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Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
February 21 2011 19:12 GMT
#261
Geez, people have really become spoiled. No, not spoiled, lame.

I dont like the feel of the new Starcraft-community, if we want E-sport to hit global we cant just have american casters with american accents. Also, try looking at SuperDanielMan, that guy has an even "worse" accent than Kelly but he was still very appreciated for his positive sides and his enthusiasm and not getting shittalked by nobodies on the internet just because he was born in Korea. Peace out yo.

(Also, great interview haha)
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
Darksteel
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland319 Posts
February 21 2011 19:16 GMT
#262
She tried very hard in her first cast and didn't say anything really stupid that would cause major facepalms. Its true it takes some more effort to listen to her than native english speakers. Her english is quite good and of course non-natives tend to mix up words more and especially in game like SC2 where there is quite specific vocabulary its easy to forget words every now and then. All casters mess up unit names occasionally, day9 and tasteless included (thou they use the SC:BW counterparts).

Overall I feared it would have been worse and was positively surprised by her first day of GSL.
Rofllisk
Profile Joined March 2010
45 Posts
February 21 2011 19:20 GMT
#263
On February 22 2011 03:58 GreEny K wrote:
So your inexperience in the language should hold her back from casting? Like I said earlier, it seems like a lot of the people that can't understand her are more to blame than her accent.

She may cast whatever the hell she wants, but GomTV should have hired a person who actually can speak English properly instead of her. I don't need to be a hen to recognize a rotten egg.

I can speak English too, but you probably wouldn't understand half of what I say, is it OK to say "you don't understand, so it's your problem"?
Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
February 21 2011 19:20 GMT
#264
On February 21 2011 18:37 Wilko wrote:
Her accent isn't worse than SuperDanielMans and he was the best caster on Gom-TV yet in my opinion
First i was sceptical, but she actually has more game-knowledge than Artosis, so im completely fine with it.


This has got to be a troll post. Her knowledge of the game is pretty low.

I had written this to a friend of mine while discussing her casting.

+ Show Spoiler +
The first game of Losira versus LegalMind shows this dramatically. Crevasse is a large map. That puts a burden on a zerg going hydras no matter what. Protoss knows this and goes blink stalker which almost forces hydras. If he does go hydras he can defend into colossus and still be at an advantage in the tech race, ahead of the corruptors. If he doesn't go hydras, well 2 base vs 2 base against blink stalkers, you pretty much have to have hydras, or the toss has to make a huge mistake and not use blink well. The fact that this angle was not discussed at all proves to me that tasteless and milkies do not have a high level understanding of sc2. The fact that they never discussed why someone going roach ling baneling versus pure blink stalkers on 2 base wasn't going to work, and was slowly going to put him behind over time, is a huge analysis misstep.
srsly
Space_C0wb0y
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany41 Posts
February 21 2011 19:23 GMT
#265
For all the haters - try sending a message to your future self, something like 2 or three month from now, containing all your criticism for Kelly. Then, when the time comes, see what is still left of it.
NotSelf
Profile Joined July 2010
United States9 Posts
February 21 2011 19:23 GMT
#266
I was expecting a lot worse than what I heard. Everyone is overreacting.
GP
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1056 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 19:31:31
February 21 2011 19:24 GMT
#267
Oh my god, someone provides us with a nice interview with the caster and people are using this as a platform to bitch about her casting. Get a life, get the whining out of this thread. Seltzer's doing this as a favor for us and people repay that by trashing up the thread so it's unreadable. Does anyone remember how bad Artosis and Tasteless were on their first day? I mean, they were talking about the automatron while drops were going on, making goofy jokes and not moving the camera and following the action, they were pretty bad. I think for her first day she's fine. So give her a break, it's her first day, and I guarantee she'll improve.
Klyberess
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden345 Posts
February 21 2011 19:24 GMT
#268
I mean, I could definitely accept her horrid accent if she brought valuable game analysis. But she doesn't, even tasteless (who is the casting part of tastosis) far outshine her.

