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JustQuitWarcraftIII
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States679 Posts
January 13 2011 11:54 GMT
#241
Not hating on WC3 players but I haven't seen any of kind of supposedly amazing micro from them either. Moon should have better micro than Grubby and he hasn't shown any godlike control so far in SC2.
Veasel
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden159 Posts
January 13 2011 11:56 GMT
#242
On January 13 2011 20:54 JustQuitWarcraftIII wrote:
Not hating on WC3 players but I haven't seen any of kind of supposedly amazing micro from them either. Moon should have better micro than Grubby and he hasn't shown any godlike control so far in SC2.


Did u see checkprime vs Boxer in last GSL or something? Then watch it and delete your post.....
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JustQuitWarcraftIII
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States679 Posts
January 13 2011 11:58 GMT
#243
Yeah I did but it wasn't as amazing as MarineKing's micro even though by logic ex-WC3 players should be outmicro'ing all ex-BW players consistently.
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
January 13 2011 12:03 GMT
#244
On January 13 2011 20:40 Charlemagne wrote:
To be honest, I'm surprised the top sc1 players haven't stepped up to sc2, if for no other reason than to prove to themselves and/or others that their abilities are "universal." But again, perhaps the explanation is that the current top sc1 players thrive in games that are very well developed.

In any case, whether due to money, love of competition, or just pride, the incentives are there for anyone capable to compete in sc2 (excepting legal constraints).

Yeah, well, if you are a top sc1 player, why not stay in sc1 and keep dominating? Why switch to sc2 which is a different game? Honestly, if you have the kind of character to reach the top of BW mountain, then I doubt you're a type of person who follows money. Love of competition? They may love to compete in BW, but not sc2. (ex: I love to compete in chess, but I careless about golf) Plus, as of right now, I'm sure there is way more competition in top BW than sc2. Pride? If you are a top BW player, you've done something very few people can achieve and nobody can take that away. (ex: Usain Bolt is the best sprinter in the world, and I bet he careless about the fact that he's not the best marathon runner.) Once again, I use these examples, because sc2 is a different game from BW.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Lefnui
Profile Joined November 2008
United States753 Posts
January 13 2011 12:10 GMT
#245
On January 13 2011 20:58 JustQuitWarcraftIII wrote:
Yeah I did but it wasn't as amazing as MarineKing's micro even though by logic ex-WC3 players should be outmicro'ing all ex-BW players consistently.

No, that's not logical at all. Micro in WC3 was extremely different than in SC and you can't expect it to translate that well. The expectations placed upon WC3 players on this forum are absolutely ridiculous.
No one gives any credit to the fact that this is SC2 and not WC4. Of course if it was WC4 all you would hear on this forum is "BW players need more time to adjust, you can't judge them at all yet".
RotterdaM
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands684 Posts
January 13 2011 12:17 GMT
#246
Loving this topic , and did remind me a little bit of sk forums as well, those good old days :D
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Smackfools
Profile Joined October 2010
United States93 Posts
January 13 2011 14:35 GMT
#247
On January 13 2011 20:54 JustQuitWarcraftIII wrote:
Not hating on WC3 players but I haven't seen any of kind of supposedly amazing micro from them either. Moon should have better micro than Grubby and he hasn't shown any godlike control so far in SC2.



what are you expecting to see? 16 pronged attacks and never losing a unit?
MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
January 13 2011 14:38 GMT
#248
On January 13 2011 23:35 Smackfools wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 20:54 JustQuitWarcraftIII wrote:
Not hating on WC3 players but I haven't seen any of kind of supposedly amazing micro from them either. Moon should have better micro than Grubby and he hasn't shown any godlike control so far in SC2.



what are you expecting to see? 16 pronged attacks and never losing a unit?

He also plays the race that has the shortest range and the fewest high-hp units. I've seen some pretty good micro from WC3 players who play protoss.
I always try to shield slam face, just to make sure it doesnt work
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
January 13 2011 14:44 GMT
#249
On January 13 2011 23:38 MorefaSho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 23:35 Smackfools wrote:
On January 13 2011 20:54 JustQuitWarcraftIII wrote:
Not hating on WC3 players but I haven't seen any of kind of supposedly amazing micro from them either. Moon should have better micro than Grubby and he hasn't shown any godlike control so far in SC2.



what are you expecting to see? 16 pronged attacks and never losing a unit?

