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Paying to watch GSL matches... Is it a good idea? - Page 4
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zeross
France310 Posts
you got all code A and code S and up and down for the price of a pizza, don't complain | ||
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teh_longinator
Canada725 Posts
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
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blackbrrd
Norway477 Posts
I didn't pay for the first season, but have payed for the last three and I think it is well worth it. Currently I believe you are allowed to watch the first set of a every match. That is a LOT of free content and should be enough for newcomers to get a taste. If you like it it costs about half of what a cinema ticket costs you and you get roughly 100 hours of quality games. The current price of about 10$ seems good to me. GSL2 that cost 20$ was a bit steep in my eyes, but the current price is low enough for me not considering if I want it or not. | ||
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anatem
Romania1369 Posts
every season you find a few guys recording the matches live on stream sites, and that lasts until gom eventually track them down, but frankly, that amount of content, for that amount of money, if you're an esport fan, unquestionably worth it. (at least atm, the way they started with their service was full of fail and basically a ripoff, but starting s.3 it's become good.) | ||
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Ryan375
20 Posts
The question is: Just how harmful is it to the overall SC2 community to make people pay 10 bucks. Just how much smaller is the GSL because of it? | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On January 31 2011 07:02 JoeSchmoe wrote: my question is simple. how do they make money? gomtv is not a charity. How does MLG make money? MLG isn't a charity. How does the IEM make money? IEM isn't a charity. How does TL make money? TL isn't a charity. | ||
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Spacemanspiff
United States116 Posts
Besides there are other tournament streams, live and with VODs, that people don't have to pay for. GSL has to offer something considerably better than other tournaments to be worth it. GSL can have higher level players and so on, but is the entertainment value over other streams worth money to new people? Advertising is how sponsors get their money, and more viewers makes ad space on GSL worth more. TL;DR Paid VODs cut into new/casual viewers even if the paid stream is worth it for current fans. | ||
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Virid
United States130 Posts
Newcomers in Korea have access to a large amount of LIVE content. Korea isn't exactly a massive country, and surely an interested Korean could make the trip every once in a while. What about foreigners then? For me, I wasn't aware about GSL until after I had gotten into SC2 by watching AMERICAN tournaments, then gradually branching into Day9, and then into TL. As an American newcomer, I'm pre-disposed to care about American players. I only watch GSL for the foreigners, and I only watch European tournaments because they're casted in English for free by names I know with games between people I know. I'm beginning to branch off into caring about all non-Korean players, but I first and foremost care about MY guys winning. GSL is the highest example of skill, for sure, no one denies that all the best players participate in that tournament. However, I will watch the MLG stream all day, but I'm definitely not going to stay awake for GSL. I cheer for America in the Olympics and in any other sport. Why should you guys expect it to be different for SC2? | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
edit: apparently the VOD service has gotten a lot better, I might pay for the March season then if they introduce some more macro maps. edit 2: stop saying how great a deal it is, Netflix and Hulu are cheaper and have more content. Don't compare it to renting a movie or buying pizza, that's apples and oranges. It's like a Netflix or Hulu but for SC2. | ||
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
On January 31 2011 07:11 Virid wrote: You guys are really half-doing the argument for newcomers here. Newcomers in Korea have access to a large amount of LIVE content. Korea isn't exactly a massive country, and surely an interested Korean could make the trip every once in a while. What about foreigners then? For me, I wasn't aware about GSL until after I had gotten into SC2 by watching AMERICAN tournaments, then gradually branching into Day9, and then into TL. As an American newcomer, I'm pre-disposed to care about American players. I only watch GSL for the foreigners, and I only watch European tournaments because they're casted in English for free by names I know with games between people I know. I'm beginning to branch off into caring about all non-Korean players, but I first and foremost care about MY guys winning. GSL is the highest example of skill, for sure, no one denies that all the best players participate in that tournament. However, I will watch the MLG stream all day, but I'm definitely not going to stay awake for GSL. I cheer for America in the Olympics and in any other sport. Why should you guys expect it to be different for SC2? Your attitude is probably very common but man... I'll just never understand you, I think. At the very least you should cheer for the best of your race. I'm a Protoss. I love MC and will watch everything and anything he does. Not just because he's good, but because it's for Aiur~ | ||
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Ryalnos
United States1946 Posts
Of course free everything would entice more viewers, but GOM is already taking a bit of a risk with SC2 and the GSL. Instead of taking a bigger risk and accepting a loss on foreign streaming, they're trying to make a profit (I don't know how they're doing on the foreign stream front, but expenses add up quickly when they pay for English casters etc.). I know this is hard to accept in the easy-piracy age, but sometimes things cost money because someone needs to make a living. | ||
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Jacuzzi
United States528 Posts
IMO the amount of content you get for $10 is amazing, and we can all tell that the production gets better every season so we know that money's going to improving the overall quality. | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
On January 31 2011 06:28 Ryan375 wrote: Also: We're talking about GOM VODs, not SQ Live. SQ Live happens around 4-5am (not many newcomers would stay up that late). Imagine if you could use TL.net only between 3am-5am lol. I love how your world has one timezone. To the general discussion: I think paying for the service makes everything even more professional. Living proof are we ourselves: If nobody would pay it, they couldnt do it this way. If you want to make e-sports really big though, you have to get more money into the circle than just sponsors and this is one way to do so | ||
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zeross
France310 Posts
GSL have higher level player, higher price pool, higher quality in general, higher organisation quality, higher casting quality, higher entertainment quality.... you can live with the ads, but you can't get top quality with only the ads. every newcomer in the sc2 pro scene can still watch the sq live, and the first match of every single set (and in HQ i think ?), that mean a LOT of matches. i one person still don't know if he like watching GSL after all those free to view matches we can't do anything for him | ||
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Highways
Australia6103 Posts
I mean HD and Husky gets like ~150k views on their videos. Imagine if GOMTV had a youtube channel that they upload GSL videos into. They will get like 500k average views per video. That would generate so much hype and popularity for SC2. As it is right now SC2 progaming is very very niche, when it has the potential to get into mainstream gaming. + Show Spoiler + Another issue that GOM fucked up hard is even if you pay a subscription the live streams are impossible to watch from Australia. Have to always resort to UStream. | ||
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Ulfsark
United States958 Posts
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resilve
United Kingdom678 Posts
On January 31 2011 07:05 teh_longinator wrote: I paid 10$ to watch over 50 hours of gsl coverage this month. A movie rental costs 5$ for an hour and a half of a shitty movie. Any mathematicians out there who can do this for me? This exactly. I am happy to pay a small amount of money for high quality content - In all aspects of life - I dont see how for some reason starcraft will be any different. | ||
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
The Youtube channel is an amazing idea. Release badass series like Clide v Leenock as part of a GSL GREATEST HITS channel on youtube. | ||
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cyclone25
Romania3344 Posts
On January 31 2011 06:48 Moonling wrote: VODs are so worth it TBH Yes, I'm happy I paid for this month and it wasn't expensive at all. I felt like I'm supporting eSports by doing so too. I wasn't able to watch much of it live, and having the HD vods uploaded so fast is just great. As long as Artosis will be part of GomTV, I'll pay for every season : ) | ||
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