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On October 31 2011 07:09 Ben... wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 10:05 Djeez wrote:
Anyway I tried that thor marine banshee allin a few times against various zergs and never lost. Banshees just deny the possible third/good for harass, and then when the haymaker comes, if zerg doesn't react perfectly it's game.
Wait, so that's an actual build? I played against that like 4 times yesterday and only won once because the other guy was awful. I though it was just bad Terrans doing the "Make a bit of everything and they won't be able to counter all of it" build. It is so frustrating because it requires a completely different composition than any other build. I've noticed a huge increase in BM and cheese since the ladder reset. It's really been ruining my fun with the game. A lot of the crappy randoms who type in all caps and try and throw you off while cheesing seem to be back. And thus, I've gone back to the usual 6pool every random and chuckle as their proxy gates are too far from their base and their 10 probes die. Also, I had anti-BM, where a guy proxy gated me then apologized and explained that he had been on an 8 game losing streak. I said it was okay and gg'd him.
Yeah it's pretty strong. Like I said I tried it a bunch of times against various Zergs to see how they would defend it a while ago. Then I tried it some more yesterday. I don't play Terran but the only loss I had were vs Masters player zerg (i'm a diamond zerg).
Hydras are indeed the key units, but they're just so case specific that I've never seen anyone get 'em. The masters zerg that held it all did something that went along the line of 1)Getting additional queens for tank/healing/anti air 2) some Banes for marines and SCVs 3)pure roach ling for the rest. The point is to trick to zerg to tech to mutas by showing him you're getting more than just 1 banshee. Don't sneak out a 3rd, and don't tech to mutas basically.
(EDIT) Even against the master zergs, I would manage to snipe the natural base except once I believe. Thors and banshees just take it down VERY fast. Anyway my point is that a decent macro terran could even the game at that point and maybe win in a standard game later anyway?
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On October 31 2011 08:38 Djeez wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 07:09 Ben... wrote:On October 30 2011 10:05 Djeez wrote:
Anyway I tried that thor marine banshee allin a few times against various zergs and never lost. Banshees just deny the possible third/good for harass, and then when the haymaker comes, if zerg doesn't react perfectly it's game.
Wait, so that's an actual build? I played against that like 4 times yesterday and only won once because the other guy was awful. I though it was just bad Terrans doing the "Make a bit of everything and they won't be able to counter all of it" build. It is so frustrating because it requires a completely different composition than any other build. I've noticed a huge increase in BM and cheese since the ladder reset. It's really been ruining my fun with the game. A lot of the crappy randoms who type in all caps and try and throw you off while cheesing seem to be back. And thus, I've gone back to the usual 6pool every random and chuckle as their proxy gates are too far from their base and their 10 probes die. Also, I had anti-BM, where a guy proxy gated me then apologized and explained that he had been on an 8 game losing streak. I said it was okay and gg'd him. Yeah it's pretty strong. Like I said I tried it a bunch of times against various Zergs to see how they would defend it a while ago. Then I tried it some more yesterday. I don't play Terran but the only loss I had were vs Masters player zerg (i'm a diamond zerg). Hydras are indeed the key units, but they're just so case specific that I've never seen anyone get 'em. The masters zerg that held it all did something that went along the line of 1)Getting additional queens for tank/healing/anti air 2) some Banes for marines and SCVs 3)pure roach ling for the rest. The point is to trick to zerg to tech to mutas by showing him you're getting more than just 1 banshee. Don't sneak out a 3rd, and don't tech to mutas basically. (EDIT) Even against the master zergs, I would manage to snipe the natural base except once I believe. Thors and banshees just take it down VERY fast. Anyway my point is that a decent macro terran could even the game at that point and maybe win in a standard game later anyway?
If you don't kill them straight out you pretty much lose. It's incredibly hard to transition out of thor/ banshee.
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On October 31 2011 08:45 FabledIntegral wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 08:38 Djeez wrote:On October 31 2011 07:09 Ben... wrote:On October 30 2011 10:05 Djeez wrote:
Anyway I tried that thor marine banshee allin a few times against various zergs and never lost. Banshees just deny the possible third/good for harass, and then when the haymaker comes, if zerg doesn't react perfectly it's game.
