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theriv
Profile Joined August 2010
United States149 Posts
January 03 2011 04:16 GMT
#41
i really like that pros actually comment on threads like this. Makes me feel good inside . Dedication baby. dedication.
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
January 03 2011 04:16 GMT
#42
On January 03 2011 13:05 FindingPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2011 12:48 Lennon wrote:
Here's how I plan to go pro:
1) Spam ladder for 3 hours a day until I reach 3000 points.
2) Search for a semi-pro team.
3) Play for the team in team leagues. Get noticed.
4) Play solo tournaments when I feel I can reach the quarter finals. Get more noticed.
5) At this point I should be comfortably in the semi-pro category.

I'm still on step 1 but this is my plan. Going fully pro? It's not going to happen since I want to continue my education.

You should be playing in as many tourneys as possible


That's what I originally thought but tournaments like Zotac or Go4SC2 take up way too much time: sometimes even 1 game per hour. If you're going to get knocked out in the 1st, 2nd or 3rd round, you won't get noticed and it's a waste of time. Although, I do understand your mentality of playing in as many as possible to get tournament experience but that way is just not for me.
Almin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States583 Posts
January 03 2011 04:18 GMT
#43
On January 03 2011 13:14 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2011 13:02 gamerkhang wrote:
On January 03 2011 12:52 BetterFasterStronger wrote:
dedicate 6-10 hours a day. The most important thing is to is not go and just grind for 10 hours on the ladder, thats not how you get good. Nony is my prime example. He will practice builds against computers.

On the ladder, play to get better. Not to win. I practiced QXC's drop play for about 60 straight games, didn't matter the race or the positions. IdrA does this too, he will practice a build till hes got it down and then move on to something else.

I personally like making a trial account and practicing micro mechanics. Taking the edge off losing a ladder game really helps me improve.

Also if you are serious. Buy some coaching. I've bought 2 lessons from incontroL just to study the replays and see the difference in skill and what it is.

Well the problem with that is I don't have $60 to make a scapegoat account and if I practice on ladder, I might go down a long ways- taking me further away from my dream rather than closer.
I'm not really sure if computers are good or not, but obviously I can't beat insane yet because it has resource hacks. >:[ I'm not joking.
Which leads me back to my point, CAN SOMEONE PRACTICE WITH ME? 2300 PROTOSS LOOKING FOR PvT/PvZ practice.
The practice partner thread here is just a long list of names that doesn't actually get any attention from what I see, as is the same for many large sites. :/

being high on the ladder doesnt get you any closer to your goal
avoiding practice to protect your rating is absurd. if you want to be good go play 40 games a day and stop thinking about becoming a pro.

Idra, what convinced you to turn pro at Starcraft in general? Is it the money? Fame? Women?

When you look back 10 years down the line, what would you think of, do you play because StarCraft is fun, or is it just a job? Or is it fun with benefits?
Kpyolysis32
Profile Joined April 2010
553 Posts
January 03 2011 04:20 GMT
#44
I am also a high school student and a fairly strong starcraft player (Just now joining a sponsored team! Yay!), and I am considering taking a gap year after high school to play starcraft (which ends for me in 2012). I want to know, though, how difficult is it to live in Korea, and how much would you say it costs minimum per month (assuming I have no desires for complicated stuff, just need food, internet, and a place to live). For anyone who is currently living there, could you answer these?
Man, do I not keep this up to date, or what?
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
January 03 2011 04:22 GMT
#45
you also don't really just "become" a progamer overnight.

Takes lots of practice/doing well in tournaments. If you love the game enough and play and practice alot you can improve to a point where you can get good results in major tournaments. But it takes tons of time/practice for most, and commitment.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
January 03 2011 04:23 GMT
#46
On January 03 2011 11:43 gamerkhang wrote:
It's not like you can just play forever and become pro eventually- people don't have time for that, they have jobs and stuff to do.

thats exactly what you do


haha yea

I do wish e-Sports was as popular here as it was in Korea. Perhaps even better, I wish people would come to realize that basketball, football, etc., are ALSO GAMES.

