbles and have little experience outside of their home


I'm a white Australian, and I have absolutely no problem what-so-ever in understanding what Kelly is saying.

All the American's who are complaining about the accent/English should just stop for a second and actually listen. It's perfectly understandable.

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So isolated bubbles are people who actually speak english properly


LOL @ this^ Your American, your entire countries grasp of the English Language is questionable at best.

To illustrate my point I give you the word; Aluminium. Correct English spelling, Vs the American spelling Aluminum...


Pot, meet kettle, and all that nonsense.

I *am* American. I'm also fluent in Chinese, and my entire family speaks English and Chinglish with a Chinese accent, very similar to Kelly's. However, the question isn't whether she's intelligible or not. She is if you have a decent grasp of the language. It's also abundantly clear that English isn't her native language aside from her accent. To nitpick, she omits objects, forgets to pluralize words ("a pack of muta"), and other small mistakes only native English speakers notice. The salient point is if she was the best choice for the job, not if she's an adequate choice. Again, this is the most prestigious SC2 casting job, on a broadcast that features the highest budgets and production values, for a tournament with a larger prize pool than any other. Yet, the caster isn't the best available, merely an sufficient one. That's the crux of the complaints.
RodYan
Profile Joined May 2010
United States126 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 03:21:39
February 22 2011 03:17 GMT
#422
The way I see it, Kelly has some big problems with the way she talks, but it is NOT her accent nor is it what she says. She understands the game at a level that is more than adequate to cast. The problems are simply this:

She does not control her vocal pacing and always talks at the same volume and same tone. Especially when she gets excited.

When a speaker does this, it not only becomes hard for people to absorb the information you are trying to convey, but it also causes the brains in the heads of your audience to essentially "tune-out".

People are saying they can't understand her because of her accent, but that's really not the case. It's simply that their brain over filters everything she says because it all has the same tone, volume and pacing. The human brain is wired to only retain things that are interesting. Like: tigers and lions and bears. OH MY.

I would recommend professional public speaking classes and other speech training to really improve her casting. She's not retarded or stupid, she just needs more practice and experience.

Want a fun exercise to see how your brain works? If you read the whole post, ask yourself this: Do you remember the three animals I listed?
AWakefield
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada420 Posts
February 22 2011 03:28 GMT
#423
Okay, from all the hate I was expecting the worst accent ever. But...that was completely fine and completely understandable. She seems to know her stuff, and I was impressed with the matches I caught of her casting with Tasteless. People really need to ease up a bit, hating on someone is not helpful in the slightest.

I'm excited to watch Code A and I'm really happy for her. She seems to love her job (who wouldn't love that job?)

Also comparing all casters to Artotis isn't fair in the slightest. That's like saying you can't be good at hockey if your not Wayne Gretzky (I think everyone should understand the reference even if you dont know that much about hockey)
ct2299
Profile Joined February 2011
380 Posts
February 22 2011 03:28 GMT
#424
On February 22 2011 11:34 Ridiculisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
which can be difficult to understand for people who live in their isolated bubbles and have little experience outside of their home


I'm a white Australian, and I have absolutely no problem what-so-ever in understanding what Kelly is saying.

All the American's who are complaining about the accent/English should just stop for a second and actually listen. It's perfectly understandable.

Show nested quote +
So isolated bubbles are people who actually speak english properly


LOL @ this^ Your American, your entire countries grasp of the English Language is questionable at best.

To illustrate my point I give you the word; Aluminium. Correct English spelling, Vs the American spelling Aluminum...


*sigh* you should just be quiet before you further reinforce the stereotype that Australian's are ignorant.

An please kindly check your own grammar and learn the difference between YOUR and YOU'RE before saying Americans have a questionable grasp of the English language.Many thanks.

As someone growing up in Asia and around Singaporean accents, it isn't that they're necessarily hard to understand, but it is quite an annoying accent to listen to and especially when the person speaks very quickly.

I think it can be said, based on population that American or British English can be considered the "standard" accents for the English language (I'm sorry Australia, but when you have less than 25 million people, the Australian accent can hardly be called "mainstream", just due to television and media content largely being in those two accents. I don't see why they couldn't find someone with one of those accents. Singapore has a population of around 5 million people, why should we be subject to a minority accent unnecessarily? It's not like Kelly brings anything specific or unique in terms of game knowledge that no one else would be able to provide. I think that is the gripe many people have with this issue.
TrainFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States469 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 03:30:21
February 22 2011 03:29 GMT
#425
On February 22 2011 12:17 RodYan wrote:


She does not control her vocal pacing and always talks at the same volume and same tone.




you don't talk to very many women do you? lmao

that's how 99% of women are lololol.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
February 22 2011 03:31 GMT
#426
I'm happy that Kelly is the code A caster, showing that GOM is also not neglecting a lot of viewers from the SEA region. Also, I believe she does deserve the opportunity to improve. For example, the observer received a lot of flax last season but look at how he improved tremendously.

Kelly fighting!
RodYan
Profile Joined May 2010
United States126 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 03:33:38
February 22 2011 03:32 GMT
#427
On February 22 2011 12:29 TrainFX wrote:
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On February 22 2011 12:17 RodYan wrote:


She does not control her vocal pacing and always talks at the same volume and same tone.




you don't talk to very many women do you? lmao

that's how 99% of women are lololol.

I'm getting married next month. Believe me, I'm WAAAAAAYYYY experienced with coincidently tuning out on a woman.

Especially when in the middle of a game....
Zerokaiser
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada885 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 03:35:26
February 22 2011 03:33 GMT
#428
Another thing to remember is that it is *not* just Americans and Canadians and Australians were are complaining about her being tough to understand. Most of the world outside of Korea listens to the English stream, and it can be absurdly difficult when English is not your first language to understand the broken and mispronounced English of Kelly.

I am Canadian, I know we have accents. Most Americans are aware that they have accents. We have absolutely no problem understanding Brits, Aussies, and non-english natives like Jinro and TLO...Hell, I have an easier time listening to and understanding Cella even if his English is worse than Kelly's.

The fact is, even by non-native-speaker standards Kelly is just embaressing to listen to.
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