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On January 19 2011 11:22 rauk wrote:
i think they said in the blizz panel that they do filter for activity
Well, RootCatz is still on top 200 on LA, even though he doesn't play since 11th Jan.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/pt/profile/210314/2/ROOTCatZ/
Edit:
What I could grasp:
1) The old math doesn't work even for diamond players. (edit2: probably just a sorting problem though)
2) Inactivity (1 week) isn't a problem. (edit2: but inactive players will be lower on top 200)
3) Being diamond isn't a problem for top 200. This is interesting, that might prove that the system promote at somewhat random, or that the top 200 is somewhat random. (edit2: this isn't specially interesting, a top 5 diamond just means the sorting isn't by MMR)
4) It seems that having too little games (40-70) is a problem, so even diamond (that is suposedly lower than master) will be prevalent over them. (Edit2: low games isn't a problem, low activity is)
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isnt it more likely for it to be a top 200 generation bug then anything else?
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On January 19 2011 11:53 Sfydjklm wrote:
isnt it more likely for it to be a top 200 generation bug then anything else?
It is a possibility, but I kind of doubt it.
There could be only one difference from the new and old moddel. Instead of sorting by points, they now sort by something else (games played, activity, Idk), but it is still the top 200 points or mmr.
A good question would be: is there someone what should be there by mmr or points but isn't? If the answer is no, then the change could be only on sorting.
Edit:
Most players till top 127 on LA master on sc2ranks site are on top 200, the 128+ aren't though.
Coindence? I don't think so. Blizzard is still getting the top MMR/Points or whatever, just as before, they are just sorting them in a weird way.
I'll still take till tomorrow to have a full parse, sorry.
Edit2: I think they sorted it by activity or some math that involves activity.
Edit3: I just noticed there are no ties anymore, it would be weird to people to tie on activity, right? ^^
New theory on top 200 making:
3 pre-requisites:
1) Top X MMR
2) Top Y Points (edit5: actually points doesn't seem to be a criteria at all, it was a sorting criteria before, but now it means nothing it seems)
3) Top Z Activity
Then they sort it by anything they want, it used to be points, but it is now activity.
Edit4: That is interesting cause it tell us that activity by Blizzard isn't about "last day you played a game", but "how many games you played in the last X time", so a player that plays 1 game every week could be forever inactive on blizzard system.
Edit6: Blizzard actually has a good reason for sorting it by activity instead of points this week. The promotion reset means points will mean little for some time, so sorting by it would be weird. Ok, sorting by activity is also weird...
Edit7: If it was sorted by points, then master league offset would be very obvious. Unfortunetelly, all I can say is that master offset is probably between 120 and 190 points from a S Rank Diamond point of view.
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The only info I have so far is that a different formula was used to calculate this week's Top 200 to compensate for the point reset that occurred when everyone went into Master league. That probably had an adverse effect on Diamond as well. That doesn't really make it any easier to figure out the new formula but this may turn out to just be an anomalous week. Maybe they'll go back to the old formula in future weeks, after points have stabilized a bit. I've reached out to the community team to see if they can provide an explanation.
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Okay I got the real info. This week's Top 200 was actually erroneously being ranked by spent bonus pool. It's since been updated as of an hour ago. I'll start a new parse right now.