Imagine a world where there there high school starcraft teams. It would be so much more accessible to "get started" and try to go pro (like many athletes want and try to do).
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
doffe
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden636 Posts
January 03 2011 04:25 GMT
#47
It has most likely been mentioned before but I have not read through all the posts entirely so here it goes anyhow.

You know that being a pro-gamer in itself has nothing to do with how good you are? Ofcourse its just natural that the best players are those that become pro's but in theory a bronzeplayer can be considered a pro if he just makes an considerable income of the game. So calling yourself a local pro in CS or w/e people do is simply wrong unless you are actually having some sponsorship or another kind of contract giving you an income through the game.

Semantics I know but nevertheless, lets get things straight. Not even everyone in GLS could in all honesty be considered pro's. Maybe S-class now but I doubt that everyone in 1-2-3 had a sponsored team to rely on.
gamerkhang
Profile Joined July 2010
United States152 Posts
January 03 2011 04:25 GMT
#48
On January 03 2011 13:16 theriv wrote:
i really like that pros actually comment on threads like this. Makes me feel good inside . Dedication baby. dedication.

Yes it does. :D

@ IdrA (you probably really are IdrA... right?)
I didn't actually expect to get answers from pros, at this point, I guess I'm just looking for PvT/PvZ practice partners or practice partners in general, and a team that's free to join.

Thanks for the motivation guys!
You don't need a counter-strategy, just a completely whoopass one.
hellokitty[hk]
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1309 Posts
January 03 2011 04:27 GMT
#49
It's mind over matter.

No it's real sports are popular and the players earn big bucks.
Grats to Nony for winning tons in TSL2, but he's not on contract to play video games.
People are imbeciles, lucky thing god made cats.
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
January 03 2011 04:29 GMT
#50
On January 03 2011 13:18 Almin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2011 13:14 IdrA wrote:
On January 03 2011 13:02 gamerkhang wrote:
On January 03 2011 12:52 BetterFasterStronger wrote:
dedicate 6-10 hours a day. The most important thing is to is not go and just grind for 10 hours on the ladder, thats not how you get good. Nony is my prime example. He will practice builds against computers.

On the ladder, play to get better. Not to win. I practiced QXC's drop play for about 60 straight games, didn't matter the race or the positions. IdrA does this too, he will practice a build till hes got it down and then move on to something else.

I personally like making a trial account and practicing micro mechanics. Taking the edge off losing a ladder game really helps me improve.

Also if you are serious. Buy some coaching. I've bought 2 lessons from incontroL just to study the replays and see the difference in skill and what it is.

Well the problem with that is I don't have $60 to make a scapegoat account and if I practice on ladder, I might go down a long ways- taking me further away from my dream rather than closer.
I'm not really sure if computers are good or not, but obviously I can't beat insane yet because it has resource hacks. >:[ I'm not joking.
Which leads me back to my point, CAN SOMEONE PRACTICE WITH ME? 2300 PROTOSS LOOKING FOR PvT/PvZ practice.
The practice partner thread here is just a long list of names that doesn't actually get any attention from what I see, as is the same for many large sites. :/

being high on the ladder doesnt get you any closer to your goal
avoiding practice to protect your rating is absurd. if you want to be good go play 40 games a day and stop thinking about becoming a pro.

Idra, what convinced you to turn pro at Starcraft in general? Is it the money? Fame? Women?

When you look back 10 years down the line, what would you think of, do you play because StarCraft is fun, or is it just a job? Or is it fun with benefits?

Why do people get a job?
To earn money.
Why do people play games?
To have fun.

If you can make a living from playing games (which is an extremely rare oppotunity), I'd say it's a reasonable choice.
화이팅
ktimekiller
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States690 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 04:30:58
January 03 2011 04:29 GMT
#51
[QUOTE]On January 03 2011 13:27 hellokitty[hk] wrote:[quote]No it's real sports are popular and the players earn big bucks.
Grats to Nony for winning tons in TSL2, but he's not on contract to play video games.[/quote]

As a part of TL, he pretty much is as far as pro gamers go
gamerkhang
Profile Joined July 2010
United States152 Posts
January 03 2011 04:29 GMT
#52
On January 03 2011 13:27 hellokitty[hk] wrote:
Show nested quote +
It's mind over matter.

