EPTIn all seriousness though anyone else watch this?
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Alberta Beef
Canada7 Posts
In all seriousness though anyone else watch this? | ||
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snafulator
Antigua/Barbuda72 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On February 07 2011 09:33 Reborn8u wrote: What do you feel the best answer to late game mass thor (10+) is in pvt? Immortals and voids get crushed by them, I am thinking colossus plus storm w/ chargelot + stalker. Should I include a few immortals though? Maybe a few voids to abuse the long AA cooldown of thors? What proportions and mix is optimal? Is there a better composition for dealing with this? Since you have probably done more experimentation with high level mech in pvt than most, I figured you would know what beats it. I know using prisms to harass is a good idea to abuse the immobility, but when them thors come a knockin at my front door how do I beat them back in a direct confrontation and how does my composition need to change to account for things like MM, or starport units being mixed in? If Thors arent supported by vikings, the best counter is carriers, or mothership. Mothership + archons vs thors = rape. You get a few archons in there with the thors, then they pop out together and bam 10 thors gone in .6 seconds. Mothership is actually pretty damn good in general, if you can get a recall off vs a meching terran it can be game, no spidermines to fuck with you in this game and mech doesnt re-position well. | ||
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SeakayKu
United States128 Posts
so... what the hell does this mean to the general public? | ||
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FILM
United States663 Posts
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bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
Ive been going 1-1-1 with banshee then viking for scouting and it seemed to do well. The reasoning is that I can get my tanks quicker for a faster midgame push as well as getting a raven out for killing creep spread. The downside is it STILL feels like midgame is a bit of an all in. Sheth told me he felt 2-rax was still the best build but it just doesnt seem like it. 1 rax expand makes me feel like i get stuck in my base forever and Im playing blind essentially. Also do you ever win cross positions metal vs zerg? :D | ||
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Lokian
United States699 Posts
I'm wondering, does the tank split in siege mode after coming out of a vortex? I don't see how a siege tank will move apart like that. | ||
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LesPhoques
Canada782 Posts
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On February 11 2011 02:08 Liquid`Jinro wrote: If Thors arent supported by vikings, the best counter is carriers, or mothership. Mothership + archons vs thors = rape. You get a few archons in there with the thors, then they pop out together and bam 10 thors gone in .6 seconds. Mothership is actually pretty damn good in general, if you can get a recall off vs a meching terran it can be game, no spidermines to fuck with you in this game and mech doesnt re-position well. What would be your ideal composition vs late game Protoss with carrier/ht/mothership? I would like to hear your opinion on late game TvP army strength. | ||
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compscidude
176 Posts
This is gettign out of hand. The company has enugh resoures and man power to balance this god damn game already. Any opinions on this? | ||
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zotok
United States66 Posts
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Tactical
United States77 Posts
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
How do I cope with playing Mech? Sometimes I feel like there is just so much shit going on that I just get overwhelmed. Everything is so slow paced, that so much money just builds up. Not to say I am not macroing good, but coming from playing Toss I'm trying to micro my units that simply don't need to be micro'd that hard. Basically, how do you cope with siege tanks + defensive structures + expanding + macro as a mech terran? It just seems so overwhelming. | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On February 12 2011 15:01 Fruscainte wrote: I felt this didn't warrant its own thread, but I would love an answer ASAP from a Terran: How do I cope with playing Mech? Sometimes I feel like there is just so much shit going on that I just get overwhelmed. Everything is so slow paced, that so much money just builds up. Not to say I am not macroing good, but coming from playing Toss I'm trying to micro my units that simply don't need to be micro'd that hard. Basically, how do you cope with siege tanks + defensive structures + expanding + macro as a mech terran? It just seems so overwhelming. vs a heavy siege tank army, you can go mass immo. If it's a more thor-heavy mech army, then you can go carrier if money allows or vr. It is VERY important to go double core immediately and get your air upgrades as soon as you can afford it. | ||