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So here it is:
Blizz Name Record Rating Division Bonus Pool League
1 SeleCT 617-234 3553 Routhe Omicron 5,6
2 PiQLiQ 1928-1444 3789 Vulture Foxtrot 26,27
3 FXOmOoNan 814-557 3372 Viking Kappa 7,8
4 GoOdy 153-53 2665 Zekrath Psi 43,44
5 Kowi 1277-927 3569 Viking Kappa unk
6 lalush 197-79 2988 Nahaan Lima 22,23
7 ROOTqxc 500-221 2586 Vulture Foxtrot 53,54
8 ppgBubbles 1490-1182 3551 Ehlna Chi 1,3
9 vVvTitan 315-197 3149 Alzadar Eta 20,21
10 NrGdde 439-298 2876 Adun Zed 37,38
11 sixjaxDDE 154-73 2914 Lassatar Pi 71,72
12 NrGostojiy 608-446 3242 Void Ray Bravo 1,6
13 TTOne 762-442
14 tQSungpA 981-826 3355 War Pigs Rho 10,11
15 EGAxslav 683-478 2814 Nahaan Lima 8,9
16 NamhciR 530-304 3229 Argo X-Ray 2,13
17 vVvMurDeR 373-211 2819 Routhe Omicron 52,53
18 ROOTDdoRo 1025-792 3277 Templar Alpha unk
19 TheZealot 158-75 2738 Hellion Tango 122,23
20 NOVAstalife 546-373 3231 Routhe Omicron 8,9
21 NrGCocoA 727-536 3282 Tabrenus Zeta 4,15
22 Maker 972-829 2615 Moria Romeo 8,9
23 coLrsvp 843-678 3432 Viking Kappa
24 Flash 172-100 3316 Kaloth Tau
25 ONEGatored 505-407 3186 Kaloth Tau
26 Baz 1946-1654 3424 Viking Kappa
27 REQchbeUBC 918-753 3354 Ehlna Chi
28 FXOpTiKzErO 945-716 3357 Nargil Epsilon
29 FXOSheth 165-92 3261 Corsair November
30 dKiLLeR 330-208 2774 Corsair November
31 OnEMoReTrY 475-360 3097 Argo X-Ray
32 vVvNGry 298-202 2915 Swann Oscar
33 Katari 1762-1108 3389 Templar Alpha
34 MnMVadar 861-723 3088 Nahaan Lima
35 avilo 953-810 3355 Nahaan Lima
36 ONEKyhol 772-594 3295 Artika Uncle
37 HasHe 1229-941 3270 Moria Romeo
38 DuFFmAn 1005-846 3110 Templar Alpha
39 InflowLinko 612-462 3153 Tal'darim Kilo
40 ROOTslush 787-498 3116 Argo X-Ray
41 DeAtHRoW 494-322 3221 Routhe Omicron
42 ReSpOnSe 1056-890 2777 Tabrenus Zeta
43 VTZerker 979-868 3329 Kaloth Tau
44 coLFireZerg 586-470 3082 Zerus Pepper
45 ThisIsJimmy 773-624 3148 Vulture Foxtrot
46 Perfect 765-647 3333 Alzadar Eta
47 VTPokebunny 348-253 2686 Nahaan Lima
48 Levin 775-589 3171 Siege Tank Sierra
49 Capoch 559-424 2686 Moratun Beta
50 ONECrunCher 620-462 3285 Swann Oscar
51 Gretorp 458-330 2638 Artika Uncle
52 REQZeuS 318-224 3095 Tabrenus Zeta
53 AlexCMoi 484-338 2971 Viking Kappa
54 Spanishiwa 485-382 3331 Vulture Foxtrot
55 coLGanon 332-249 3075 Moratun Beta
56 tQState 622-521 3220 Nahaan Lima
57 EGStrifeCro 609-418 2888 Moria Romeo
58 EtsurLizzuma 997-894 3282 Kaloth Tau
59 vVvRigid 776-626 3197 Argo X-Ray
60 BoO 720-597 3109 Alzadar Eta
61 VTSpades 859-715 3018 Tabrenus Zeta
62 Dream 598-469 2897 Colossus Alamo
63 Roses 119-40 2481 Zekrath Psi
64 YoonYJ 204-140 3143 Siege Tank Sierra
65 ACERGAMEGMMA 2262-2062 3259 Nargil Epsilon
66 REQDarkCell 327-252 2782 Moratun Beta
67 NrGViBE 143-87 2978 Colossus Alamo
68 LiquidTyler 265-140 2695 Argo X-Ray
69 EGLzGaMeR 726-578 3017 Templar Alpha
