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Interview with Code A caster KellyMilkies - Page 10

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Slago
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada726 Posts
February 21 2011 17:00 GMT
#181
She did pretty well but I would definately prefer Jason Lee to do the casting his voice is so pleasant, as oppposed to the harsh accent of kellies, she is pretty knowledgable, nice, and funny, but the accent is pretty hard to understand at points.
I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of... ah forget it
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
February 21 2011 17:01 GMT
#182
I like her enthusiasm and sorry Artosis, but she's cuter than you. Her game knowledge is good enough for a cocaster and she'll grow, also with feeling the flow of duocasting, knowing when to speak and when to hold a moment.

The big problem is her accent. Her vocabulary is fine, but I often cannot hear what she's saying.
She often tends to not pronounce the last syllable of a word, volume goes down to the end of a word. Especially for non native English speakers like me it's quite hard to follow what she's saying at those moments.

Thing is, a friend of mine had the same issue, I often couldn't make sense of him even in my own language. He got some lessons for a few month and he's perfectly understandable now.
This problem can be fixed with english pronounciation/articulation lessons.

Another thing is the high pitch of her voice, which tends to be annoying/nagging/not fun to listen to for the male brain. This is easy to fix with equilizing the vods and the stream.

So no big problems that can't be solved, besides that she's doing fine imo. I like a girl having the guts to try this, knowing there will always be flamewars.

Tasteless got a lot of hate too at the start of GSL1, John did, the observer did. Give people a chance and they can grow.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Aaayaaa
Profile Joined December 2010
United States88 Posts
February 21 2011 17:03 GMT
#183
Her accent is a problem. She is a problem. This isn't like the first day of the terribad observer. This is a real issue. The casting today was not on the level of the what the biggest SC2 tournament should be. For those crying sexism...This was an affirmative female action choice. Someone like Torch is so blatantly better suited for the role, but instead they went for a chick because they thought that male viewers would enjoy that more.
Everything is exactly right.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 17:13:37
February 21 2011 17:04 GMT
#184
just watched G1 of Huk vs Curious

aside from Kelly's accent being difficult to understand at times, I don't think her commentating style is bad.

I'm not sure if someone has mentioned this yet but the one positive that will come out of this is that Tasteless and Artosis will be focusing more on commentating Code A games than going off on tangents and creating inside jokes since they're split up for Code A.

The casting today was not on the level of the what the biggest SC2 tournament should be.


maybe you didn't watch GSL 4 Code A games, but Tasteless and Artosis spent more time trashing Code A than being more professional toward the biggest SC2 tournament.

also anyone that complains Kelly's knowledge base should also be complaining about Tasteless's knowledge base.
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
thebigdonkey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States354 Posts
February 21 2011 17:04 GMT
#185
On February 22 2011 01:36 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 01:29 thebigdonkey wrote:
The one abiding question I have for everyone who says "she could improve" is...why should we have to accept someone that needs to improve to be at an average level for the position they hold? Especially in a position that's supposed to represent the pinnacle of the craft (or at least it does on the players' side). Would we accept a President/Prime Minister who *might* be good someday, but for now the best that could be said about him/her is that they *might* improve? I feel like this is a position, especially because there are paying customers, where you should be good before you arrive, not a position that you grow into.

It really is a difficult situation to judge because of her sex. We live in such a confused society. On the one hand, we try to pretend that gender doesn't matter, but on the other hand, I feel like we make extra excuses or grant extra leeway in light of gender. I feel like that if she were a male native of singapore with the same accent, she would not have nearly as many apologists but also maybe not as many passionate haters (which to be frank is just a backlash for all of the apologists). But I do feel like the feedback would be more unanimously negative.

Didn't we have exact the same thing with the new observer?
the first few days you couldn't look besides the hate posts and he improved and look where he is now.
i say give her a couple days/around a week before you start hating.
and lol at comparing this to an election, guess what, you don't decide anything here.


I didn't compare it to an election, I compared it to someone in a role that would be at the pinnacle of their profession and that person not being up to the task immediately.

and lol at comparing the learning curve of an observer to that of a caster (see what I did there?)
MerciLess
Profile Joined September 2010
213 Posts
February 21 2011 17:07 GMT
#186
I'm assuming all the people who are okay with her game knowledge are either new to the game or have not actually heard her casting. Seriously, if you think she knows what she is talking about then please explain to me why you think that. She talks about starcraft like she's some guy's girlfriend who watches him play from time to time and tries to talk to his friends about it to fit in.
Pinith
Profile Joined September 2010
651 Posts
February 21 2011 17:07 GMT
#187
I thought she made for better casting than just about any of the other substitute casters we've seen in the GSL (better than all other than Idra in my opinion). Also, I find Kelly easier to understand than many European casters.
SilverPotato
Profile Joined July 2010
United States560 Posts
February 21 2011 17:07 GMT
#188
On February 22 2011 02:03 Aaayaaa wrote:
Her accent is a problem. She is a problem. This isn't like the first day of the terribad observer. This is a real issue. The casting today was not on the level of the what the biggest SC2 tournament should be. For those crying sexism...This was an affirmative female action choice. Someone like Torch is so blatantly better suited for the role, but instead they went for a chick because they thought that male viewers would enjoy that more.

