EPTI will however continue to stay up till 3 am to watch the beesuit
Paying to watch GSL matches... Is it a good idea? - Page 2
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stork4ever
United States1036 Posts
I will however continue to stay up till 3 am to watch the beesuit | ||
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aike
United States1629 Posts
On January 31 2011 06:35 Ryan375 wrote: You can only watch Game 1. If you mean the Live Matches then its not useful because the average newcomer won't be staying up at 3-5am to watch starcraft 2. Why is everybody ignoring the fact that he said "I THINK PEOPLE CAN STILL WATCH SQ LIVE FOR FREE" ... Standard Quality LIVE(This is the keyword) he said nothing about VODs... | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On January 31 2011 06:30 mprs wrote: I think people can still watch SQ live for free, which isn't too bad... Hell, it's functional more than the HQ stream ever is. Still, yeah you probably should if you're interested in SC2 pro games. I don't quite like what Gom's doing but eh, it's not my call, I get enough content for my money. Can't say the GSL can compare to the MLG free stream for example though which is far more entertaining to me personally. I can't see anyone who's simply a "casual", so to speak, would even consider paying for it. They would probably just google their way to some pirated VODs, of which there are plenty. Comparing the GSL to foreign tournaments makes the price seem less worth it. There's always some tournament online and I know that I personally have enjoyed some MLG days more than several GSL days, and that was for no cost whatsoever. I suppose some of my sanity did take a punch after hearing "STICK A FORK IN THOSE BUNS" every time I blinked but.. yeah. I guess Gom gets more profit with the subscription model than they would otherwise, else they're simply terrible at business. But the fact that they're alienating such a large crowd irks me, a lot of people under eighteen who won't be able to convince their parents to pay for shit online (I had that problem back in the day) will likely watch pirated content, for one. | ||
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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Ryan375
20 Posts
On January 31 2011 06:37 aike wrote: Why is everybody ignoring the fact that he said "I THINK PEOPLE CAN STILL WATCH SQ LIVE FOR FREE" ... Standard Quality LIVE(This is the keyword) he said nothing about VODs... because LIVE matches are useless. We're talking about newcomers. Live matches start around 2am to 6am. Not very attractive. | ||
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SolidusR
United States217 Posts
I suppose it's simply a matter of which garners a higher profit. They can close off the scene to the hardcore people who will pay money to watch pro starcraft and make good cash off those people, or they can understand that nobody and I mean NOBODY is going to pay to watch starcraft if they are trying it out for the first time and that this is only going to curtail their popularity. It's a very short term marketing strategy, IMO, and I refuse to support it on principle. | ||
Pholon
Netherlands6142 Posts
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gm.tOSS
Germany898 Posts
On January 31 2011 06:37 kOre wrote: You can still watch SQ live for free. I've done it for the past 4 seasons so far. Works if you can be at home at those hours. Not so much when you can't. | ||
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kOre
Canada3642 Posts
On January 31 2011 06:40 gm.tOSS wrote: Works if you can be at home at those hours. Not so much when you can't. Games are usually on at 2:00 AM + for me so yeah I guess it works for those in N.A. without graveyard shifts. | ||
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walklightwhat
Australia752 Posts
Makes sense and is fine to me. | ||
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
I've considered buying the pass for the past few seasons, but I've yet to hear of a season without alot of issues with the stream. Once they make it perfect it'll definitely be worth it. | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
But I think for SC2 it's ill suited, as it becomes more apparent that the SC2 community is if anything bigger outside Korea than inside. I think they are slowly beginning to realize that with things like the foreigner house. They probably make a decent chunk of change from foreigners that helps with financing the foreigner house etc. They could definitely be doing more to attract foreign viewers, but with all the reports and rumors of SC2 not living up to expectations in Korea, it's likely they have more important things to worry about. There's probably a million things they could do to capitalize on foreign SC2, but logistically it might not be worthwhile to attempt them from Korea. | ||
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radiumz0rz
United States253 Posts
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On January 31 2011 06:42 walklightwhat wrote: Live is free and VODs aren't. Makes sense and is fine to me. Live generally starts at 10-12am in Europen, and as it is mostly on weekdays most won't be able to see any Gom without paying for it, I think the times for Live are pretty shit in the U.S as well sometimes. "Live is free" makes sense in Korea, but outside of it that generally doesn't mean whole lot. | ||
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KahunaNui
Spain257 Posts
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Omnipresent
United States871 Posts
On January 31 2011 06:34 heyoka wrote: Not VODs. I think its an awful policy that shows very little understanding of how to grow a sport. Historically things like baseball became much bigger when they began to give out content for free (like when baseball was first put on the radio). If I was new to the scene and ran across the GSL website, I would be out of there immediately as soon as I saw you need to pay. It would turn me to something else and make me forget about SC2 instantly. At the moment, I think they need subscriptions to even keep the stream running. Stream issues this season (though better than in the past), show that they can't support the viewership they currently have. They need more money, not less. There is very little advertising on the English stream at the moment (just Tastossis plugging Pepsi and Sony once or twice a cast). They already reduced the stream price, and told us to expect adds. Once they get some decent advertising, I'd imagine we'll eventually get free VODs (HQ stream might always be paid). It's unfortunate that you have to pay at the moment, but we'll have to see about the future. For now, the standard quality stream and free access to the first game of each match isn't too bad. In the long run, something will probably have to change. Though unethical, it's also not too hard to find a free (unlicensed) VOD if you really want to see a particular set/match. | ||
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silentsod
United States198 Posts
I've used the HQ stream 3-4 times because I'm usually asleep so I can not be exhausted at school the next morning. ETA: Stream issues seem to be location based with NA doing well and EU having a much worse time of it. | ||
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Coramoor
Canada455 Posts
On January 31 2011 06:34 heyoka wrote: Not VODs. I think its an awful policy that shows very little understanding of how to grow a sport. Historically things like baseball became much bigger when they began to give out content for free (like when baseball was first put on the radio). If I was new to the scene and ran across the GSL website, I would be out of there immediately as soon as I saw you need to pay. It would turn me to something else and make me forget about SC2 instantly. but in truth your wrong, it was free to listen live(just like it's free to watch GSL live), but there was no such thing as vods... and you get game 1 of every vod free to try and entice you, i'm sorry but i'd rather pay 10 bucks a month then get crap streaming that doesn't work at all, i know it';s still bad in some parts of europe but for the most part it has improved immensely and as such it's worth it, i have no idea how you think it's viable for them to run it for free including vods, when finding advertisers who want to do worldwide only advertising is pretty damn hard, over time they could figure out how to incorporate ip specific advertising but for the time being it's fine, and frankly anyone that complains about it to a serious degree has no business sense | ||
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