70 vileEchoic 598-514 3251 Routhe Omicron
71 sixjaxViBE 402-278 2920 Void Ray Bravo
72 ONEPerp 175-118 3192 Zerus Pepper
73 LiquidRet 207-78 2341 Swann Oscar
74 TriMaster 362-283 2807 Kaloth Tau
75 SlayerSBekHo 352-271 3011 Braxis Theta
76 EGiNkA 591-423 2519 Kagg Yankee
77 coLSUGGY 96-37 2620 Adun Zed
78 LagTTJEcho 739-637 3222 Tabrenus Zeta
79 Ryze 1442-1297 3290 Lockwell Mu
80 NrGMalice 871-658 2802 Ehlna Chi
81 NrGCheese 471-289 2289 Zekrath Psi 156,57
82 MoMaN 294-193 2325 Defiler Dixie 120,21
83 Blackbeard 180-118 3002 Lockwell Mu 31,32
84 NadaViKinG 517-412 3104 Kagg Yankee 8,9
85 InflowMini 1383-1137 3740 Scout Kilo 162,63 Diamond
86 Hawk 522-426 3231 Siege Tank Sierra 11,12
87 RaNgeD 1113-968 2999 Tabrenus Zeta 19,20
88 ROOTCatZ 1178-975 3171 Kaloth Tau 2,3
89 Arcanne 208-151 3073 Colossus Alamo
90 EGiNcontroL 926-708 3017 Argo X-Ray
91 REQtheognis 410-316 2623 Tabrenus Zeta
92 VTAttero 282-196 2978 Moria Romeo
93 TaurosPKM 694-598 2913 Praetor Whiskey
94 NrGHumble 347-269 2850 Argo X-Ray
95 SlayerSCella 476-320 3191 Defiler Dixie
96 SCIIUS 172-77 2811 Colossus Alamo
97 SPeCiaLiST 902-779 3208 Templar Alpha
98 SKU 313-237 2954 Lockwell Mu
99 tQorGETSLAMT 486-390 3227 Moratun Beta
100 mystik 580-498 3100 Templar Alpha
101 JediGamer 590-509 3129 Typhon Hawk
102 CombatEX 1146-1039 3130 Ehlna Chi
103 Baxo 333-240 3203 Nova Indigo
104 ObsoleteMan 173-109 2373 Zekrath Psi 127,28
105 ScourgeCorp 146-96 3111 Nargil Epsilon
106 LuckyFool 591-489 2742 Siege Tank Sierra
107 sPstoddman 805-663 2738 Alzadar Eta
108 MnMEdward 1242-1104 3015 Templar Alpha
109 LGenvY 891-761 3170 Lockwell Mu
110 Fan 364-309 3093 Moratun Beta
111 bLuR 702-580 3079 Argo X-Ray
112 Destiny 1129-1017 3149 Moratun Beta
113 daisuki 372-320 3104 War Pigs Rho
114 vVvTime 1303-1157 3187 Kaloth Tau
115 LGAgh 718-571 2862 Corsair November
116 Xomp 660-580 3009 Braxis Theta
117 DarkChiGoXPn 763-685 3052 Tabrenus Zeta
118 Polar 487-414 2868 Ehlna Chi
119 Ikki 636-544 3160 Templar Alpha
120 LGKangwook 691-586 2984 Adun Zed
121 TheMagician 511-446 3144 Moratun Beta
122 lovemyRM 731-647 2810 Tabrenus Zeta
123 iloveoov 151-99 2690 Templar Alpha
124 Shokan 155-94 2943 Hellion Tango
125 Azz 671-577 3037 Nargil Epsilon
126 Flashback 708-616 3159 Lockwell Mu
127 LGZelniq 1387-1137 3186 Siege Tank Sierra
128 OdiN 1104-992 3156 Nahaan Lima
129 Fortune 234-190 3137 Routhe Omicron
130 tehredbandit 517-436 2991 Zerus Pepper
131 Drew 474-394 2736 Lockwell Mu 11,12
132 NrGsteve 488-404 2607 Corsair November
133 ccStrength 605-525 3124 Templar Alpha
134 REQSlaineD 711-627 3087 Lockwell Mu
135 mkengyn 633-551 2878 Nova Indigo
136 Ver 154-89 2593 Baneling Charlie
137 SCAahehoo 1138-1052 3022 Corsair November
138 ZekoXPn 614-521 2703 Zerus Pepper
139 REQPhiliBiRD 293-228 2853 Tabrenus Zeta
140 Mankeyz 414-314 2139 Swann Oscar
