EPTTvP is more like poker. (DT, Void Ray, Colo, Fast Expo, 4 gate)
TvZ is a mixture of both. (Don't get flanked, know whether if enemy is Muta/Roach/Ling/Bling heavy)
From Terran perspective
Is Starcraft more like chess or poker? - Page 2
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Touch
Canada475 Posts
TvP is more like poker. (DT, Void Ray, Colo, Fast Expo, 4 gate) TvZ is a mixture of both. (Don't get flanked, know whether if enemy is Muta/Roach/Ling/Bling heavy) From Terran perspective | ||
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RoyalCheese
Czech Republic745 Posts
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Lazy_Peasant
United States13 Posts
There's way less luck in sc2 than poker, especially at a professional level. It doesn't matter how good you are, if you're all in AA still loses to KK 20% of the time. There's also more information in sc2. You can sacrifice your attention elsewhere briefly to scout your opponent. There's nothing quite as good as a scanner sweep in poker. I'd say taking macro out of the picture, it's like chess with a dash of uncertainty. | ||
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
On December 22 2010 18:56 RoyalCheese wrote: I don't understand how starcraft is like poker...there is no randomness in it. Stupid comparasion if you ask me. You must not have watched a lot of sc2 huh | ||
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CuirassEU
Germany24 Posts
Where is Poker ever like you go over look in his cards change your hand till you beat what he has ??? I never feeled like playing a card or bordgame while i played Starcraft and the thing is i hate board and Cardgames thats a mainreason to play videogames :/ | ||
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psycow
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freeto
United States122 Posts
On December 22 2010 18:49 roflcopter420 wrote: no its more of a coin zerg LOLOLOLOLOL ok this made me chuckle, especially with your name XD | ||
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roflcopter420
Sweden168 Posts
IMO the most important difference between chess and poker is that chess has no hidden information. So I think sc2 is more like poker. | ||
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alexanderzero
United States659 Posts
Obviously Poker emphasizes deception and mind games more than Chess, but it really lacks a lot of the other strategic elements like positioning and movement restrictions. I do suppose that in Poker you have to manage your money, while you don't have to do that in Chess. I still think Chess is closer to SC2 than Poker. Really though, I find the discussion to be rather pointless. SC2 is a lot more complicated than both Chess and Poker. I don't understand how starcraft is like poker...there is no randomness in it. Stupid comparasion if you ask me. Actually both the spawning positions and the direction that players initially choose to scout make very big differences in the way a game plays out. Starcraft is not devoid of coin tossing. | ||
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
Chess has a set of moves, opening, midgame, endgame, and a strong emphasis on space control and containment with huge factors of initiative and pacing that StarCraft has and poker does not have as much of. | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
In SC2 even a noob will win with mass voidrays against your mass-roaches, there's no way you can "outsmart" players with pure bluffs. If you wanna compare it with poker, it would be like a game where everyone had to show his cards at the end all the time and where it wouldn't be possible to force folds. | ||
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ejozl
Denmark3340 Posts
Lets meet in the middle and say it's like Stratego : P | ||
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ZeroChrome
Canada1001 Posts
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zDUST
Finland165 Posts
On December 22 2010 19:34 TheAmazombie wrote: Personally, I always think of StarCraft like real-time chess, but that was because I was quite the chess player in my youth and having studied it a lot, I see the subtle nuances quite a bit. It can be compared to poker as well, but poker, although a game of great skill, has a certain factor of luck that makes it more about the playing the player and less of the game itself. 7-2 offsuit can win a tourney, but like chess, it is very very hard at high level of play to really fool your opponent as greatly as that. You never really see top chess players trying to do a fool's mate or something like that. The bluff factor is high in poker, not very common in chess or StarCraft. Chess has a set of moves, opening, midgame, endgame, and a strong emphasis on space control and containment with huge factors of initiative and pacing that StarCraft has and poker does not have as much of. great argument imo. I wonder if the poker comparisons have a lot more to do with how poker has become established as a 'sport', and how much of the sc2 community would like to emulate that kind of structure. | ||
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Lemure
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Boxxer
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Malminos
United States321 Posts
Are bananas more like apples, pears, or peaches? | ||
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RaptureLights
50 Posts
It is a great combination of the two games imo. As for bluffing? You know they have a scout in your base, start a building; kill scout, cancel building, go different route? AKA Bluff. As for the luck factor? Well, that is something to be desired. You could get lucky your opponent forgets about the doom drop they had waiting. You could get lucky they missed a cycle. They could even forget to build that depo, pylon, ovie. There are chance factors of luck in the game as well. Building position? Unit composition, and unit placement. All relate to chess. Anyway; the game is in itself amazing. Just enjoy it, stop trying to compare it to everything else as it in itself stands alone as a pinicale of achievement. | ||
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Silidons
United States2813 Posts
On December 22 2010 20:27 Malminos wrote: I match your question with a question: Are bananas more like apples, pears, or peaches? definitely pears because of the skin useawhatididthar | ||
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koOma
Norway462 Posts
As for which is more similar, definitely poker. Both are strategic games which are real time and are of limited information, while chess is turn based and u have absolute information. | ||
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