Awesome/Confusing SC2 BM - Page 97

On October 26 2011 19:39 danson wrote:



22-25 per base is optimal, its not really worth the minerals/supply to make more workers than that unless you will be maynarding soon

On October 29 2011 05:57 zmansman17 wrote:


No you are all wrong.

24 is considered "saturated", or the maximum number of workers that can be used to mine on those mineral patches.

16 is considered "optimal", or the exact number of workers for which you gain the highest return on on minerals per worker.

Citation: mmr: high master gm

On October 29 2011 06:02 Blazinghand wrote:


Licorices is actually correct, since he says that you need 30 for full saturation with gas; 24 for saturation on minerals, 3 per gas. He is in agreement with you.

Danson could have worded his post better, but when he says "22-25 is optimal", he probably means "with gas", as with gas, for "optimal" you want 22 workers; 16 on minerals, and 3 on each geyser. The reason he says 22-25 instead of 22 is that he's a terran player, and sometimes his scvs won't be mining, but will be building stuff. He is in agreement with you.

On October 29 2011 05:46 Cataphract wrote:
At the start of the game he asked me what my name meant, and he was really chatty.

At the end of the game he said "well played, good control." and then this:



And I saw on the match history that on his next game he got 2 proxy gated and lost. :D

On October 12 2011 13:08 ectonym wrote:


heh heh. i had to share this, poor guy was raging at the wrong person, bless his heart

On September 06 2011 15:38 Blazinghand wrote:


Ah, yes, if my build doesn't meet some arbitrary standard of not being "some shit" then I should definitely withhold any amusing bm that results? No, I disagree. I think that, the fact of the matter is, most of the time people don't BM for no reason-- they BM because they're mad, because some build was strong or had a good timing or because they're just having a bad day or infestors op or whatever. People rarely BM for no reason-- but that doesn't make the BM justifiable, and all good hilarious BM has a home in this thread.






I've been stopped most of the time by roach+"something". that "something" is often hydralisk or speed banelings or on-creep banelings. Usually if the zerg player has 3 queens (enough to take down 2 banshees) a bunch of roaches, and a few banes to clear out repairing scvs, he can hold. Sometimes i'll see the same thing, but with a few hydralisks to take out the banshees, but then it's hard to have banelings to deal with the scvs and marines. Really i think just having queens for AA and roach/ling/bane for ground forces will hold it. Because it's easily scoutable as a 1-base allin, most zerg players have a bunch of roaches, but lack the AA and a lot of the time they're going mutalisk, which works pretty poorly against marine/thor/banshee. the real trick though is to have 3 queens so you don't lose to the banshees.

On October 29 2011 05:46 Cataphract wrote:
At the start of the game he asked me what my name meant, and he was really chatty.

At the end of the game he said "well played, good control." and then this:



And I saw on the match history that on his next game he got 2 proxy gated and lost. :D

On October 30 2011 10:05 Djeez wrote:
Anyway I tried that thor marine banshee allin a few times against various zergs and never lost. Banshees just deny the possible third/good for harass, and then when the haymaker comes, if zerg doesn't react perfectly it's game.

On October 31 2011 07:09 Ben... wrote:
Wait, so that's an actual build? I played against that like 4 times yesterday and only won once because the other guy was awful. I though it was just bad Terrans doing the "Make a bit of everything and they won't be able to counter all of it" build. It is so frustrating because it requires a completely different composition than any other build.

I've noticed a huge increase in BM and cheese since the ladder reset. It's really been ruining my fun with the game. A lot of the crappy randoms who type in all caps and try and throw you off while cheesing seem to be back. And thus, I've gone back to the usual 6pool every random and chuckle as their proxy gates are too far from their base and their 10 probes die.

Also, I had anti-BM, where a guy proxy gated me then apologized and explained that he had been on an 8 game losing streak. I said it was okay and gg'd him.