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SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
February 21 2011 17:55 GMT
#221
Meh, i just say give her a chance. She has a good back ground on esports in general. Her accent is understandable and I hope to see good results. Everyone so harsh these days :/
I may not be the best, but i will be some day...
C.W.
Profile Joined August 2010
88 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 17:56:20
February 21 2011 17:55 GMT
#222
On February 22 2011 02:49 Disciple7 wrote:
WAIT WAIT WAIT, why have I not seen any comments on how hot the girl on the left is? Does she play SC o_o???

And I feel like Kelly may be fine as long as she's like the secondary caster, she's too much energy to be primary and definitely too much energy to be solo. Her game knowledge is good enough that if the primary role is being filled by someone else, she will be able to make insightful comments on what IS happening, however she is not insightful enough to commentate on what is GOING to happen.


Have you seen her teeth?
Not going to go any further here b/c her looks have nothing to do with casting.

I do not see this working out either - she has a phoneticly very annoying way of speaking , seems very mechanic, the vocabulary seems quite limited and the accent sucks a lot.
If she can't improve on those points she is not fit to cast at this level.

This is about "sports" for the fans so also go with competence when choosing the commentators.

I want Artosis back :[

Also Artosis knowledge of the game is more insightful(, to phrase it friendly...)
t(','t)
ziggymondais
Profile Joined July 2009
United States238 Posts
February 21 2011 17:57 GMT
#223
She really has nothing helpful/interesting to say and some things are just wrong...

Is she really plat.league?

If you're not mid or high in masters, you shouldn't be allowed to cast!


Okay, if we're going to use that bar, who is allowed to cast these days? I don't think many casters are in mid-high masters. Heck, I'm not even sure if Day[9] is in masters, but that's also because he probably ladders on a ghost account. Are Chill, DjWheat, JP, or any other casters in masters? Only progamers that are usually playing in the tournaments are probably in masters.

Knowledge of the game comes in many ways, and I'm sure there are spectators that are extremely knowledgeable about the game simply by watching matches since people learn in different ways.
The_Piper42
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States426 Posts
February 21 2011 17:57 GMT
#224
She knew a lot more about the game than I expected. I thought conversation between her and Tasteless actually flowed pretty well... maybe better than Tastosis. I guess one could argue that part of the joy of watching Tastosis is the lame jokes and awkward stuff but I enjoy watching both just the same.

Plus she's kinda cute...
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FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
February 21 2011 17:58 GMT
#225
On February 22 2011 02:57 ziggymondais wrote:
Show nested quote +
She really has nothing helpful/interesting to say and some things are just wrong...

Is she really plat.league?

If you're not mid or high in masters, you shouldn't be allowed to cast!


Okay, if we're going to use that bar, who is allowed to cast these days? I don't think many casters are in mid-high masters. Heck, I'm not even sure if Day[9] is in masters, but that's also because he probably ladders on a ghost account. Are Chill, DjWheat, JP, or any other casters in masters? Only progamers that are usually playing in the tournaments are probably in masters.

Knowledge of the game comes in many ways, and I'm sure there are spectators that are extremely knowledgeable about the game simply by watching matches since people learn in different ways.


i think you're overestimating masters a bit, but your point is still correct, his post was just stupid
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thebigdonkey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States354 Posts
February 21 2011 17:59 GMT
#226
On February 22 2011 02:52 SkCom wrote:
Am I the only one who, while not liking her accent, doesn't care about it, but is rather annoyed by her attitude?
There have been numerous replies in the threads about her with screenshots and proof that she is quite self-centered, doesn't take criticism well (there was this one guy with such a well-constructed post and she basically told him to fuck off if he doesn't like it) and looks for attention every opportunity she gets.

The accent, ok, it might be tough for some people, but we can get over it if she was really a good and likable person with a sense of humor and added something to the casts. Which she, simply put, is not; and that is not going to change, because people don't change their personalities over a week, a month, or a year. Right now the only thing she's adding is "she's cute/female" and some people obsess over that.