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Azzur
Australia6267 Posts
On February 12 2011 15:01 Fruscainte wrote: I felt this didn't warrant its own thread, but I would love an answer ASAP from a Terran: How do I cope with playing Mech? Sometimes I feel like there is just so much shit going on that I just get overwhelmed. Everything is so slow paced, that so much money just builds up. Not to say I am not macroing good, but coming from playing Toss I'm trying to micro my units that simply don't need to be micro'd that hard. Basically, how do you cope with siege tanks + defensive structures + expanding + macro as a mech terran? It just seems so overwhelming. I play a version of mech marine/thor/banshee later adding tank/viking against zerg. The key to my mech play is the banshee where it is used as a mobile harassment and defensive force (e.g. against run-bys and drops). Banshees are also very high dps against roaches. | ||
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SegataSan
Australia17 Posts
That's right. Those guys! The ones that hide their shit across the map and lead you on a game of cat and mouse for 30 minutes. They spam build/mine just to prolong the game. Hail the draw timer, for which will lead to our downfalls should this new generation of "no-gg'rs" remain in the game. Eliminate the draw, have a detection for this behaviour. My two-cents. | ||
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Aragos
France182 Posts
On February 10 2011 23:11 Alberta Beef wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlc0S8LLtsg&feature=player_embedded In all seriousness though anyone else watch this? Very nice  | ||
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BEARDiaguz
Australia2362 Posts
On February 07 2011 22:27 Mentymion wrote: I still don't get it why the Marines start with 45HP while other starting units have excatly the same stats as in bw. Nothing has changed for the Zerglings and Zealots even got nerfed from 100HP/60Shields to 100HP/50Shields cuz of the improved Shields reg. to compensate that. (As a Protoss player myself i must say that this improved Shield reg. is so damn stupid cuz it never actually had that much of an impact on my games. All I can do is simply to attack move with them and hope that they dont get shredded to pieces cuz retreating with Zealots on Creep/against Speedlings or Stalkers + Marines with Stim or Marauders with Concussive......its always the dead end for a zealot so this improved Shield reg is kinda non effective....but well....) The Offical reasoning behind the 45HP Marine + 10HP Combatshields was to make the Marines more effective during mit to late games, but the point is they already were good in these situations. Do they rly need those additional 5HP right at the start ? I would rather prefer a vanilla Marine with 40 HP + 15 HP Combat Shield Upgrade because that sounds more reasonable to me than the old shit. I was begging so long for this change but it never ever has appeared in the patch logs. Replays of pros always supported my Idea cuz Marine/hellions pushes are so damn strong, Zealots & Zerglings needed an additional swipe to kill the Marine,list goes on... I was even laughing hardcore where you, Jinro, actually won the last game against IdrA where he tried to 6 pool you and you built that bunker in your mineral line and got that 5HP Marine into that bunker in the very last second. Artosis even mentioned that IdrA had analysed your scouting pattern on that map and IdrA was sending his Zerglings around your scouting route....well IdrA gg'ed after the Marine was safe. I'am the only one who thinks that this 45HP Marine is to strong in beginng or do you guys think that the Zealot need his former self back ? Well, SCV's have 45 hp instead of 60. Is that ok with you? EDIT- ok, to expand a bit more on this to sound a bit less dickly... Marines nowadays got it tough compared to Broodwar (ok, not ACTUALLY true, but bear with me here, hehe). We gotta deal with larvae injected mass ling pump, early banes and early roaches. Our buddy SCV's got less health and medics now require starport tech. And 5 hp is somehow too much? | ||
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6xy
Philippines51 Posts
i dont really know when to take my third although ive noticed that after 18+ mins, most games thati win is when i manage to keep up with their production with a macro hatch. just wanted to try if i could get some feedback here since this post doesnt really warrant a big thread. I love zerg and i simply enjoy the macro mechanic, but i mostly lose. I've been considering switching races but i have second thoughts because i love playing zerg so much. but i just cant seem to get good at it. teetering at the edge of silver is not much fun. (bronze was fun) | ||
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