Patch 1.2.0 on PTR - Page 137

On December 06 2010 12:20 sputnik.theory wrote:


hey what's your opinion on whether using map hacks is cheating?

On December 06 2010 15:06 mell0w wrote:
Hey guys

Anyone else having an issue trying to access he PTR? I heard those who only recently purchased starcraft can't get in, but I'm a preorder user so I should have that access. Would appreciate any information someone might have.

Regards

On December 06 2010 16:16 miDnight_SC wrote:
I just play a few game, and the zerg is damn hard to use.
when you need to produce 6 muta you need to press T for 6 times.
In the late game for me is impossible to control army in battle and produce unite at the same time.
I am not sure if there are option to toggle it, but i haven't found it so far

On December 06 2010 14:58 FrankWalls wrote:


is there an inside joke here?

On December 06 2010 16:16 miDnight_SC wrote:
I just play a few game, and the zerg is damn hard to use.
when you need to produce 6 muta you need to press T for 6 times.
In the late game for me is impossible to control army in battle and produce unite at the same time.
I am not sure if there are option to toggle it, but i haven't found it so far

On December 06 2010 03:54 Dente wrote:


WHY? Imagine that your hatches are bound @ 4. To make 10 roaches you click 4, s, and 10 x R. To make 10 marauders you click 4, and 10 x D. What's the difference????? Am I that stupid?

On December 06 2010 18:03 sleepingdog wrote:


Wow, I could have never imagined how "overwhelmed" some people are by simpy pressing buttons multiple times....I mean, I as protoss have to GO AWAY from the battlefield to look for a nice blue region, then press "w", then press the unit-hotkey, then hold shift and then "click" multiple times. If I want to warp in 6 stalkers, I need to go w-->s-->shift-->clickx6.
In howfar is this "easier" than if zerg needs to select hatch (5-7), press "s" (or is it?), then press the unit-hotkey multiple times?

I've never known that it was even possible for zerg to build units this "lazily" by simpy holding down a key. I honestly doubt that pro-gamers would do that anyways, I suppose they want to have control about the exact number of units they produce, no?

On December 06 2010 15:31 Charlemagne wrote:
One significant problem with the hotkeys, for zerg at least, is the timing of your army's hatching. Assuming that hitting a key 30 times takes 2-3 seconds, this means that your reinforcements will slowly waypoint single file-ish to the battle. If your opponent even threatens to move out, better forget drones and start spamming...

I honestly don't understand the philosophy behind this change. Let's take the concept further, though. Instead of being able to stim MM all at once, how about one at a time? Because any "good" player (i.e., one with twice Foxer's APM) will easily adjust and be okay? Of course, we can make the same changes with burrow, etc., and every other group action.
We can't forget control groups either, though...why allow such a "bug" when instead the player can just select and move/attack/etc. each unit individually? Going to have to get rid of rallied commands too....

Is the point of the game to be able to hit the keys fast enough, or allocate our limited attention and dexterity to positioning an army, collecting information and making decisions? It seems to me like in an "ideal" world the only limit on the player would be how fast (and well!) one can process information and make corresponding decisions. In this sense, the hotkey limit is ridiculous; if I've already intentionally saved 14 larva and the necessary resources (although this is usually an accident in reality , still pretty new to the game) and I want to start 28 zerglings now, I should be able to transmit my decision as quickly as possible. I thought this was supposed to be a key feature of zerg; weaker units, but quicker to mass up?

On December 06 2010 18:53 SeeDLiNg wrote:

Stimming one at a time would be even easier still. Believe it or not, your index finger can spam faster than your pinky can spam z. -_-

On December 06 2010 19:09 Zoler wrote:
The chat channels doesn't look very nice. Are they?

On December 06 2010 16:16 miDnight_SC wrote:
I just play a few game, and the zerg is damn hard to use.
when you need to produce 6 muta you need to press T for 6 times.