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Hi there, I'm a 700 diamond zerg with a pretty massive bonus pool. I rarely do 1v1. Yesterday, however, I was playing a custom game against a 2300 terran. After taking a significant lead in the midgame and eliminating most of his army, I slowly threw the match away by poorly managing a couple of large attacks and suiciding most of my units. He was able to come back into the game and win. While it is impossible to say if I would have won that game or not, I feel like my inability to reach control groups past 5 is, at the moment, the biggest issue to my improvement as a player.
Though we both made other mistakes that game, I feel having even 2 or 3 extra army keys would benefit me greatly. Right now, my inefficient hotkey set up forces some very awkward bindings and is in general pretty bad. I don't know why I can't reach the 6+ hotkeys, maybe my fingers are shorter than normal, or coming from an FPS background I just never learned. My options are to:
1) Work with what I can do and improve the keys that I can effectively use. I generally have the following:
1 Hatch
2 Hatch (expo)
3 Melee army (ling/bling usually)
4 Other army (muta or roach/hydra)
5 Overseer/3rd hatch
Maybe late game I can put all of my hatches into 1 key? However this would make injecting difficult, and a main reason I don't do this already is that units will come out of the wrong hatches and could be sniped on their way to the rally.
2) Wait until Blizzard introduces some kind of custom hotkey feature. I could bind F1-F4 and tilde to control groups, or even use my mouse side buttons. This would probably be the best scenario.
3) Force myself to only use hotkeys 6-0. This would probably be painful and I would start to hate the game and punch a baby. :D.
TLDR: I can only reach keys 1-5 and it's beginning to affect my play. What should I do?
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Put things you use less on hotkeys 6-0 so you rarely stretch for them.
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I had a similar problem so I put my hatcheries on 6 and queens after that. This forced me to frequently use buttons past 5 and freed up 1-5 for units.
This will make you lose games because you think you built units or overlords, but didn't.
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IMO, you should move hatches+queens to 4 and above and have 123 reserved for armies.
4sd55v66v etc is a lot more fluid than 1sd2sd5sd
I am actually trying to switch hatches to 5 and queens to 6+ so i have 1-4 for better army management.
However, it is all about comfort. Do what works best for you. Don't change your hotkey setup to how your favorite pro has it.
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You can rebind the group hotkeys for 6-0 to F1-F5 completely legally by placing custom hotkey file (file extension has to be .sc2hotkeys) in "<My Documents>\Starcraft II\Hotkeys" (you may have to create the "Hotkeys" subfolder); then you can simply select that hotkey scheme in the in-game options menu.
For example, I am using this file: (using the left grid settings as basis)
+ Show Spoiler [Untitled Hotkeys.sc2hotkeys] +[Settings]
Suffix=_GLS
[Commands]
CommandButton00=Q
CommandButton01=W
CommandButton02=E
CommandButton03=R
CommandButton04=T
CommandButton05=A
CommandButton06=S
CommandButton07=D
CommandButton08=F
CommandButton09=G
CommandButton10=Z
CommandButton11=X
CommandButton12=C
CommandButton13=V
CommandButton14=B,Escape
ControlGroupRecall1=1
ControlGroupRecall2=2
ControlGroupRecall3=3
ControlGroupRecall4=4
ControlGroupRecall5=5
ControlGroupRecall6=F1
ControlGroupRecall7=F2
ControlGroupRecall8=F3
ControlGroupRecall9=F4
ControlGroupRecall0=F5
ControlGroupAssign1=Control+1
ControlGroupAssign2=Control+2
ControlGroupAssign3=Control+3
ControlGroupAssign4=Control+4
ControlGroupAssign5=Control+5
ControlGroupAssign6=Control+F1
ControlGroupAssign7=Control+F2
ControlGroupAssign8=Control+F3
ControlGroupAssign9=Control+F4
ControlGroupAssign0=Control+F5
ControlGroupAppend1=Shift+1
ControlGroupAppend2=Shift+2
ControlGroupAppend3=Shift+3
ControlGroupAppend4=Shift+4
ControlGroupAppend5=Shift+5
ControlGroupAppend6=Shift+F1
ControlGroupAppend7=Shift+F2
ControlGroupAppend8=Shift+F3
ControlGroupAppend9=Shift+F4
ControlGroupAppend0=Shift+F5
IdleWorker=Grave
TownCamera=H
WarpIn=6
[Note that this method does not allow custom hotkeys for abilities/units/buildings]
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You probably don't need more than 3-4 hotkeys for units. I would say put everything else past there and learn to box/flank/set up.