Also,

+ Show Spoiler +
BANERINGS!
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teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 19:31:58
February 21 2011 19:27 GMT
#269
On February 22 2011 04:10 paksam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 03:52 Tschis wrote:

You don't have to pay for it, no one is forcing you.

They're not charging you for their mistakes, they are charging you for their services, and if you're not satisfied with the service, you don't need to pay for it.

Also, you're saying it was a mistake, but many others say it wasn't, so why is it that your opinion is the one that matters?

Be more open-minded.

//tx


i am not paying for it this season, and i never said my opinion is the one that matters, ur the one who took it that way lol i just wanted to give my 2c on something that has more-or-less been a full out bashing on this female caster...i think u need to take ur own advice and be more open-minded ; i couldve easily repeated the opinions of the majority and just complain about her voice and how she is terrible but no i tried to take a different approach and tried to not bash her directly.

read more carefully
thx

Someone who lacks any sense of grammar, spelling, punctuation and has an extremely sickening sense of entitlement for someone who doesn't pay a cent to GOM is now bashing Kelly and telling other people to be more open-minded...

These posts are sub-BNet forums level. How do you have 60+ posts and haven't been banned yet? Take your filth and go away.

Half this thread makes me sick actually, so many worthless posts that are flaming just for the sake of flaming.
Arnie
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands6 Posts
February 21 2011 19:28 GMT
#270
Not bad for a first day at work.
Rock and roll!
Blackhawk13
Profile Joined April 2010
United States442 Posts
February 21 2011 19:29 GMT
#271
Her accent isn't THAT bad. Give her a fucking chance at least. Thanks for the interview.
Neverplay
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria532 Posts
February 21 2011 19:30 GMT
#272
will take some time to get used to her accent, but she seems nice and willing to improve
Better light a candle than curse the darkness
Dagobert
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands1858 Posts
February 21 2011 19:32 GMT
#273
Not a fan, I must say. Don't like her voice... and now Tasteless finds himself in a position where he needs to shape up and provide deep comments since kelly is doing a lot of shouting already. Which results in a lot of Uhhhhhhhs. Ah well, I don't have much time to be watching GSL anyway, so I'll just wait for S-class to roll around again.
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
February 21 2011 19:32 GMT
#274
On February 22 2011 04:10 paksam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 03:52 Tschis wrote:

You don't have to pay for it, no one is forcing you.

They're not charging you for their mistakes, they are charging you for their services, and if you're not satisfied with the service, you don't need to pay for it.

Also, you're saying it was a mistake, but many others say it wasn't, so why is it that your opinion is the one that matters?

Be more open-minded.

//tx


i am not paying for it this season, and i never said my opinion is the one that matters, ur the one who took it that way lol i just wanted to give my 2c on something that has more-or-less been a full out bashing on this female caster...i think u need to take ur own advice and be more open-minded ; i couldve easily repeated the opinions of the majority and just complain about her voice and how she is terrible but no i tried to take a different approach and tried to not bash her directly.

read more carefully
thx


Actually I am the one who should tell you to follow your own advice, and to read more carefully, even your own posts.

You're the one that used generalizations ("why should we have to pay for it?") like if you're speaking for everyone ("we"), and I never said you paid anything, but you're the one who spoke like anyone is forcing you to pay ("should we have to pay?").

And then again, you wrote like GOM was actually forcing you to pay ("I just dont agree with gom basically just charging us for their mistakes"), when in fact you're not even paying for anything.

Except for this stuff I pointed out, I can agree with what you said

"hmm agreed on the attacks but reasonable for you may not be reasonable for othersyes i think hiring her was a mistake due to the fact that a lot of people (not including me) cant understand her english well/generally dislike her casting style)"

That sounds more like a constructive post


//tx
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
eek
Profile Joined February 2011
5 Posts
February 21 2011 19:34 GMT
#275
I'm pretty sure I almost facepalmed when she called hellions "race cars." Calling a spine crawler a sunken colony isn't nearly as bad. I can't wait for her to call a marine a G.I. Joe next.

