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MPQ Editing is not endorsed by Teamliquid nor is it recommended as Blizzard actively takes steps to stop and prevent it.

Be warned and do this at your own peril.

-Nyovne
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
February 16 2011 18:24 GMT
#141
Dang it's going to be really hard not to change my background now.
Wtfux
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Northern Ireland163 Posts
February 16 2011 18:29 GMT
#142
I have been using the korean sounds for Starcraft 2 for ages now and no bans incoming, I would like to give this a go, and sure if I do get banned for changing this, SC2 is cheap anyway :-D
ZnyX
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark44 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 18:43:22
February 16 2011 18:33 GMT
#143
Alright, normally i just browse the forums. But i am gonna jump in here and drop some information regarding this.

Modifying MPQ's has always been against the ToS, no doubt about that. Blizzard has stated several times in WoWs history, that they dont 'like' it.

However, Blizzards anti cheating tool, in this case warden. Cannot, will not, and has never looked or done anything towards file manipulation of MPQs, Warden scans the address space of SC2, WoW. Not the files.

What Blizzard did implement, and keeps 'patching' at times, for WoW to stop or somehow hinder MPQ changes, was a file called scan.dll. It sits inside your WoW directory, and whenever you delete the file, open wow it will redownload it. What it did, was search for MPQ manipulation, as soon as you opened the application(wow) it would pop up and give you this message

''Model edits has been detected, please repair or reinstall World of Warcraft'' this warning was as soon as you opened wow, BEFORE you logged in. No harm was done towards accounts, none banned or suspended, you simply just couldnt use WoW until the manipulated MPQ was removed from the directory. I see no reason why SC2 would be any different, Warden is the same in SC2 as WoW. No MPQ scanning tools is implemented for SC2 as of now, but i would expect the same thing if people found 'serious' ways of manipulating models, like making DTs visible and so on.

Either way, 99.9% sure this aint gonna harm no one, it never has.

UPDATE:

A little update on the whole WoW story.

Back when Blizzard implemented the scan.dll, someone created an application to run WoW from that bypassed the scan. So people once again could use model edits. Blizzard still never banned for it. Ever since Wrath of the Lich king, scan.dll started to have no effect on model edits, MPQ manipulation. No application was suddenly needed, just dropping an MPQ file within the /data folder succesfully changed a model, like this picture for SC2.

Ever since Wrath, nothing has been done to MPQ manipulation. I honestly think, Blizzard has stopped to care.
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
February 16 2011 18:39 GMT
#144
ZnyX - a lot thanks for the investigation
stevarius
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1394 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 18:42:45
February 16 2011 18:42 GMT
#145
I changed mine. If I get banned for it, so be it. The medic is by any means worth the risk.

Why can't we edit the picture ourselves via some option in the game? *IDEA BLIZZARD*

Anyone know where I can get the Korean sounds?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
LangJaiQQ
Profile Joined November 2010
Vietnam38 Posts
February 16 2011 19:28 GMT
#146
I downloaded it and replaced it in the sc 2 folder. After playing some game, my screen started to flicker. This never happened before. I then had to restart my computer and remove & replace the fie.
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
February 16 2011 20:11 GMT
#147
On February 17 2011 04:28 LangJaiQQ wrote:
I downloaded it and replaced it in the sc 2 folder. After playing some game, my screen started to flicker. This never happened before. I then had to restart my computer and remove & replace the fie.


Lol... true or not.. I will now stay away. too risky ><
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
entropius
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1046 Posts
February 16 2011 20:47 GMT
#148
If Blizzard really is banning people for examining files that the SC2 client has downloaded, then I hope they get owned in the face for it, by that collection of people on the internet that are far smarter than they are. I'm talking about the folks that do things like break PS3 encryption and so forth -- Blizzard does not want to attract their attention.

Blizzard has moved toward this attitude of "We're going to make you pay for the privilege of playing our game, and you have to play it on our terms. While you're playing Starcraft, your computer belongs to us. If we choose not to fuck with it, that's purely a *choice* on our part. You have to play on our servers, and we will modify your client and do whatever the hell else we want to your computer whenever we like, and if you even try to see what we're doing, we'll ban your account without refunding the money you paid for the game". Perhaps they are entitled to do this legally, but it's a dick move, and contrary to the original attitude that made the company successful in the first place.

ihavetofartosis
Profile Joined January 2011
1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 21:37:19
February 16 2011 21:02 GMT
#149
On February 17 2011 05:47 entropius wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
If Blizzard really is banning people for examining files that the SC2 client has downloaded, then I hope they get owned in the face for it, by that collection of people on the internet that are far smarter than they are. I'm talking about the folks that do things like break PS3 encryption and so forth -- Blizzard does not want to attract their attention.

Blizzard has moved toward this attitude of "We're going to make you pay for the privilege of playing our game, and you have to play it on our terms. While you're playing Starcraft, your computer belongs to us. If we choose not to fuck with it, that's purely a *choice* on our part. You have to play on our servers, and we will modify your client and do whatever the hell else we want to your computer whenever we like, and if you even try to see what we're doing, we'll ban your account without refunding the money you paid for the game". Perhaps they are entitled to do this legally, but it's a dick move, and contrary to the original attitude that made the company successful in the first place.


Eh, if you read ZnyX post above, I think that pretty much sums it up. These mods do not give the player any sort of advantage at all, and never will be able to.