141 SonKiE 798-724 3136 Tabrenus Zeta
142 huyNh 611-534 2789 Pylon Gamma
143 Magnanimouse 349-277 3138 Void Ray Bravo
144 xObAnGoO 324-248 2737 War Pigs Rho
145 NvU 276-203 2603 Braxis Theta
146 PLZLEAVEDUCK 778-676 3147 Siege Tank Sierra
147 ReasoN 242-157 2124 Siege Tank Sierra 321,22
148 Domorin 541-472 3056 Kaloth Tau
149 ROOTMinigun 286-227 3128 Nahaan Lima
150 Yakero 233-73 1868 Kagg Yankee 577,78
151 Xog 1006-913 3101 Tal'darim Kilo
152 Kashimashi 109-38 3127 Shuttle Nu 406-07 Diamond
153 Goph 215-144 2639 Praetor Whiskey
154 nGenJazBas 211-145 2541 Argo X-Ray
155 SiN 844-718 2968 Moria Romeo
156 sPsRebuke 817-633 2805 Swann Oscar
157 RuFF 1458-1297 3119 Siege Tank Sierra
158 iGware 248-176 3106 Ehlna Chi
159 tGAndroid 864-724 3130 Zerus Pepper
160 InflowYeN 914-755 3075 Tabrenus Zeta
161 AcidiC 748-662 3087 Nargil Epsilon
162 lamp 336-245 2851 Nargil Epsilon
163 tQSpeake 356-288 2607 Routhe Omicron
164 Wannabecool 753-666 3099 Argo X-Ray
165 LGPainUser 501-323 2165 Phash Delta 280,81
166 makoplux 690-623 2920 Zekrath Psi
167 DavidLynch 160-121 3000 Nova Indigo
168 FullTiltPokr 206-154 3208 Shuttle Nu 206,07 Diamond
169 RyanNOVA 326-243 2887 Templar Alpha
170 KiaL 116-74 2590 Hellion Tango
171 aLeJ 343-261 2421 Vulture Foxtrot
172 Pit 870-774 3133 Nahaan Lima
173 junny 329-243 2302 Kaloth Tau
174 BigBadBeaver 1051-954 2880 Routhe Omicron
175 Namkung 430-362 2727 Nargil Epsilon
176 LGShew 513-450 2984 Nargil Epsilon
177 LaGTTBandino 725-629 2590 Siege Tank Sierra
178 Smurf 374-289 2651 War Pigs Rho
179 lmaonnaise 198-136 2843 Lockwell Mu 37,38
180 Kalu 408-309 3275 Rimes Tau 143,44 Diamond
181 Inflames 756-664 2745 Tal'darim Kilo 24,25
182 phantaxx 1269-1157 2934 Lockwell Mu
183 xiSlurgi 801-694 3028 Viking Kappa
184 kcdc 1622-1523 3089 Tabrenus Zeta
185 InflowLooky 1087-953 2993 Nargil Epsilon
186 coLAntimage 531-422 3056 Viking Kappa
187 BioOrMech 473-408 2990 Moratun Beta
188 ROOTdrewbie 317-152 1996 Argo X-Ray 479,80
189 ExPLiciT 748-668 3039 Defiler Dixie
190 Perplexity 795-662 2168 Alzadar Eta 277,78
191 shaNk 420-338 2718 Templar Alpha 14,15
192 ButteryLlama 770-663 2669 War Pigs Rho
193 Quakie 119-54 2600 Nahaan Lima
194 Mewtwo 1008-931 3088 Moratun Beta
195 binski 327-266 2758 Tal'darim Kilo
196 InflowCoppah 782-649 2846 Lockwell Mu
197 AoNe 937-849 2967 Zekrath Psi
198 tQsKuLLz 499-418 3013 Templar Alpha
199 xiLost 508-432 2654 Siege Tank Sierra
200 Fingo 537-463 3065 Templar Alpha
Supposedly the calculation had something to do with monitoring the bonus pool as well, so I decided to list the possible remaining bonus pool for players where anomalies existed. Some Diamond players also appeared in the Top 200 this week, and I noted that where applicable as well. I still can't find any correlation between these points and the bonus pool, even knowing that one exists.
