EPTIf your point is "lots of people applied, and clearly they could have chosen someone better," then I am inclined to agree. (That said, given how late she bought a plane ticket and how expensive that probably is compared to what they're paying her, I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't making extremely generous offers and several others turned them down.) But most people in this thread who are critical are being idiotically harsh.
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aristarchus
United States652 Posts
If your point is "lots of people applied, and clearly they could have chosen someone better," then I am inclined to agree. (That said, given how late she bought a plane ticket and how expensive that probably is compared to what they're paying her, I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't making extremely generous offers and several others turned them down.) But most people in this thread who are critical are being idiotically harsh. | ||
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Niick
Australia426 Posts
On February 22 2011 00:35 riptide wrote: There is no one who speaks English that is understandable to everyone. That's not the way language and accents work. But casters must please the superior Americans, because they invented the language. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On February 22 2011 00:49 coddan wrote: But there's a difference between 50% having trouble understanding, and 1%. That's all nice but where do you get those awesome stats from? and don't say "but more ppl complaining" cause the ppl that will complain will obviously post more then ppl it wont bother (like me). | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On February 21 2011 23:58 zeru wrote: Yeah, so are people from trinidad. Doesnt mean they speak english that is understandable to everyone. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_where_English_is_an_official_language I'm sorry, but really, don't include "everyone" when you just assume people speak like you guys. English is universal, but not your English. American, Australia, various European English accents are just some of a large number of accents people speak in this world. If you count by the population that speak English, then Indian accent is the accent that people speak the most. Hell, even Philippines or Pakistan has more popular accent than Australia. I don't see what's wrong with her accent. I'm quite comfortable with it. Too bad if you guys who doesn't go outside to meet the world too much can't understand it. Her game knowledge is good too. Sometimes she's offsync a little bit with Tasteless, creating awkward moment, but that's mostly because of nervousness. Her game knowledge is good, at least for me. I for once don't notice that Losira loves his baneling and used it a lot in all his previous games, or Huk has Beiber's hair. | ||
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Quasimoto3000
United States471 Posts
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thebigdonkey
United States354 Posts
It really is a difficult situation to judge because of her sex. We live in such a confused society. On the one hand, we try to pretend that gender doesn't matter, but on the other hand, I feel like we make extra excuses or grant extra leeway in light of gender. I feel like that if she were a male native of singapore with the same accent, she would not have nearly as many apologists but also maybe not as many passionate haters (which to be frank is just a backlash for all of the apologists). But I do feel like the feedback would be more unanimously negative. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On February 22 2011 01:29 thebigdonkey wrote: The one abiding question I have for everyone who says "she could improve" is...why should we have to accept someone that needs to improve to be at an average level for the position they hold? Especially in a position that's supposed to represent the pinnacle of the craft (or at least it does on the players' side). Would we accept a President/Prime Minister who *might* be good someday, but for now the best that could be said about him/her is that they *might* improve? I feel like this is a position, especially because there are paying customers, where you should be good before you arrive, not a position that you grow into. It really is a difficult situation to judge because of her sex. We live in such a confused society. On the one hand, we try to pretend that gender doesn't matter, but on the other hand, I feel like we make extra excuses or grant extra leeway in light of gender. I feel like that if she were a male native of singapore with the same accent, she would not have nearly as many apologists but also maybe not as many passionate haters (which to be frank is just a backlash for all of the apologists). But I do feel like the feedback would be more unanimously negative. Didn't we have exact the same thing with the new observer? the first few days you couldn't look besides the hate posts and he improved and look where he is now. i say give her a couple days/around a week before you start hating. and lol at comparing this to an election, guess what, you don't decide anything here. | ||
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Synche
United States1345 Posts
It's not because of her sex. I hate people saying that. I hate people saying she's a pretty face to look at, too. She's being given leeway because this is esports and Starcraft 2, and beggars can't be choosers, even though we try to be. She's being given leeway because we're stuck with her for a season whether we like it or not, and people are going to put up with it and see if she can get better. GOM can't fire her immediately. Everyone who says her accent is fine by them, cool. I'm happy at your abilities. The problem is many people truly can't understand her easily, and it's not the tiny minority either. It's a sizable portion of people. In my mind GOM can't simply alienate such a large percentage of such a small viewership and think their tournament is going to grow. It was a poor business decision that, I hope, will turn out well for all involved. | ||
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oxxo
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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Ayush_SCtoss
India3050 Posts
Plus John? I don't think accent is the problem. She just needs to speak slowly. That's all. Either way I shall support you! Gl and improve some moar. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On February 22 2011 01:07 Niick wrote: But casters must please the superior Americans, because they invented the language. User was temp banned for this post. Ok you got a well deserved ban for that but I still feel the need to tell you what an idiot you are. And I really don't understand why people bitch so much about her accent, it isn't that bad. If you can't understand her then I think there might be a bigger problem with you then with her. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Then again, people in here have been saying that her accent gives non-native speakers a hard time...to be honest I don't see how her accent could be classified as "heavy." 95% of what she says, she says it clearly, it's only her r's that are different. As for her game knowledge, I have no idea how she is, so I assume she'll be able to learn very quickly (just like the observer for Tastosis) Edit: for example, I think John has a heavier accent but I understand him fine too. To the guy a couple posts above: I was born in India too, now I don't have an accent but maybe you're right, we can understand her perfectly because we've experienced more diversity in accents. | ||
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MerciLess
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
On February 21 2011 20:54 dan1mal wrote: No-one is saying her english has to be perfect, but Honestly her voice is almost impossible to listen to, and its not because its "her voices is to high because shes a woman", she just has an anoying voice... And regardless of how good her english is, or how anoying her voice is. Her game knowledge just isnt good enough to cast the GSL. I mean it is the freaking gsl, THE most prestigious tournament there is atm, therefore it should have casters who know EXACTLY what they're talking about.. This is a good summary of how I feel after listening today. i.e. Close your eyes and listen to Rachel's voice vs Kelly's, regardless of the accent the pitch is much more grating for Kelly. Granted she was better than her VoDs (I'm guessing because the mic/sound system was much clearer than her at-home mics) today, I still found myself tuning her out. | ||
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Sqq
Norway2023 Posts
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Rabiator
Germany3948 Posts
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Clicker
United States1012 Posts
On February 22 2011 01:56 Sqq wrote: Some of you in this thread and the GSL Code A thread are down right embarrassing. I can't believe the shite some of you spout. If you have a problem with her as a caster, show her (and us) the respect of being constructive in your posts. I'm sure she wouldn't mind some ideas for ways she can improve. Just look at what Artosis and Tasteless said. They read the constructive criticism and took it to heart. The random bashing that is towards Kelis is downright shite. It's hard to take this seriously with your signature. | ||
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Carl_Sagan
United States226 Posts
On February 22 2011 01:47 oxxo wrote: They're seriously going to use her? There's a reason in the US that almost all newscasters have to learn a Midwestern 'accent' (neutral/no accent). Because most people are xenophobic asshats? This isn't a good thing -.- Becoming comfortable with a (not very bad at all) accent like Kelly's is trivial. | ||
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CluEleSs_UK
United Kingdom583 Posts
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