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Why can you only reach 1-5? Your hand isn't glued to the keyboard is it? So lift it up and hit 6-0. Progamers don't have magical hands that cover the entire keyboard, they just train a lot so they can quickly hit those buttons without looking or missing.
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On December 01 2010 22:57 Comma20 wrote:
Put things you use less on hotkeys 6-0 so you rarely stretch for them.
I disagree, that's just being lazy and very bad advice, there is no reason to be scared of utilizing all hotkeys up to 0, your game will suffer a lot if you restrain yourself to using only the first few hotkeys.
The best way to get better at this game is push yourself hard, people only hit a wall when they get lazy by thinking stuff like 'I can't be bothered to move my hand around the keyboard', I can't be bothered to scout properly' etc etc...
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On December 01 2010 23:09 UntitledQ wrote:You can rebind the group hotkeys for 6-0 to F1-F5 completely legally by placing custom hotkey file (file extension has to be .sc2hotkeys) in "<My Documents>\Starcraft II\Hotkeys" (you may have to create the "Hotkeys" subfolder); then you can simply select that hotkey scheme in the in-game options menu. For example, I am using this file: (using the left grid settings as basis) + Show Spoiler [Untitled Hotkeys.sc2hotkeys] +[Settings]
Suffix=_GLS
[Commands]
CommandButton00=Q
CommandButton01=W
CommandButton02=E
CommandButton03=R
CommandButton04=T
CommandButton05=A
CommandButton06=S
CommandButton07=D
CommandButton08=F
CommandButton09=G
CommandButton10=Z
CommandButton11=X
CommandButton12=C
CommandButton13=V
CommandButton14=B,Escape
ControlGroupRecall1=1
ControlGroupRecall2=2
ControlGroupRecall3=3
ControlGroupRecall4=4
ControlGroupRecall5=5
ControlGroupRecall6=F1
ControlGroupRecall7=F2
ControlGroupRecall8=F3
ControlGroupRecall9=F4
ControlGroupRecall0=F5
ControlGroupAssign1=Control+1
ControlGroupAssign2=Control+2
ControlGroupAssign3=Control+3
ControlGroupAssign4=Control+4
ControlGroupAssign5=Control+5
ControlGroupAssign6=Control+F1
ControlGroupAssign7=Control+F2
ControlGroupAssign8=Control+F3
ControlGroupAssign9=Control+F4
ControlGroupAssign0=Control+F5
ControlGroupAppend1=Shift+1
ControlGroupAppend2=Shift+2
ControlGroupAppend3=Shift+3
ControlGroupAppend4=Shift+4
ControlGroupAppend5=Shift+5
ControlGroupAppend6=Shift+F1
ControlGroupAppend7=Shift+F2
ControlGroupAppend8=Shift+F3
ControlGroupAppend9=Shift+F4
ControlGroupAppend0=Shift+F5
IdleWorker=Grave
TownCamera=H
WarpIn=6
[Note that this method does not allow custom hotkeys for abilities/units/buildings]
Blizzard actually stated that this is illegal and a bannable offence to anyone doing this to some guy on their official forum.
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On December 01 2010 22:57 Comma20 wrote:
Put things you use less on hotkeys 6-0 so you rarely stretch for them.
Uhh.. Do the exact opposite of this, and you'll slowly get better at reaching your other hotkeys because you're using them more.
That said there's a very small chance that 5 hotkeys isn't enough for you to become one of the very best of players.
