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Morphs
Netherlands645 Posts
In beta I started in copper (up to silver) and in retail I started in silver and worked my way up to plat where I've been for a while now. IMO playing Zerg definitely makes this climb harder, and only recently did I get the feeling that my mechanics are getting smooth... Just play for the improvement. Watch your replays and try to focus on one thing at a time for a while so you improve on that. | ||
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WallieP
Netherlands425 Posts
On January 05 2011 19:32 Morphs wrote: This thread is pretty skewed in itself since teamliquid tends to attract gamers who are a bit more serious about playing sc2 than average. Hence all those "I play casually and got into diamond after 50 games" ... . This really was what i wanted to type but couldnt find the right words... a average gamer wouldnt end up on this website, watch tactics on a daily base or analyse replays after every lose, when you do stuff like that you allready are not a natural but a person who got it by playing and researching a lot, and finding the right tactics. With the right build order and research close to everyone can reach diamond imo | ||
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Jago
Finland390 Posts
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DragonDefonce
United States790 Posts
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fabioisonfire
United States81 Posts
Sure, APM can be a God-given talent, but I do believe it's mostly work ethic and a willingness to learn from each loss. | ||
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Hane
France210 Posts
To improve you have to learn from your loses and play more. Started from copper league, and now after 3k games i'm mid+ diam. | ||
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Jago
Finland390 Posts
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Carkis
Canada302 Posts
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decaf
Austria1797 Posts
I've been reading lately about people who claim to have gotten into Diamond within their first 50-80 games without previous RTS experience I did that in 30 games. I am generally very good if it comes to playing video games, don't know why, because I don't play very much. Maybe because I played the guitar and the piano ? | ||
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Retgery
Canada1229 Posts
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SiN]
United States540 Posts
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Meldrath
United States620 Posts
On January 04 2011 17:32 piskooooo wrote: They probably got Diamond from winning 4-5 of their placement matches. They probably just 4gate, cannon rush, 6pool, 12drone, 2 rax, etc. They probably got it when the game was new. They probably lied. They can only get to platinum from placement games. Your wrong. What ever strat they used is valid cheese is valid cheese is cheese becuase it works. When they got the game does not matter. There was a lengthy beta and people had sc1 to compare and learn from. People can and do lie. But saying your in diamond when you are not is kinda silly being in diamond doesnt make you a god among men.. being 3k+ or in meatyowllegs standards being 4k does. In summary your not as clever as you think you are. | ||
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Mintastic
United States166 Posts
Also don't let the population of this forum fool you, most of the players in the world are in silver or below so it's perfectly normal. Remember to have fun too. | ||
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DIRESTRAIT
Canada155 Posts
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SlyinZ
France199 Posts
profile : Joined TL.net Monday, 26th of May 2008, you failed hard sir In topic, i think that a monkey can play mozart if you give him time. Anyone can be succesfull at anything, the only limited factor is the willpower. | ||
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Precision
United States67 Posts
On January 06 2011 04:37 DIRESTRAIT wrote: I agree that natural talent does have to do with it. I'll use guitar as an example. Sure if everyone practices day and night they'll become amazing at guitar, but some people just pick it up and have a feel for it that others don't, these are the people that get creative with the instruments and set the bar for everyone else (Drewbie drops, Maynard transfers), natural talent is not everything although it's not to be overlooked Took the words right out of my mouth. Some people just musically talented, some people are just naturally good at sports, and some people can also be naturally talented at playing video games (whether it's an RTS or not). But as to whether if it's either skill or practice, I'd have to say it's more practice than skill. But mostly a combination of both. | ||
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zJayy962
1363 Posts
On January 04 2011 17:35 TyrantPotato wrote: some people tend to have a natural "knack" for rts games. for example im one of the lucky sons of a bitchs where everything just comes to me naturally. but i rarely get a chance to practice so i cant reap any benefits from it. then there are people who may not have that spark. but will dedicate themselves to hard practice and will reach the top through sheer determination. personally i feel that those who commit them selves deserve more then those who are just "good" at stuff. but the top top top people "jeadong/flash gosu level" they seem to be born from the ashes of thousand year old phoenixes with the burning pashion of a million suns and practice their skills inside volcanoes whilst tieing 1000kgs of wieght to their arms 12 hours a day Im from the US and you just used kgs as a measurement. It made me giggle. | ||
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Leviwtf
174 Posts
On January 06 2011 04:37 DIRESTRAIT wrote: I agree that natural talent does have to do with it. I'll use guitar as an example. Sure if everyone practices day and night they'll become amazing at guitar, but some people just pick it up and have a feel for it that others don't, these are the people that get creative with the instruments and set the bar for everyone else (Drewbie drops, Maynard transfers), natural talent is not everything although it's not to be overlooked Personal anecdotes aren't very convincing to me. | ||
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Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
I'll take me, for example, with two different things. Video games. I've played them all my life, especially FPS, and just "get" them. I do well in every single game I've played longer than a month or so. In SC2, I placed in plat with zero RTS experience except for Rome: Total War, and probably would be in diamond if I actually played it more, I find it funner to watch. :-( But I just didn't have any trouble picking it up, and "getting" some of the more advanced concepts. But then we move to music. I blow at music. But i love it, and so I've practiced many, many hours on my music. So now, i can play about 5 different instruments with some degree of proficiency, piano and cello the best. I still am not "talented", and never will be. But I wanted to be good, so i took lessons, and practiced my butt off until I was. It's a lot less fun that just playing video games and being good, but in the end, I'm reaching the goal I set. If I was talented, and had put all the time into music that I have, I would probably be really amazing. I'm not though, I'm just solid. | ||
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Neo.NEt
United States785 Posts
On January 06 2011 04:37 DIRESTRAIT wrote: I agree that natural talent does have to do with it. I'll use guitar as an example. Sure if everyone practices day and night they'll become amazing at guitar, but some people just pick it up and have a feel for it that others don't, these are the people that get creative with the instruments and set the bar for everyone else (Drewbie drops, Maynard transfers), natural talent is not everything although it's not to be overlooked I agree with the natural talent thing, but I'm not sure you can compare it to music. Some people are naturally better at SC than others, but nobody will ever be at a level of Beethoven or Mozart or some child prodigy. I'm sure the Starcraft 1 people are going to be screaming about how flash or whoever was like 13 when he won some big SC1 thing but that's nowhere near the level of an actual child prodigy where someone is writing world class symphonies at like age 3... | ||
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