She was also very unprofessional with Tasteless today, going as far as touching him when he was obviously uncomfortable with it.

I'm concerned about the image of professional casters when I see her name associated with the profession.

It's not about her as a person, I could really care less and it changes nothing in my little nerdy life.

It's about the bigger picture and the image of eSports.


Perhaps the best post in the thread. Sadly, I don't think very many people can be objective about this issue. It is too polarizing.
McMonty
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada379 Posts
February 21 2011 18:00 GMT
#227
Good job during day1 kelly! Nice having you on the team. By the way, I laughed at your funny dance routine thing or whatever that was. Keep up good work.
n00bspanker
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada36 Posts
February 21 2011 18:01 GMT
#228
Can you guys seriously not understand her? Her accent isn't that bad. Stop exaggerating and give her a chance before you rip her to shreds.
C.W.
Profile Joined August 2010
88 Posts
February 21 2011 18:03 GMT
#229
On February 22 2011 02:59 thebigdonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 02:52 SkCom wrote:
Am I the only one who, while not liking her accent, doesn't care about it, but is rather annoyed by her attitude?
There have been numerous replies in the threads about her with screenshots and proof that she is quite self-centered, doesn't take criticism well (there was this one guy with such a well-constructed post and she basically told him to fuck off if he doesn't like it) and looks for attention every opportunity she gets.

The accent, ok, it might be tough for some people, but we can get over it if she was really a good and likable person with a sense of humor and added something to the casts. Which she, simply put, is not; and that is not going to change, because people don't change their personalities over a week, a month, or a year. Right now the only thing she's adding is "she's cute/female" and some people obsess over that.

She was also very unprofessional with Tasteless today, going as far as touching him when he was obviously uncomfortable with it.

I'm concerned about the image of professional casters when I see her name associated with the profession.

It's not about her as a person, I could really care less and it changes nothing in my little nerdy life.

It's about the bigger picture and the image of eSports.


Perhaps the best post in the thread. Sadly, I don't think very many people can be objective about this issue. It is too polarizing.


I heavily agree - very good post and probably the thing about her that I am not comfortable about as well, but couldn't detect.
t(','t)
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
February 21 2011 18:06 GMT
#230
I love how I see multiple posts saying that if you are an American and don't like her accent then you are an insular xenophobe, then I see multiple posts saying that if you are an American who has no problem with her accent you just don't understand that it's hard for non-native speakers to understand some heavy accents. I guess Americans are just wrong in every possible way!
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
paksam
Profile Joined November 2010
143 Posts
February 21 2011 18:06 GMT
#231
imo this has less to do with kelly's casting and more to do about GOM picking her to cast, you guys cant blame her if u think she's not qualified, the blame can really only lie on GOM for picking her, for those of us who didnt enjoy the commentary...stop complaining about the caster for taking advantage of a great opportunity! im all for kelly improving but GOM seriously needs to reconsider the amount they charge; i know its really not much money but for someone who doesnt work (school) and plays/watches sc2 on his free-time its not worth the money/time and that is really MY biggest problem with this whole situation(is it fair to ask people to pay to watch someone basically learning to cast? - this comes from basically everyone saying she has room to improve) GOM shouldve seriously thought this through and maybe even had code A content for free?....people should jstop with these personal attacks and direct all the anger towards something more deserving.
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2983 Posts
February 21 2011 18:12 GMT
#232
I don't think her accent is such a big issue. From a non-native english speakinbg person I'd say it's not that much worse than a heavy british accent. Her voice is definitely a little annoying though but you can't really help that.

As for the commentating itself I thought she was doing ok, don't forget that the cast needs to appeal to a large number of ppl, not just to master leaguers who can see all the details. 75% of all kind of sports/games commentating is about obvious things.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
February 21 2011 18:17 GMT
#233
On February 22 2011 02:57 ziggymondais wrote:
Show nested quote +
She really has nothing helpful/interesting to say and some things are just wrong...

Is she really plat.league?

If you're not mid or high in masters, you shouldn't be allowed to cast!