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On December 01 2010 23:17 Cephei wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 23:09 UntitledQ wrote:You can rebind the group hotkeys for 6-0 to F1-F5 completely legally by placing custom hotkey file (file extension has to be .sc2hotkeys) in "<My Documents>\Starcraft II\Hotkeys" (you may have to create the "Hotkeys" subfolder); then you can simply select that hotkey scheme in the in-game options menu. For example, I am using this file: (using the left grid settings as basis) + Show Spoiler [Untitled Hotkeys.sc2hotkeys] +[Settings]
Suffix=_GLS
[Commands]
CommandButton00=Q
CommandButton01=W
CommandButton02=E
CommandButton03=R
CommandButton04=T
CommandButton05=A
CommandButton06=S
CommandButton07=D
CommandButton08=F
CommandButton09=G
CommandButton10=Z
CommandButton11=X
CommandButton12=C
CommandButton13=V
CommandButton14=B,Escape
ControlGroupRecall1=1
ControlGroupRecall2=2
ControlGroupRecall3=3
ControlGroupRecall4=4
ControlGroupRecall5=5
ControlGroupRecall6=F1
ControlGroupRecall7=F2
ControlGroupRecall8=F3
ControlGroupRecall9=F4
ControlGroupRecall0=F5
ControlGroupAssign1=Control+1
ControlGroupAssign2=Control+2
ControlGroupAssign3=Control+3
ControlGroupAssign4=Control+4
ControlGroupAssign5=Control+5
ControlGroupAssign6=Control+F1
ControlGroupAssign7=Control+F2
ControlGroupAssign8=Control+F3
ControlGroupAssign9=Control+F4
ControlGroupAssign0=Control+F5
ControlGroupAppend1=Shift+1
ControlGroupAppend2=Shift+2
ControlGroupAppend3=Shift+3
ControlGroupAppend4=Shift+4
ControlGroupAppend5=Shift+5
ControlGroupAppend6=Shift+F1
ControlGroupAppend7=Shift+F2
ControlGroupAppend8=Shift+F3
ControlGroupAppend9=Shift+F4
ControlGroupAppend0=Shift+F5
IdleWorker=Grave
TownCamera=H
WarpIn=6
[Note that this method does not allow custom hotkeys for abilities/units/buildings] Blizzard actually stated that this is illegal and a bannable offence to anyone doing this to some guy on their official forum. Oh... I'm shocked to hear that. I guess I'll take a look at that thread myself.
I've actually been using this for a few months now; I haven't been banned though...
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Set all your queens to 4 and hatcheries above that, when you want to inject just push 4 then hold V and right shift, let go of V and tap backspace and left mouse button. This will make all your hatcheries injected in a matter of 1-3 sec depending on how fast your are.
Armies for 1-3
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On December 01 2010 23:21 UntitledQ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 23:17 Cephei wrote:On December 01 2010 23:09 UntitledQ wrote:You can rebind the group hotkeys for 6-0 to F1-F5 completely legally by placing custom hotkey file (file extension has to be .sc2hotkeys) in "<My Documents>\Starcraft II\Hotkeys" (you may have to create the "Hotkeys" subfolder); then you can simply select that hotkey scheme in the in-game options menu. For example, I am using this file: (using the left grid settings as basis) + Show Spoiler [Untitled Hotkeys.sc2hotkeys] +[Settings]
Suffix=_GLS
[Commands]
CommandButton00=Q
CommandButton01=W
CommandButton02=E
CommandButton03=R
CommandButton04=T
CommandButton05=A
CommandButton06=S
CommandButton07=D
CommandButton08=F
CommandButton09=G
CommandButton10=Z
CommandButton11=X
CommandButton12=C
CommandButton13=V
CommandButton14=B,Escape
ControlGroupRecall1=1
ControlGroupRecall2=2
ControlGroupRecall3=3
ControlGroupRecall4=4
ControlGroupRecall5=5
ControlGroupRecall6=F1
ControlGroupRecall7=F2
ControlGroupRecall8=F3
ControlGroupRecall9=F4
ControlGroupRecall0=F5
ControlGroupAssign1=Control+1
ControlGroupAssign2=Control+2
ControlGroupAssign3=Control+3
ControlGroupAssign4=Control+4
ControlGroupAssign5=Control+5
ControlGroupAssign6=Control+F1
ControlGroupAssign7=Control+F2
ControlGroupAssign8=Control+F3
ControlGroupAssign9=Control+F4
ControlGroupAssign0=Control+F5
ControlGroupAppend1=Shift+1
ControlGroupAppend2=Shift+2
ControlGroupAppend3=Shift+3
ControlGroupAppend4=Shift+4
ControlGroupAppend5=Shift+5
ControlGroupAppend6=Shift+F1
ControlGroupAppend7=Shift+F2
ControlGroupAppend8=Shift+F3
ControlGroupAppend9=Shift+F4
ControlGroupAppend0=Shift+F5
IdleWorker=Grave
TownCamera=H
WarpIn=6
[Note that this method does not allow custom hotkeys for abilities/units/buildings] Blizzard actually stated that this is illegal and a bannable offence to anyone doing this to some guy on their official forum. Oh... I'm shocked to hear that. I guess I'll take a look at that thread myself. I've actually been using this for a few months now; I haven't been banned though...
this is not true or atleast this information is months old , blizzard has now stated that they WILL implement key changes. So atm you can change any key you want till 1key = 1action (meaning no macros).