No it's real sports are popular and the players earn big bucks.
Grats to Nony for winning tons in TSL2, but he's not on contract to play video games.

Mind over matter as in you have to use your head instead of getting crazy muscles.
You don't need a counter-strategy, just a completely whoopass one.
theriv
Profile Joined August 2010
United States149 Posts
January 03 2011 04:32 GMT
#53
mind over matter to me is, just to fucking do it. Dont say your going to do it. just fucking do it.
SpeaKEaSY
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1070 Posts
January 03 2011 04:32 GMT
#54
[image loading]

Finally an opportunity to use this.

I suppose if you're really serious, the way to go is practice hard, compete in local tournaments and work your way up.
Aim for perfection, settle for mediocrity - KawaiiRice 2014
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
January 03 2011 04:37 GMT
#55
[QUOTE]On January 03 2011 13:29 ktimekiller wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 03 2011 13:27 hellokitty[hk] wrote:[quote]No it's real sports are popular and the players earn big bucks.
Grats to Nony for winning tons in TSL2, but he's not on contract to play video games.[/quote]

As a part of TL, he pretty much is as far as pro gamers go[/QUOTE]
uhhhhh... aren't the Liquid members under a contract?

@any of the liquid members: if I'm wrong please correct me, as iirc I saw on the news that when HuK joined, it had a picture of him signing contracts.........
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
ribboo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1842 Posts
January 03 2011 04:43 GMT
#56
On January 03 2011 13:02 gamerkhang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2011 12:52 BetterFasterStronger wrote:
dedicate 6-10 hours a day. The most important thing is to is not go and just grind for 10 hours on the ladder, thats not how you get good. Nony is my prime example. He will practice builds against computers.

On the ladder, play to get better. Not to win. I practiced QXC's drop play for about 60 straight games, didn't matter the race or the positions. IdrA does this too, he will practice a build till hes got it down and then move on to something else.

I personally like making a trial account and practicing micro mechanics. Taking the edge off losing a ladder game really helps me improve.

Also if you are serious. Buy some coaching. I've bought 2 lessons from incontroL just to study the replays and see the difference in skill and what it is.

Well the problem with that is I don't have $60 to make a scapegoat account and if I practice on ladder, I might go down a long ways- taking me further away from my dream rather than closer.
I'm not really sure if computers are good or not, but obviously I can't beat insane yet because it has resource hacks. >:[ I'm not joking.
Which leads me back to my point, CAN SOMEONE PRACTICE WITH ME? 2300 PROTOSS LOOKING FOR PvT/PvZ practice.
The practice partner thread here is just a long list of names that doesn't actually get any attention from what I see, as is the same for many large sites. :/

You won't get further away from your 'dream' by losing points. You're supposed to practice to get BETTER. If that happens by losing, so be it, you'll still get better and eventually get higher than where you were. Points don't mean shit.
DecoyOn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada45 Posts
January 03 2011 04:45 GMT
#57
Just search for it. There's a lot of questions like yours in previous threads. You don't have to go to S. Korea, but honestly it is recommended if you are going for top-knoch proness.

The only way I see it is you ladder like crazy to get into tournaments. Then win many tourneys and get noticed by teams. Then maybe if you win enough tourneys (or impress lots of ppl) you'll be picked up by them.
ace246
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia360 Posts
January 03 2011 04:50 GMT
#58
Would be nice if people who aren't progamers stopped advising what it takes to become a progamer, since they obviously don't know what they are talking about and I could learn a thing or two from this thread that's actually correct.
Coutcha
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada519 Posts
January 03 2011 04:54 GMT
#59
why does every single time i see progamer i read programmer please people of tl pro-gamer or pro gamer stop writing progamer xD
This is what the world is for Making ELECTRICITY :D
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
January 03 2011 04:56 GMT
#60
On January 03 2011 13:50 ace246 wrote:
Would be nice if people who aren't progamers stopped advising what it takes to become a progamer, since they obviously don't know what they are talking about and I could learn a thing or two from this thread that's actually correct.


You don't have to be somewhere to know how to get there.
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