He also plays the race that has the shortest range and the fewest high-hp units. I've seen some pretty good micro from WC3 players who play protoss.


I've seen some good micro but nothing that made me actually say damn. That happened all the time in BW and the very few games of WC3 I watched.

And I think he will fail if he tries to do both things at once. Dedicate your time to one thing or you will start to suck at what you're good at and never get good at the other.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Juaks
Profile Joined June 2010
United States384 Posts
January 13 2011 15:48 GMT
#250
I hope he switch full time to SC2.
The hybrid status can only hurt his performance on both games, let´s be honest here...no one can be top player sharing playtime like that. These games require full time commitment if you really want to be pro.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 05:26:11
January 19 2011 05:25 GMT
#251
Is anyone else watching JP's channel at the moment?
+ Show Spoiler +
It was grubby vs some random zerg where Grubby was playing significantly bad.. ih ope it wasn't the real grubby
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Wunder
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2950 Posts
January 19 2011 05:26 GMT
#252
On January 19 2011 14:25 bkrow wrote:
Is anyone else watching JP's channel at the moment?


That was a hilarious game - we seriously need a confirmation on whether or not that was Grubby~
Writer@joonjoewong
FeeL_ThE_RusH
Profile Joined February 2010
Ireland227 Posts
January 19 2011 07:38 GMT
#253
I seriously doubt that that was the real Grubby.
#starcraft.ie on Quakenet, Irish SC2ers assemble
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
January 19 2011 22:49 GMT
#254
On January 19 2011 14:25 bkrow wrote:
Is anyone else watching JP's channel at the moment?
+ Show Spoiler +
It was grubby vs some random zerg where Grubby was playing significantly bad.. ih ope it wasn't the real grubby



I feel there's a bigger chance that I'm the real Fruitdealer than that being the real Grubby.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
January 19 2011 22:54 GMT
#255
On January 20 2011 07:49 TheBanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 14:25 bkrow wrote:
Is anyone else watching JP's channel at the moment?
+ Show Spoiler +
It was grubby vs some random zerg where Grubby was playing significantly bad.. ih ope it wasn't the real grubby



I feel there's a bigger chance that I'm the real Fruitdealer than that being the real Grubby.


I didn't even knew you spoke english
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
EunByuL
Profile Joined September 2010
Vietnam77 Posts
January 20 2011 12:06 GMT
#256
Hows grubby doing? Haven't read anything of him when the year started. I'm quite curious about what he's doing right now and if he's doing it well.
Did he enter some SC2 tourneys yet?
Tôi không
wiesel
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany727 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-20 12:26:54
January 20 2011 12:23 GMT
#257
On January 13 2011 20:40 Charlemagne wrote:
Perhaps the best thing about the GSL is that first prize is around 80k. Every 1-2 months, yes? This tells me, quite clearly, that Flash, Jaedong, etc. (assuming they're legally allowed to compete; they are, right?) themselves don't think they can make the switch to sc2 without a lot of difficulty.

No, it's because 80k isn't attractive enough for them. Flash made like 500k last year why would he switch
BeWat3r
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany182 Posts
January 20 2011 12:25 GMT
#258
I really hope the Grubbstar (haha) will get huge in Sc2. It was so much fun watching him in Wc3 and because he is a super friendly guy also.
If he focuses completly on sc2 he can and will have great succes because grubbys greatest skill is his tactical knowledge and his decisionmaking.
And hell yeah you need that in sc2
Writer and moderator for TaKeTV.net
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3463 Posts
January 20 2011 12:32 GMT
#259
Not to mention his strength to practice well, he would always win the first game in a series, just by having a greater strategy planned out.

To all the BW more apm than WC3, it's true it does require more apm.
But that doesn't stop some players.
Focus with average of 450 apm and going up to 630 apm in battles.
Happy would also always be over the 400 apm bar.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
wiesel
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany727 Posts
January 20 2011 12:33 GMT
#260
Well everyone can have 500 apm in wc3 or Bw, difference is what you gona do with it, if your just switching control groups etc
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