Wait, so that's an actual build? I played against that like 4 times yesterday and only won once because the other guy was awful. I though it was just bad Terrans doing the "Make a bit of everything and they won't be able to counter all of it" build. It is so frustrating because it requires a completely different composition than any other build. I've noticed a huge increase in BM and cheese since the ladder reset. It's really been ruining my fun with the game. A lot of the crappy randoms who type in all caps and try and throw you off while cheesing seem to be back. And thus, I've gone back to the usual 6pool every random and chuckle as their proxy gates are too far from their base and their 10 probes die. Also, I had anti-BM, where a guy proxy gated me then apologized and explained that he had been on an 8 game losing streak. I said it was okay and gg'd him. Yeah it's pretty strong. Like I said I tried it a bunch of times against various Zergs to see how they would defend it a while ago. Then I tried it some more yesterday. I don't play Terran but the only loss I had were vs Masters player zerg (i'm a diamond zerg). Hydras are indeed the key units, but they're just so case specific that I've never seen anyone get 'em. The masters zerg that held it all did something that went along the line of 1)Getting additional queens for tank/healing/anti air 2) some Banes for marines and SCVs 3)pure roach ling for the rest. The point is to trick to zerg to tech to mutas by showing him you're getting more than just 1 banshee. Don't sneak out a 3rd, and don't tech to mutas basically. (EDIT) Even against the master zergs, I would manage to snipe the natural base except once I believe. Thors and banshees just take it down VERY fast. Anyway my point is that a decent macro terran could even the game at that point and maybe win in a standard game later anyway? If you don't kill them straight out you pretty much lose. It's incredibly hard to transition out of thor/ banshee.
I guess you're right. Scratch the standard game and do the allin a 2nd time then!
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I got accused of map hacking because I looked for his hidden expos after I destroyed his main. I guess he thinks scouting and scans are for hackers. Then he said his friend in GM can ban me. It's like kids saying "My dad can beat up your dad". Pretty awesome :S
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On October 31 2011 13:38 Klaxon wrote:I got accused of map hacking because I looked for his hidden expos after I destroyed his main. I guess he thinks scouting and scans are for hackers. Then he said his friend in GM can ban me. It's like kids saying "My dad can beat up your dad". Pretty awesome :S
Aaaaaaaw... How cute :D
I love this threat. Cause we all know GM players can ban people 
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On October 31 2011 13:46 Maekchu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 13:38 Klaxon wrote:I got accused of map hacking because I looked for his hidden expos after I destroyed his main. I guess he thinks scouting and scans are for hackers. Then he said his friend in GM can ban me. It's like kids saying "My dad can beat up your dad". Pretty awesome :S Aaaaaaaw... How cute :D I love this threat. Cause we all know GM players can ban people
It's probably likely that he was talking about a "Game Master" friend, not a grandmaster friend.
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On October 31 2011 13:47 dae wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 13:46 Maekchu wrote:On October 31 2011 13:38 Klaxon wrote:I got accused of map hacking because I looked for his hidden expos after I destroyed his main. I guess he thinks scouting and scans are for hackers. Then he said his friend in GM can ban me. It's like kids saying "My dad can beat up your dad". Pretty awesome :S Aaaaaaaw... How cute :D I love this threat. Cause we all know GM players can ban people It's probably likely that he was talking about a "Game Master" friend, not a grandmaster friend.
Ah ok that makes slightly more sense. I like how he told me he was kidding, then right away changed his mind again and said I wouldn't be able to login anymore. Oh well, better than being sweared at.
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On October 31 2011 13:47 dae wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 13:46 Maekchu wrote:On October 31 2011 13:38 Klaxon wrote:I got accused of map hacking because I looked for his hidden expos after I destroyed his main. I guess he thinks scouting and scans are for hackers. Then he said his friend in GM can ban me. It's like kids saying "My dad can beat up your dad". Pretty awesome :S Aaaaaaaw... How cute :D I love this threat. Cause we all know GM players can ban people It's probably likely that he was talking about a "Game Master" friend, not a grandmaster friend.
Aight, probably... But again... We all know that GM will just get people banned for friends :D I mean, my GM friend have banned many people... I also know Robert A. Kotick (CEO) and have asked him to sue several people because I have lost to them. We all know, stuff like this is not true.