Let's be honest, the people complaining aren't hating her because she's a non-native English speaker. We're criticizing the decision for GOM to put a non-native English speaker who has a limited understanding of the game at its highest level as a professional English language caster in the premiere SC2 event. If she was an emergency replacement caster, no one would post any serious complaints. Instead, she was deliberately chosen to be the caster for all of Code A. Frankly put, a caster only needs to be able to do two things. He needs to accurately analyze and describe the on-screen action, and he also needs to do so in a clear and pleasant manner. Under these criteria, I'm almost positive there are several more qualified casters available who would have jumped at the opportunity. Based on this assumption, I can only assume they chose her because either it was more cost efficient for them to hire and fly her to Korea, or they believed that a female caster would've been more popular.
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
February 21 2011 19:37 GMT
#276
On February 22 2011 04:12 Slakter wrote:
Geez, people have really become spoiled. No, not spoiled, lame.

I dont like the feel of the new Starcraft-community, if we want E-sport to hit global we cant just have american casters with american accents. Also, try looking at SuperDanielMan, that guy has an even "worse" accent than Kelly but he was still very appreciated for his positive sides and his enthusiasm and not getting shittalked by nobodies on the internet just because he was born in Korea. Peace out yo.

(Also, great interview haha)

Oh, so Tasteless and Artosis are talking with an "american accent" now? Yet another one of those "lets never ever find anything wrong with anything" posts of people who are satisfied with anything.

Do you really think that people have difficulties understanding Tastosis as much as they have problems with Kelly? We know we can get something better and the GSL is supposed to be the best (highest paid) tournament in the world. If that is the case the organizers need to take care of the quality of their service and having someone do the commentary who is incapable of pronouncing several letters clearly is not going to do that job.

Maybe you should try to think about the people who do not speak english as well as you probably do. For them it is almost impossible to understand her commentary.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
GP
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1056 Posts
February 21 2011 19:37 GMT
#277
On February 22 2011 04:34 eek wrote:
I'm pretty sure I almost facepalmed when she called hellions "race cars." Calling a spine crawler a sunken colony isn't nearly as bad. I can't wait for her to call a marine a G.I. Joe next.

Are you serious? Tasteless calls spine crawlers giraffe heads.
Clicker
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
February 21 2011 19:38 GMT
#278
I feel like everyone pro-Kelly is assuming people wanted someone with an American accent, that's not the case at least not for me.

I really don't care about accents as long as you can understand what they're saying. Some words may be pronounced slightly differently with an accent and that's fine - my problem with Kelly is she'll occasionally have an entire string of sentences where you can't make out what she's saying. (I'd be more upset if I was watching live, but since I was watching the vods I just backed up a few seconds and relistened a few times.)

I have no problem with her calling Hellions race cars if she can't pronounce the word properly, because we'll know what she's talking about so who cares.
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
February 21 2011 19:39 GMT
#279
On February 22 2011 04:27 teamsolid wrote:
Someone who lacks any sense of grammar, spelling, punctuation and has an extremely sickening sense of entitlement for someone who doesn't pay a cent to GOM is now bashing Kelly and telling other people to be more open-minded...

These posts are sub-BNet forums level. How do you have 60+ posts and haven't been banned yet? Take your filth and go away.

Half this thread makes me sick actually, so many worthless posts that are flaming just for the sake of flaming.


Between the two you quoted, I'm the only who has 60+ posts, and I fail to see where my ponctuation, grammar and spelling failed.

I hope you're talking about the other guy lol =P

//tx
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 19:55:26
February 21 2011 19:39 GMT
#280
She did great her first day. I thought some words were a little rough for her. But she showed she knows quite a bit about the game and how its played, and I thought she was really entertaining. That might be because I thought Tastetosis was a little stale for 3-4 hours 5 days a week. I thought that even with the accent she still had no problem joking around, trying to be casual and funny, even though I'm sure she was nervous on her first day doing GSL games.

Edit: Her calling Hellions, racecars was brilliant and hot. Especially cool if she has a hard time saying hellion. Anyone remember her saying hellion?
It is better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied.- John Stuart Mill
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