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On January 19 2011 10:10 Excalibur_Z wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2011 09:50 MorefaSho wrote:On January 19 2011 08:47 Excalibur_Z wrote:Who wants to read about Master league Top 200 parses that make no sense??? Blizz Name Record Rating Division
1 vVvRigid 764-618 3095 Argo X-Ray
2 tQState 607-509 3037 Nahaan Lima
3 SlayerSCella 467-310 3134 Defiler Dixie
4 PiQLiQ 1922-1440 3754 Vulture Foxtrot
5 PLZLEAVEDUCK 770-671 3064 Siege Tank Sierra
6 daisuki 351-306 2904 War Pigs Rho
7 tGFrO 1494-1405 3013 Argo X-Ray
8 tQmagnavox 1262-1148 3024 Kaloth Tau
9 iRealEyes 431-373 2970 Artika Uncle
10 Sieg 680-618 2920 Nahaan Lima
11 Despiron 655-582 2639 Argo X-Ray
12 REQRookie 675-623 2840 Tabrenus Zeta
13 ONECrunCher 595-433 3461 Swann Oscar
14 DarkChiGoXPn 759-678 3007 Tabrenus Zeta
15 tQorGETSLAMT 450-362 3047 Moratun Beta
16 tGAndroid 858-723 3050 Zerus Pepper
17 tQsKuLLz 483-396 3007 Templar Alpha
18 Jobless 492-422 2874 Ehlna Chi
19 TerranUApart 915-826 2870 Swann Oscar
20 Perfect 757-644 3231 Alzadar Eta
21 Blackbeard 180-118 3002 Lockwell Mu
22 RaNgeD 1111-966 2961 Tabrenus Zeta
23 SPeCiaLiST 901-779 3184 Templar Alpha
24 tehredbandit 516-432 2982 Zerus Pepper
25 TalorSwftfan 1046-936 3047 Tabrenus Zeta
26 DeAtHRoW 490-319 3149 Routhe Omicron
27 VTFuture 733-646 2860 Zerus Pepper
28 ppgBubbles 1471-1172 3472 Ehlna Chi
29 ExPLiciT 741-659 3050 Defiler Dixie
30 makoplux 688-621 2880 Zekrath Psi
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200 Pride 356-280 2881 Zerus Pepper
I'm still trying to piece things together here but so far I'm not seeing any kind of logical correlations. This is just a hypothesis, but since the master league ratings seems to be converging on the adjusted diamond-league ratings pre-patch (or something similar), is it possible that the normal "inactivity" penalty for not having used up all the bonus isn't as straight forward? Since some players have only been inactive for a couple of weeks, they don't have that much bonus, but possibly having played enough games for their master league rating to converge on their MMR? So for example if some player was 3000 pre-patch in a class S division, but only played enough games to get their bonus pool to 0, but not enough to get their rating to the MMR, they're still being treated at their MMR? I didn't look at this exhaustively, but I did consider that maybe it was a bonus pool thing. I compared two people within the same division: 12 REQRookie 675-623 2840 Tabrenus Zeta (current bonus pool: 4, pool at time of snapshot: possibly 0) 14 DarkChiGoXPn 759-678 3007 Tabrenus Zeta (current bonus pool: 3, pool at time of snapshot: maybe 1 or 2 at the most?) It doesn't explain the huge gap in points.
Yea, this week's top 200 is a clusterfuck. No idea where all these new players came from or why they're ranked the way they are.
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On January 21 2011 07:10 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Okay I got the real info. This week's Top 200 was actually erroneously being ranked by spent bonus pool. It's since been updated as of an hour ago. I'll start a new parse right now.
Well, there was no bronze or gold players there, that mainly proves that they first elect the top X MMR (X > 200), and just then sort by something, like points. Cool.
Edit2: Scrap edit1.
Edit3: I think I am close to confirm that the master "advantage" from a S Diamond point of view is 126!! It might be impossible to prove 126 as the exact number today, but it is indeed somethign between 120-180 
Edit4: Though it's obvious that players with more bonus points are higher than they should be by points alone, the correlation is not perfect, and this week fixed top 200 could actually be top 200 MMR (without the inactive players), or it use some internal numbers that could be MMR or not to make the math. That said, I think it's impossible for us to guess the formula this time.
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I did a 1/4 parse on LA Top 200:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AoPq9zdgd7owdEo4UkNpRm9PdHVLMUVVNkxSQWhzWkE&hl=en#gid=0
Nothing is clear to me, they are most likelly using internal number to do the math, so it's pointless to try to figure much out of this. Though it seems to correlate MMR this time! (maybe it's now sorted by MMR?)
The top diamond players are inactive since before patch, which explain they being that high on Top 200, they do have high MMR, just having played yet. So I'd bet it is sorted by MMR this time!
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"If S rank" is a normalization to keep diamond players within the S Rank divisions range.
I used the spot to try what if master are indeed +126 from S ranks, don't take it for granted.
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Someone just got demoted from Master. Not sure of his points before he was demoted, but he now has 73 + spent bonus pool in Diamond and is in division Drone Whiskey. Drone Whiskey, fortunately enough, has a known offset of +63. It seems that there would be no way to know that if we didn't have the Top 200 and find that out previously.
