FOMOS: BW will live if SC2 dies? - Page 15

On February 18 2011 10:11 CPTHammer.464 wrote:
If Koreans want BW to win out it needs to be updated with SC2 style graphics IMO...you then have a balanced game with 21st century graphics/gameplay.

On February 18 2011 10:59 Gudeldar wrote:
I'm getting really sick and tired of seeing this shit. For one its pure speculation that SC2 is going to die in Korea, GSL is still happening and GOM has never said anything about reducing the number of tournaments or lowering the prize pool or anything like that. Don't BW openings/finals have concerts that bring a ton of people to them?

Second, Korea isn't the center of the universe and even if GSL ends that won't affect anything going on anywhere else. MLG, ESL, etc aren't all just going to end because Korea isn't paying attention to SC2.

On January 10 2011 01:26 alexanderzero wrote:
I want to see some actual evidence for the claim that SC2 is a failure in Korea. If we're going to draw conclusions about the success of the entire event due to there being 500 people at the opening ceremony, then consider that in the early days of the GSL there might have been just a few people at Mok-Dong studio watching the non-finals matches live. Now there are always at least 20 or 30 people, even for the Code A matches. If I had to guess the real truth, it would be that the popularity has been gaining.

Anyways, this kind of speculation is really quite worthless. Unless we get financial numbers then we're not going to know anything about the success of the GSL and of Starcraft 2 in Korea.

On October 16 2019 21:52 BisuDagger wrote:
It's really interesting to read this article today and compare it to the state of SC2 today. I feel like if there was no date on when this was published someone could assume this was written this week and not know the difference (barring the mention of Kespa). Also, noting the disclaimer at the top, it still stands true today that SC2 has done impressively well in maintaining popularity outside of South Korea. After 8 years some of the struggles in South Korea remain the same such as fostering a new and younger player base and also fighting against the mandatory service clock. However, I think those that have watched SC2 over the past LOTV years have become a stronger and more loyal fan base as scene by great turnouts to GSL events.

Edit: I also don't believe the state of BW now has any impact on the state of SC2 which makes me very happy. The water has very much settled on that discussion and everyone has resolved to enjoy whatever they want to enjoy without getting angry at others with different tastes.

On October 16 2019 22:33 Wombat_NI wrote:

I thought it was much more recent when I first skimmed it to be honest, although sickened by the TL conspiracy allowing their writers to necro as they please!

It is nice that the two scenes are a bit less annoyingly antagonistic and things have settled down where one can like both, or either game singularly and have their thing and enjoy it. Of course something is defective in you if you like neither game

On October 16 2019 22:28 zenist wrote:


If it didn't manage to capture BW audience, then it is bad.

On October 17 2019 05:02 RenSC2 wrote:

You replied to a post from 8 years ago and then used terrible logic in your response. By that same logic, as people have left the SC2 scene, they should have gone to BW if it wasn’t bad. Very few people went from SC2 to BW unless they were big BW fans/players in the first place. Therefore, BW must be bad.

Or, maybe the two games are different enough that they can appeal to different audiences. Worldwide, SC2 has been far more popular than BW ever was. It is only in Korea where BW was huge and always overshadowed SC2. But honestly, the popularity of LoL in Korea stomped SC2 while suppressing the BW revival, rather than one destroying the other. I guess LoL is just the better game.

On October 17 2019 13:19 Waxangel wrote:
I do feel like the way it played out is that whatever effect SC2 and BW may have had on each other in terms of playerbase (positive or negative), all that was ultimately insignificant compared to how they were affected by other games in the market. With or without SC2, BW was on a slow decline in Korea since the the 2000's. In SC2's case, not having the shadow of BW at launch may have helped slightly at launch, but ultimately it was bound to get surpassed by other games.

TL;DR: If either SC2 or BW are "dying," it has very little to do with one another.