I'd like to see you do better
"The ability to learn faster than your competitors may be the only sustainable competitive advantage." ~Arie de Geus
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
February 21 2011 17:07 GMT
#189
On February 22 2011 01:59 Clicker wrote:
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On February 22 2011 01:56 Sqq wrote:
Some of you in this thread and the GSL Code A thread are down right embarrassing. I can't believe the shite some of you spout. If you have a problem with her as a caster, show her (and us) the respect of being constructive in your posts. I'm sure she wouldn't mind some ideas for ways she can improve. Just look at what Artosis and Tasteless said. They read the constructive criticism and took it to heart. The random bashing that is towards Kelis is downright shite.

It's hard to take this seriously with your signature.


Good point that, haha.
Dead girls don't say no.
fainez
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States91 Posts
February 21 2011 17:10 GMT
#190
I don't see what all the fuss is about. I thought she was fine.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
February 21 2011 17:12 GMT
#191
On one hand, I'm fine with her accent since I grew up listening to a ton of broken, Asian-ized English.

However, her in-game knowledge just doesn't seem as profound or as correct as that of Artosis or even Tasteless, which is the biggest part that bothers me. I guess it's somewhat unfair to compare her analysis to that of Artosis, who is the Starcraft/random knowledge wiki.

However, I find it a bit irritating when a large percentage of her in-game analytical predictions don't come true, whereas many more of Artosis's predictions end up being correct. However, I think it's mainly due to the overall difference in casting and playing experience between Kelly and Artosis, and I'm sure that a couple more days with either of the Tastosis guys will straighten up her analysis.
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Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
February 21 2011 17:16 GMT
#192
Tasteless is in an uncomfortable role for him too atm. Making the casting flow not as smooth as it would have been if she was in Artosis chair
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
vdek
Profile Joined May 2010
United States267 Posts
February 21 2011 17:22 GMT
#193
On February 22 2011 01:53 GreEny K wrote:
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On February 22 2011 01:07 Niick wrote:
On February 22 2011 00:35 riptide wrote:
On February 21 2011 23:58 zeru wrote:
On February 21 2011 23:39 Markus138 wrote:
On February 21 2011 22:49 Annq wrote:
There should always be a native english speaker commenting the GSL


she is a native english speaker.

Yeah, so are people from trinidad. Doesnt mean they speak english that is understandable to everyone.

There is no one who speaks English that is understandable to everyone. That's not the way language and accents work.


But casters must please the superior Americans, because they invented the language.

User was temp banned for this post.


Ok you got a well deserved ban for that but I still feel the need to tell you what an idiot you are.

And I really don't understand why people bitch so much about her accent, it isn't that bad. If you can't understand her then I think there might be a bigger problem with you then with her.


Could you please elaborate and tell me what is wrong with me then? Because I can only understand about 20% of what she is saying unless I focus trying to understand her. That's not something I find pleasant because I like to relax when I watch GSL...
mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
February 21 2011 17:25 GMT
#194
Just watched Losira vs Legalmind... she wasn't nearly as bad as I was expecting from all the whining. Better than the new obs was at first for sure. I assume the eventual goal of Gom is to have nonstop team league and well as two individual leagues running like BW does. That is going to require a lot of casters and will take a long time to develop a full crew with good chemistry. I trust that Kelly showed the most potential of those that applied, not just individually but as a future team member, and look forward to seeing her progress as the observer did. Mute it if you don't like it but I'd recommend getting used to her, I don't think she's going away.
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Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
February 21 2011 17:25 GMT
#195
On February 21 2011 19:19 kickinhead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 18:44 Wilko wrote:
On February 21 2011 18:37 WTL wrote:
On February 21 2011 18:37 Wilko wrote:
she actually has more game-knowledge than Artosis, so im completely fine with it


Is that a joke?


I don't wanna take away Artosis' vocal skills, they are just insane
But you should listen to her closely
She really knows what's going on all the time and (without being able to observe the game herself) and has really good game-understanding


She really has nothing helpful/interesting to say and some things are just wrong...

Is she really plat.league?

If you're not mid or high in masters, you shouldn't be allowed to cast!


That's just stupid...

Just because she isn't high on the ladder, it doesn't mean she can't have game knowledge.

//tx

"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
Blizzard_torments_me
Profile Joined February 2010
Romania199 Posts
February 21 2011 17:29 GMT
#196
Well she's pretty hot so I'll accept her.
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
February 21 2011 17:30 GMT
#197
On February 22 2011 02:07 Pinith wrote:
I thought she made for better casting than just about any of the other substitute casters we've seen in the GSL (better than all other than Idra in my opinion). Also, I find Kelly easier to understand than many European casters.


Even IPP is easier to understand than Kelly, because he knows he has a problem and works on it. Hope she can have such determination.
canilsen
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway286 Posts
February 21 2011 17:31 GMT
#198
At first it was annoying and hard to understand what she was saying, but it really improved. She and Tasteless was making a good combo.
On the other hand, Tasteless really took control and made this go as smooth as possible!
when I am king you will be first against the wall
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 17:33:25
February 21 2011 17:33 GMT
#199
i couldn't watch GSL this morning, but from that video in the first post I think her accent isn't nearly as bad as most people said... but she's still not as sexy as artosis :D

hopefully i can watch tomorrow
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
February 21 2011 17:33 GMT
#200
On February 22 2011 02:10 fainez wrote:
I don't see what all the fuss is about. I thought she was fine.


This. I thought she did absolutely fantastic, especially for her first set of games in the GSL. People just like to complain about anything.
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