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On January 21 2011 11:57 SDream wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2011 07:10 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Okay I got the real info. This week's Top 200 was actually erroneously being ranked by spent bonus pool. It's since been updated as of an hour ago. I'll start a new parse right now. Well, there was no bronze or gold players there, that mainly proves that they first elect the top X MMR (X > 200), and just then sort by something, like points. Cool. Edit2: Scrap edit1. Edit3: I think I am close to confirm that the master "advantage" from a S Diamond point of view is 126!! It might be impossible to prove 126 as the exact number today, but it is indeed somethign between 120-180 Edit4: Though it's obvious that players with more bonus points are higher than they should be by points alone, the correlation is not perfect, and this week fixed top 200 could actually be top 200 MMR (without the inactive players), or it use some internal numbers that could be MMR or not to make the math. That said, I think it's impossible for us to guess the formula this time.
I'm pretty sure your thinking here is wrong. Master League isn't part of the same contiguous ladder as Bronze --> Diamond, since points are completely reset when new players enter Master League. Not that there isn't correlation between Diamond points and Master points, but as far as I can see there is no "offset" between S Diamond and Master
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On January 22 2011 09:04 ChrysaliS_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2011 11:57 SDream wrote:On January 21 2011 07:10 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Okay I got the real info. This week's Top 200 was actually erroneously being ranked by spent bonus pool. It's since been updated as of an hour ago. I'll start a new parse right now. Well, there was no bronze or gold players there, that mainly proves that they first elect the top X MMR (X > 200), and just then sort by something, like points. Cool. Edit2: Scrap edit1. Edit3: I think I am close to confirm that the master "advantage" from a S Diamond point of view is 126!! It might be impossible to prove 126 as the exact number today, but it is indeed somethign between 120-180 Edit4: Though it's obvious that players with more bonus points are higher than they should be by points alone, the correlation is not perfect, and this week fixed top 200 could actually be top 200 MMR (without the inactive players), or it use some internal numbers that could be MMR or not to make the math. That said, I think it's impossible for us to guess the formula this time. I'm pretty sure your thinking here is wrong. Master League isn't part of the same contiguous ladder as Bronze --> Diamond, since points are completely reset when new players enter Master League. Not that there isn't correlation between Diamond points and Master points, but as far as I can see there is no "offset" between S Diamond and Master
The point reset applies to all leagues, not just Master. We have that confirmed, now. There is very likely an offset in terms of the global ladder, just like there probably is for every other league and the tiers within those other leagues. We just probably won't be able to discover what those offsets are until they return to the old Top 200 calculation method, and possibly never for the NA server because Master is too large. Master is very likely part of the contiguous ladder (if we can prove its existence).
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Is it just me or is the search feature on sc2ranks completely broken. I have tried for several days now and it always just says player not found when i use search or profile finder. I obviously spelled the names correctly and i used to do it without any problems. Is the search feature down for you guys?
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whenever you look up someone you need to know the which letters are caps now. i dont think it was like that before
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On January 23 2011 12:06 bonedOUT wrote:
whenever you look up someone you need to know the which letters are caps now. i dont think it was like that before
Yeah you are right Thank you!
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I had like 0 bonus pool when that ranking was made and I was way below the spot they put me at.
I think blizzard just places me highly because they know I am awesome. How nice of them!
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Confirmed no division tiers exist for Master league. This week's list mirrors SC2Ranks perfectly so I won't go through parsing it.
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Top 200 is no fun anymore 
At least for US ^^
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Ok Top 200 LA is up, let's see...
Also by points and lots of diamond players!
http://us.battle.net/sc2/pt/blog/2058998#blog
I'll edit here if I finally find or disprove master offset/advantage.
Edit:
We do have a tie between a diamond and a master!!!
Vicarious E Diamond 2486 points
Boxer Master 2003 points
483 points difference!
S -> Master = 168
Let's see if that's an stable number. If my math is wrong please correct me XD
Edit2: Another tie:
Siloganjeiro -> Master -> 2234 points
IpMan -> E Diamond -> 2699 points
465 points difference!
S-> Master = 150
That means that there isn't a league offset from one another. Our dream is over!!!
Edit3: Another tie:
Elivolts -> Master -> 2464 points
Death -> A Diamond -> 2677 points
213 points difference!
S -> Master = 150
Hm, at least it isn't that unstable!
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