And someone pulling that card always make me happy. :D
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On October 31 2011 13:38 Klaxon wrote:I got accused of map hacking because I looked for his hidden expos after I destroyed his main. I guess he thinks scouting and scans are for hackers. Then he said his friend in GM can ban me. It's like kids saying "My dad can beat up your dad". Pretty awesome :S
it's 2011 and people still pull the damn "My uncle works for nintendo card"
funny nonetheless lol
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On October 31 2011 13:38 Klaxon wrote:I got accused of map hacking because I looked for his hidden expos after I destroyed his main. I guess he thinks scouting and scans are for hackers. Then he said his friend in GM can ban me. It's like kids saying "My dad can beat up your dad". Pretty awesome :S
offensive gg?? that's pretty bm
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On October 31 2011 13:59 SoKHo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 13:38 Klaxon wrote:I got accused of map hacking because I looked for his hidden expos after I destroyed his main. I guess he thinks scouting and scans are for hackers. Then he said his friend in GM can ban me. It's like kids saying "My dad can beat up your dad". Pretty awesome :S offensive gg?? that's pretty bm
I think it was a more "Oh god, you're stupid" kind of "gg"
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On October 31 2011 13:59 SoKHo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 13:38 Klaxon wrote:I got accused of map hacking because I looked for his hidden expos after I destroyed his main. I guess he thinks scouting and scans are for hackers. Then he said his friend in GM can ban me. It's like kids saying "My dad can beat up your dad". Pretty awesome :S offensive gg?? that's pretty bm
you read message log from the bottom up?
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On October 31 2011 14:02 stokes17 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 13:59 SoKHo wrote:On October 31 2011 13:38 Klaxon wrote:I got accused of map hacking because I looked for his hidden expos after I destroyed his main. I guess he thinks scouting and scans are for hackers. Then he said his friend in GM can ban me. It's like kids saying "My dad can beat up your dad". Pretty awesome :S offensive gg?? that's pretty bm you read message log from the bottom up?
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On October 31 2011 06:03 Dzerzhinsky wrote:![[image loading]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/billie_joe34/bmallin.jpg) Meet the new 20 minute, 3 base, 160 supply Terran all-in. It's pretty strong.
this isn't BM... why are you posting this here? O_o
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On October 31 2011 14:02 stokes17 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 13:59 SoKHo wrote:On October 31 2011 13:38 Klaxon wrote:I got accused of map hacking because I looked for his hidden expos after I destroyed his main. I guess he thinks scouting and scans are for hackers. Then he said his friend in GM can ban me. It's like kids saying "My dad can beat up your dad". Pretty awesome :S offensive gg?? that's pretty bm you read message log from the bottom up?
ahh makes sense haha my bad
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I didn't screen cap mine but I was playing on the first day of season four and I was matched up against a terran. He went reactored hellions into cloaked banshee and I lost. For some reason I had DnD off.
He then messaged me saying " I always get put against some scrub platinum player and always get placed into diamond." I didn't reply. I then won my next game and got promoted into diamond. I went to check out my division and I was rank 1 and the guy who just BM'd me was rank 3. I tried to message him back but he had DnD on. 
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On October 31 2011 14:07 SoKHo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 06:03 Dzerzhinsky wrote:Meet the new 20 minute, 3 base, 160 supply Terran all-in. It's pretty strong. this isn't BM... why are you posting this here? O_o
waaaaat?
It fits confusing funny bm category the guy instead gging trys to say the terran allined (while the terran was on 3 base to 2
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The guy said something about a "moral victory" before he left the game and I didn't understand what he was talking about.
I was kind of a jerk back to him, but I still don't know what he was talking about.
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On October 31 2011 07:09 Ben... wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 10:05 Djeez wrote:
Anyway I tried that thor marine banshee allin a few times against various zergs and never lost. Banshees just deny the possible third/good for harass, and then when the haymaker comes, if zerg doesn't react perfectly it's game.
Wait, so that's an actual build? I played against that like 4 times yesterday and only won once because the other guy was awful. I though it was just bad Terrans doing the "Make a bit of everything and they won't be able to counter all of it" build. It is so frustrating because it requires a completely different composition than any other build. I've noticed a huge increase in BM and cheese since the ladder reset. It's really been ruining my fun with the game. A lot of the crappy randoms who type in all caps and try and throw you off while cheesing seem to be back. And thus, I've gone back to the usual 6pool every random and chuckle as their proxy gates are too far from their base and their 10 probes die. Also, I had anti-BM, where a guy proxy gated me then apologized and explained that he had been on an 8 game losing streak. I said it was okay and gg'd him.
if it was gold league, it was probably me.
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