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littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
February 20 2011 06:06 GMT
#41
does...this...new...generation...of...gamers...lack...heart?
i'm...tired...of...people...not...conforming...to...my...point...of...view....
...what's...the...deal...?
Entusman #12
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
February 20 2011 06:12 GMT
#42
This happened in Brood Wars also, so don't think it's new.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
February 20 2011 06:16 GMT
#43
On February 20 2011 14:55 Tatari wrote:
Bronze people fail to make any more than 20 probes and think that that's all they can work with. Plus, in that league, people only practice executing their cheeses and if shit hits the fan, they don't know how to transition out of it.

That's big overgeneralization, especially since there is extreme difference between bad and good players in bronze. Bad ones are just like you describe : never expand, 6-20 workers, cheese and mass voidray , the good ones play somewhat correctly, just have bad execution, like forgetting building workers for periods of time, bad macro, bad multitasking and they sometimes do not understand the matchup(ie, expanding in PvP in close positions without having advantage), but they are expanding, having mostly good unit comps, trying to play macro game. Then there is third group, those that are resonably good at cheesing and know how to cheese
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
February 20 2011 06:17 GMT
#44
On February 20 2011 14:42 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2011 14:20 mcc wrote:
Actually there is a lot of truth in people in bronze leaving for no apparent reason after their first attack fails to kill you even if their attack was even trade in material and not all-in. Fortunately it gets better pretty fast higher in the ladder.
And there are also some zergs that only 6 pool, every game, and quit immediately if they see a wallin or their attack does not kill you in 2 minutes One of my friends actually all-inned everyone in placement matches and ended up in platinum, when that stopped working he tried out broodlord rush and when that did not really work, quit 1v1s


Even by the top of bronze, players start doing mostly sensible things. The difference between high bronze and low diamond is really just mechanics, for the most part.

That is my experience as well.
Popsycle
Profile Joined September 2010
34 Posts
February 20 2011 06:19 GMT
#45
ladder is retarded because its boring, no matter what rating people do 4 gates, or all ins because they want to end the game in 5 minutes and get high rating so they think "they're good." Only time you get a decent game on a ladder is when you fight a "known" player. Funner to do Customs with friends that are good.
underdawg
Profile Joined January 2011
United States399 Posts
February 20 2011 06:31 GMT
#46
On February 20 2011 13:50 purecarnagge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2011 13:26 underdawg wrote:
Wait are you bronze or good as you say? In any case, people learning to play the game don't have a good sense of what they can come back from. They might not even know that workers can attack and what not. And people might quit once you start being an asshole. They could be little kids for all you know.

I don't recall saying I was good. All I said is I wouldn't quit. I'm pretty much a gold player more than likely if you take my terrible zvz out of it. I play a few times a week...night classes regular 8-5pm job...etc...if I played 2-4 hours a night I'm sure I would improve...

Making one statement doesn't mean your an asshole. If it does then take your emo *** home and and put your ear muffs on.

You spent 3 random paragraphs talking about your style when it had nothing to do with your point. You "insta remax." But cool story overall.
Qzy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Denmark1121 Posts
February 20 2011 06:41 GMT
#47
On February 20 2011 15:19 Popsycle wrote:
ladder is retarded because its boring, no matter what rating people do 4 gates, or all ins because they want to end the game in 5 minutes and get high rating so they think "they're good." Only time you get a decent game on a ladder is when you fight a "known" player. Funner to do Customs with friends that are good.


What in the what now?

At 2500+ masters, you get some pretty intensive macro games that takes 30 min.
I don't understand the OP .. if you are winning that easily - get in a higher league, challenge master league players.
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Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
February 20 2011 06:46 GMT
#48
Idra is notorious for seemingly quitting early, but it's because those games are already over in his opinion considering the caliber of the people he plays against. Bronze players though, are different and OP, you have a point in that pretty much anything can happen at the bronze level so why not try sticking around for a little longer.

I think that in many of the cases you've mentioned, people are losing opportunities to practice following up when the only strategies they know how to execute fail by quitting early.

The thing here is though, that not everyone's priority is practicing hard and improving. Some people just want to casually play and have fun, and playing 10 minutes longer in a game you know you've fallen quite behind is not a very attractive option for them. Some people will also just ragequit when they get angry about something that didn't go their way.

Just realize that people have different personalities while playing this game and try to understand them. Not everyone thinks like you do, and it's really their choice what they do with their games.

I did one attack on people...and simply told them I am better than you, you can just quit now. GG. I actually had 5 people leave the games.