Okay, if we're going to use that bar, who is allowed to cast these days? I don't think many casters are in mid-high masters. Heck, I'm not even sure if Day[9] is in masters, but that's also because he probably ladders on a ghost account. Are Chill, DjWheat, JP, or any other casters in masters? Only progamers that are usually playing in the tournaments are probably in masters.

Knowledge of the game comes in many ways, and I'm sure there are spectators that are extremely knowledgeable about the game simply by watching matches since people learn in different ways.


Is it really that strange to expect professional casters, who get paid to cast the most prestigious tournament with the best players, to actually be good players on their own? I think you have to be at least near Master League level to really catch most of the stuff that goes on in a game, especially since higher level games often get decided by small details. Pretty much all decent casters can play at quite a high level, even when we are talking random amateur streams for those 100$ dollar tournaments and such. Almost all of the casters are mid-high diamond at the very least and quite a few are master and play a ton of games.
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Suxces
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany103 Posts
February 21 2011 18:23 GMT
#234
imo, as a non native english speaker it's just hard to follow and understand.
with artosis and tasteless everything was crystal clear, just like a professional caster should be.

i hope it gets much better or the old casting duo has to come back to cast code A.
goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 18:31:00
February 21 2011 18:24 GMT
#235
She's not nearly as bad as alot of people make her out to be, but there are times when I can't actually understand what she's saying. Not like I'm missing much anyway, she's not terribly insightful at all, kind of like tasteless. Nowhere near the same chemistry as tastetosis, but then again, they're (tastless/artosis) IRL buds, so it makes sense that they'd be funnier than tasteless/her or artosis/her.

All in all, she needs improvement, but she's not really ruining the games, so whatever.

On February 22 2011 03:06 paksam wrote:
imo this has less to do with kelly's casting and more to do about GOM picking her to cast, you guys cant blame her if u think she's not qualified, the blame can really only lie on GOM for picking her, for those of us who didnt enjoy the commentary...stop complaining about the caster for taking advantage of a great opportunity! im all for kelly improving but GOM seriously needs to reconsider the amount they charge; i know its really not much money but for someone who doesnt work (school) and plays/watches sc2 on his free-time its not worth the money/time and that is really MY biggest problem with this whole situation(is it fair to ask people to pay to watch someone basically learning to cast? - this comes from basically everyone saying she has room to improve) GOM shouldve seriously thought this through and maybe even had code A content for free?....people should jstop with these personal attacks and direct all the anger towards something more deserving.


Well, criticism isn't really personal attacks. I mean, there is probably people in this thread who are being asses (like all the other threads on this subject thus far), but really, she can't improve if nobody tells her what she does wrong.

And as for the gom prices, I'm a student on loans, and I think it's pretty reasonable for the amount of hours I spend watching it. I entertain myself for about 50 hours a season on ten dollars? That's alot better than most films, and it still has the capability to be rewatched.
accela
Profile Joined February 2010
Greece314 Posts
February 21 2011 18:29 GMT
#236
On February 22 2011 03:03 C.W. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 02:59 thebigdonkey wrote:
On February 22 2011 02:52 SkCom wrote:
Am I the only one who, while not liking her accent, doesn't care about it, but is rather annoyed by her attitude?
There have been numerous replies in the threads about her with screenshots and proof that she is quite self-centered, doesn't take criticism well (there was this one guy with such a well-constructed post and she basically told him to fuck off if he doesn't like it) and looks for attention every opportunity she gets.

The accent, ok, it might be tough for some people, but we can get over it if she was really a good and likable person with a sense of humor and added something to the casts. Which she, simply put, is not; and that is not going to change, because people don't change their personalities over a week, a month, or a year. Right now the only thing she's adding is "she's cute/female" and some people obsess over that.

She was also very unprofessional with Tasteless today, going as far as touching him when he was obviously uncomfortable with it.

I'm concerned about the image of professional casters when I see her name associated with the profession.

It's not about her as a person, I could really care less and it changes nothing in my little nerdy life.

It's about the bigger picture and the image of eSports.