This thread inspired me to search for a way to add BW sounds to sc2 (I want my zerg to sound scary damnit) and I am now happily playing with all the BW glory (ie "Aaaah Yeah" stimpacks, overmind over the annoying queen voice, and the awesomely evil hydra voice) thanks to petergibbons' tutorial posted here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=117317&currentpage=14

I highly suggest anyone else interested to give it a go if the sc2 sounds have always annoyed you, as they did annoy me.It doesn't take much time and makes me roll zerg more than I used to (I despise the wet noodle slapping attack noise so much). Just grab the sound pack Zelniq posted on the 1st page OP, and follow peter's instructions. Also, terran's BW advisor sounds too cute ^_^
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
February 16 2011 21:05 GMT
#150
On February 17 2011 02:29 Triky wrote:
ok i know its illegal but, how can they now I did it so my account must be the banned one?
What if my friend did this and i just played at his PC but i didnt do it, they cant ban you if they dont know the account owner. They could be sued for that

They don't just randomly ban ppl you know...
and realy, good luck sueing blizzard, they will prolly absolutely own you in court since its their game and they set the rules.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
February 16 2011 21:43 GMT
#151
Blizzard might patch it so that it will check for MPQ consistency.

Why you ask? Well, if we get banned, odds are some of us will buy a second copy, meaning they make big money T.T

I think Activision-Blizzard might actually do this
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
pzea469
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1520 Posts
February 16 2011 21:46 GMT
#152
K I edited the probe background to have the blue menu stuff, and got rid of the logo.
[image loading]

If anyone wants it, here you go.
http://www.mediafire.com/?ld3b1a2nv5x5m9v

Just put it in your Battlenet.mpq/Battle.net/Shared, and back up ur old one.
Kill the Deathball
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
February 16 2011 21:58 GMT
#153
On February 17 2011 06:46 pzea469 wrote:
K I edited the probe background to have the blue menu stuff, and got rid of the logo.
[image loading]

If anyone wants it, here you go.
http://www.mediafire.com/?ld3b1a2nv5x5m9v

Just put it in your Battlenet.mpq/Battle.net/Shared, and back up ur old one.

OMG YES
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
February 16 2011 22:09 GMT
#154
This is actually so nice, Blizz really should add it
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 22:33:02
February 16 2011 22:19 GMT
#155
pzea469

Very blue-future-tech-space-techo-themed picture. Great work!


But I prefer for gold probe, and some optimizations, that will fit this picture more to Battle.net dark interface

[image loading]

http://www.multiupload.com/XO38G5IELF
Same instructions, as above
Silmakuoppaanikinko
Profile Joined November 2010
799 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 23:17:32
February 16 2011 23:15 GMT
#156
On February 16 2011 05:43 Energizer wrote:
And apparently anything you make in blizzard's editor is also owned by them through IP rights...

Just because a company says its not legal by their standards, doesnt make it true universally. No judge would rule in favor of blizzard over half their "rights" that they religiously fight for. People really need to read a few books about how the law system works

Aside from that, Love the work on it, definitely going to check it out
Someone said it.

I believe the photoshop EULA also says that by installing you agree to never call it photoshop but instead Adobe® Phoshop® Software. A lot of EULA's is just scare-tactics, no way they have any hope of suing you on that, freedom of language > companies, even in America.

This is pretty damned on the edge though, this simply depends on the judge you'll get, some'll see it your way, some'll see it their way. I do recall their being lawsuits in the past where people fought being banned for things like teamkilling, it doesn't say on the box that you can't do that and you don't modify the game, you paid for the game.

EULA's are shrinkwrap licences, you only get to view the licence after you already paid for the game, meaning that they lack a lot of the legal validity of actual agreements which you get to see before you purchase a service or good.

edit: Another thing is that you edit a client, and clients are not an account, it is perfectly legal by blizzard's terms to share a client and keep separate accounts, can they really ban you for an edit your brother made without your notice?
Workers and town centres are the ultimate counter to turtles.
pzea469
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1520 Posts
February 16 2011 23:18 GMT
#157
On February 17 2011 07:19 Existor wrote:
pzea469

Very blue-future-tech-space-techo-themed picture. Great work!


But I prefer for gold probe, and some optimizations, that will fit this picture more to Battle.net dark interface

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


http://www.multiupload.com/XO38G5IELF
Same instructions, as above

Yeah i made a blue version too but i stayed with the regular background because i like how see through the broadcast box looks like. Its a good version for those that dont like as much seethroughness though.

Also, Existor idk if you would need this, but for anyone who wants to make their own background here is a nice starter kit of what I used. BackgroundStarterKit
Just open it in photoshop and put your desired background between the two layers. Have fun!
Kill the Deathball
Qntc.YuMe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States792 Posts
February 16 2011 23:24 GMT
#158
has anyone been banned yet because of this? I am kinda scared...
megagoten
Profile Joined October 2010
318 Posts
February 16 2011 23:25 GMT
#159
On February 17 2011 08:24 DreamRaider wrote:
has anyone been banned yet because of this? I am kinda scared...

you ever get fined for jaywalking?
Qntc.YuMe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States792 Posts
February 16 2011 23:28 GMT
#160
On February 17 2011 08:25 megagoten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 08:24 DreamRaider wrote:
has anyone been banned yet because of this? I am kinda scared...

you ever get fined for jaywalking?

my friend did

But seriously, has anyone contacted blizzard if this is ok?
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