I'm not sure why you did this though. I honestly dislike offensive BM more than anything.
mvpAKAenvyME
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada179 Posts
February 20 2011 06:53 GMT
#49
On February 20 2011 12:01 Frugalicious wrote:

Staying in longer is often considered impolite and a waste of time. You are dragging on a game that has realistically ended.


I agree. But you see people in GSL staying in for 5 minutes when they've clearly lost...
Denia1
Profile Joined January 2011
148 Posts
February 20 2011 07:25 GMT
#50
I find exactly the opposite to be annoying, people who fail and then sit there and wait until you kill all their buildings or turtle and allow you to take the map. There is really no reason to try and do ridiculous comebacks, if you failed a 4-gate, just gg. There is no good reason to sit there try and expand, fail and then sit on ur ramp and throw forcefields until it's 200/200 vs.100/200.
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fauxreal
Profile Joined October 2010
United States67 Posts
February 20 2011 09:06 GMT
#51
Keep playing, get out of bronze.
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-20 09:25:46
February 20 2011 09:24 GMT
#52
i think its good to quit early.
i see often in custom games against lower liges that they deny to gg out.
As a result they missunderstand the game. To give you a example:

tvz: the zerg trys to 6 pool me and i defend. game is over but he dont leave.
i want to test timing for my building so i just macro up. than i take my gold and kill his 3.
game is over again but he dont gg out. I take my 4 and 5 and harazz his main.
He atacks with mass ultralist and my 33 rines killes them. After the game the z messige me:
ultralisk sucks so bad what to build against mass rine in endgame?
Lower lige see a long good macro game but the game was over after 6 pool an it was just me not killing him to train some building timings.
if you gg out at the 6 pool you would think: k 6 pool is shit lets try something else
and improve over time...


if you gg out after a big mistake you will remember this mistake.
and know why you lost and have a chance to do better next game.
if you stay in the game you start to forget what really lost you the game.
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Touch
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada475 Posts
February 20 2011 09:24 GMT
#53
Advance in ladder, and we'll start messaging you about why you quit.
Sieg
FGsBluTosS
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada4 Posts
February 20 2011 09:26 GMT
#54
it makes them frustrated. thats just it.
Flawless Victory
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
February 20 2011 09:29 GMT
#55
On February 20 2011 11:54 purecarnagge wrote:
bread fear


I has it to, I'm allergic to wheat.

Just to point some things out.

1. You sound pretty arrogant for a bronze league player.
2. Telling someone you're better than them and they should quit is extremely rude
3. If a 3 rax or a 4 gate fails, you probably should leave, because you're probably going to lose unless you did good damage
4. If you won most of your matches you wouldn't be in bronze league anymore. Enjoy your wins, learn from your losses.
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
February 20 2011 09:34 GMT
#56
In bronze, if you kill 6 of their probes, it's probably all their probes.
The higher up you get the more probes they have and the less prone they are to leave after they have lost 6 probes.
Therefore you get longer games and better opponents, that's how matchmaking works.

Just keep doing the ling runby until you can't, then you know you are against someone who is better than you and you learn.
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uSnAmplified
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1029 Posts
February 20 2011 09:36 GMT
#57
If something goes horribly wrong i dont want to practice recovering after playing bad, i want to practice not playing bad and ending up in that situation in the first place.

Also i pretty much know if i could possibly make a comeback or not depending on the situation.
im not going to waste 10 minutes of my life when i know i have lost for the sake of "heart". Im a real person trying to practice, not some corny anime hero who magically wins games because of heart.
~
Lucid971
Profile Joined January 2011
United States42 Posts
February 20 2011 09:45 GMT
#58
Staying in a game thats an uphill battle is one thing, I've actually found that there are a few times that I was thinking to myself, hmmm should I just leave and I stay in the game and end up winning because the opponent failed to capatalize. Of course with zerg its easier to drone up again.

You will find playing out a game that you think you lost is also good micro practice :D
“I will not tiptoe through life, only to arrive safely at death”
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
February 20 2011 09:51 GMT
#59
Douche post. So obvious.
Xanatoss
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany539 Posts
February 20 2011 10:05 GMT
#60
What a boring brag.
You're the best dude. See you in some weeks @ the Strategy Forum asking why you cant break Masters.

scnr
The chair slowly turns around. You see his face, but it can't be. He's not supposed to be here. Not him. Not a Protoss. Not THAT Protoss. MC says, "Hi Greg, long time no see." You back slowly out of the booth. But you can't. It's already forcefielded.
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