Perhaps the best post in the thread. Sadly, I don't think very many people can be objective about this issue. It is too polarizing.


I heavily agree - very good post and probably the thing about her that I am not comfortable about as well, but couldn't detect.


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Coriolis
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
February 21 2011 18:30 GMT
#237
On February 22 2011 02:47 ilikeLIONZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 18:47 WTL wrote:


"zee-lot"


so insightful.

isn't that the correct pronounciation? i know that ppl say it differently, but that's correct afaik!^^

I've always heard and pronounced it as zel-et. According to webster its the correct pronunciation.

Anyways I can understand her until a battle starts. Then I catch about half of what shes saying because she seems to slur her words when she gets excited. I have eyeballs so I suppose its good enough, but tbh I wish gom would have picked someone with less of an accent. I also didn't like how whenever something was happening it was always referenced to her own play and not really explaining any reasons for why the player was doing it. I'll probably give her another season but if she still sucks after 2 season the mute button will be clicked.
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Devilgoat
Profile Joined January 2011
Korea (South)41 Posts
February 21 2011 18:30 GMT
#238
WTB Artosis

Can't listen to her, too bad, Code A was looking so good this season with all the foreigners.
Disciple7
Profile Joined August 2010
United States198 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 18:34:18
February 21 2011 18:33 GMT
#239
On February 22 2011 02:52 SkCom wrote:
Am I the only one who, while not liking her accent, doesn't care about it, but is rather annoyed by her attitude?
There have been numerous replies in the threads about her with screenshots and proof that she is quite self-centered, doesn't take criticism well (there was this one guy with such a well-constructed post and she basically told him to fuck off if he doesn't like it) and looks for attention every opportunity she gets.



Her taking the microphone every time she was about to talk was a huge tell that she's self-centered, so this doesn't come as a surprise to me, and might be problem if she lets that attitude carry over into dual casts.


On February 22 2011 02:55 C.W. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 02:49 Disciple7 wrote:
WAIT WAIT WAIT, why have I not seen any comments on how hot the girl on the left is? Does she play SC o_o???

And I feel like Kelly may be fine as long as she's like the secondary caster, she's too much energy to be primary and definitely too much energy to be solo. Her game knowledge is good enough that if the primary role is being filled by someone else, she will be able to make insightful comments on what IS happening, however she is not insightful enough to commentate on what is GOING to happen.


Have you seen her teeth?
Not going to go any further here b/c her looks have nothing to do with casting.


Was not talking about kelly, talking about the interviewer chick =P.
A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. -Winston Churchill
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
February 21 2011 18:34 GMT
#240
On February 22 2011 03:17 Lann555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 02:57 ziggymondais wrote:
She really has nothing helpful/interesting to say and some things are just wrong...

Is she really plat.league?

If you're not mid or high in masters, you shouldn't be allowed to cast!


Okay, if we're going to use that bar, who is allowed to cast these days? I don't think many casters are in mid-high masters. Heck, I'm not even sure if Day[9] is in masters, but that's also because he probably ladders on a ghost account. Are Chill, DjWheat, JP, or any other casters in masters? Only progamers that are usually playing in the tournaments are probably in masters.

Knowledge of the game comes in many ways, and I'm sure there are spectators that are extremely knowledgeable about the game simply by watching matches since people learn in different ways.


Is it really that strange to expect professional casters, who get paid to cast the most prestigious tournament with the best players, to actually be good players on their own? I think you have to be at least near Master League level to really catch most of the stuff that goes on in a game, especially since higher level games often get decided by small details. Pretty much all decent casters can play at quite a high level, even when we are talking random amateur streams for those 100$ dollar tournaments and such. Almost all of the casters are mid-high diamond at the very least and quite a few are master and play a ton of games.



Dude, that's like saying an American Football narrator should be able to get in the field with those 4meters tall monsters and have no problems to score touchdowns...

It just makes no sense.

Your knowledge might be improoved a lot if you do play, but that doesn't mean you have to play to have the knowledge.

//tx
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