+ blizzard cant see if you would change your keys with a program (about the file your using inside the blizz map im not so sure)
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The only thread mentioning the hotkey file method with blue responses I could find is this one, and the blue only seems to be concerned with editing game files / MPQs, not addressing this file adding method at all. There's also announcements about proper detailed (for units and abilities) hotkey reconfiguration in there, which is somewhat heartening.
Anyway, I'll stop derailing this thread 
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I have kind of the same problem, everything past 5 is too far for me, otherwise i'll have serious RSI problems  . Therefore, i have a mouse with extra buttons on it, allowing me to put the 6-0 keys on my mouse instead. As far as i know its legal, and I use it for almost every game i play.
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On December 01 2010 23:20 Uncultured wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 22:57 Comma20 wrote:
Put things you use less on hotkeys 6-0 so you rarely stretch for them. Uhh.. Do the exact opposite of this, and you'll slowly get better at reaching your other hotkeys because you're using them more. That said there's a very small chance that 5 hotkeys isn't enough for you to become one of the very best of players.
5 are def not enough as zerg. sure you can go with less in a 2 base roach/hydra game but in the end you want to have evry expo location hotkeyed, different unit types seperated , maybe tumors,ovis,overseers or a additional key for all hatches/queens.
/edit but yeah its almost never the mainthing holding you back.
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I have the same problem as you, and I think that custom hotkeys would be very nice (I'm a fan of using the function keys in other games), but recently I've been trying not to "attach" my hand to one place on the keyboard.
I think it's natural for use to rest our hand in one place and not really move it from there and just press keys we can reach from that place, but I've been trying to move my hand more and almost try to hover over the keys a little bit, so far it is going terrible and I usually resort to my old way, but I guess you can try it and see how it goes for you lol.
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Yeah I guess I will have to spam ladder games and just get used to the extra keys. It probably doesn't help that I also use grid so many hatchery related functions are on the very left of the keyboard. So at the moment its easy to just 11x22x or 1qqq2qqqq.
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I'm interested in rebinding the group hotkeys for 6-0 to F1-F5, as UntitledQ suggested, except I play on a imac. Can I do this the same way as if I ran windows?
Regardless, I will check it out later today & report back for the benefit of the few mac users here.
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I'm a 1500 plat zerg player here. I play free-style so I don't exactly fallow any build becide when I place my pool. I use a graphic tablet and a pen instent of a mouse so I'm hoping the way I play isnt too different from using one.
I use the grid type of hotkeys (qwert,asdfg, zxcvb) so if there is any group hotkey that is too far from my finguers I just hit them with my pen when i'm in an hurry.
This is what I use or try to :
Hotkey 1 : My main army or anything I want to access fast at the begening of the game such as drones to build stuff or the tree drones to quickly put them in gaz and get two out once I hit 100.
Hotkey 2 : Would be what I want to micro such as banlings. They are in my main army but I just micro them separetly after a comand to the main was given.I have to stop doing that though because in one game, I suicided them over a rock x_x;.
Hotkey 3 : This would be my casters such as infestors. That group just fallow my main so I never have to give them move comand becide when I do want to mess with them.
I haven't made a purpose to the hotkeys from 5 to 8 becide my overseer and key places I want to access quick whitout searching for them. Things like where in hell is my only overseer when I need it would be something I would want to put there even if I never do. The changeling could find its place around those hotkeys.
Hotkey 9 : All my queens. There is no mean to place each of them in a different hotkey bacide if you have x for creep and x for vomiting. I use the back space to get to each of my hatchery fast so no need to individually build anything at them bicide if I build an infestor and I want a safe path for him to go to.
Hotkey 0 : My hatcheries. Even at the begening, I feel there is no use to have it close because you have all the time to get to it if anything is needed.
If there is anything else I need I just prepair acordingly. If im being banshee harassed, my queens may find their way in a closer group but If I dont mean to do anything then vomitin, then it isnt urgent.
I hope this been usefull usefull to you. If you're looking for some buddies to practice with, I would be happy to be yours.
- Marie
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