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EliteReplay
Dominican Republic913 Posts
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
On November 17 2010 08:23 Innsmouth-Zerg wrote: I don't get it. "were/are being 'unfair.' It simply had to be that way." & "Some didn't take much and some took everything. Yes it was bad." doesn't make sense, also "not only do companies not need to violate players' rights" is _never_ ever a reason for a company to not do the best thing for itself. A company does not have a caution it only has stock holders. "Without any sort of unity sponsors could abuse this 'desperate' state of teams and give them far less than they are worth, which is not good." Or you could call it "free market" without "fixed deals" where the best sponsor gets the best team "It will also help teams communicate and work together to make their marketing value increase." Which also means that teams not inside this "inner circle of teams" will have a harder time increasing there marketing value. Power can be abused where ever it is and this does not sound like the ultimate revelation which is going to make everything better. You have some valid points, and I agree with you it's not some golden union that's going to magically fix all the 'problems,' but it is a step in the right direction for the balance of the industry. | ||
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TzTz
Germany511 Posts
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Innsmouth-Zerg
Austria137 Posts
On November 17 2010 08:33 Rekrul wrote: You have some valid points, and I agree with you it's not some golden union that's going to magically fix all the 'problems,' but it is a step in the right direction for the balance of the industry. I agree on that one fully with you. | ||
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Spoke
Germany105 Posts
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Chill
Calgary26004 Posts
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Falcor
Canada894 Posts
On November 17 2010 08:28 Char711 wrote: Doesn't this help to prove my point? That was just one part of the North American community and it was ended by a strike! Have you seen that happen to KeSPA? Nope. . it does, never said it was to disprove your post, just adding to your last statement since you didnt know of specific incidents. But in all honesty how the first post described it, it sounded like a player union to me :| | ||
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
On November 17 2010 08:02 Char711 wrote: Edit 2: There is, in addition, your statement that the sponsors did nothing unfair at the time while you explicitly mention them taking the lion's share of earnings. I don't think I really have to get into how that, too, would be deemed "unethical" by pretty much anyone in this day and age (or at least those adhering to "progressive" Western ideals). I'm not taking a stance either way. What happened happened and hopefully won't happen again. I'm merely saying that you can't really lean one way or another when talking about if it originally helped the growth of the industry or not. I mean, if you look at it from the sponsors point of view they invested into the industry and made it so popular and gave these nerdy kids who sat around playing games all a chance to become famous and make lots of money. You can't really say "THATS SO UNFAIR!" for a sponsor to sign a 100,000$/year contract with a player that has clauses that say 50% of prize money go back to the sponsor. Of course from a fanboy perspective one can't help but think "OMG he worked so hard and earned it he should get the $$!!" but that's not how the world works. | ||
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Falcor
Canada894 Posts
On November 17 2010 08:46 Rekrul wrote: You can't really say "THATS SO UNFAIR!" for a sponsor to sign a 100,000$/year contract with a player that has clauses that say 50% of prize money go back to the sponsor. Of course from a fanboy perspective one can't help but think "OMG he worked so hard and earned it he should get the $$!!" but that's not how the world works. that actually sounds reasonable to me :| I would only improve that by saying 50% until the 100,00$ investment has been repayed and then 10% until the end of contract but thats just me  | ||
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lastmotion
368 Posts
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R A V
United States217 Posts
Hopefully like you said in the future we'll have a very fluid esports scene with foreigners going to Korea and vise versa. | ||
boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
On November 17 2010 08:59 lastmotion wrote: it's really sad to imagine a BW player who practices for hours living under horrible living conditions, sweats blood & tears, triumphs against all odds against beastly players, drops out of school for this one dream, just to have your prize money taken away by sponsors. That's seriously messed up. I wonder why Rek is unable to describe details? lolol | ||
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BadWithNames
United States441 Posts
You know because it's Korea I half expect them to move with unheard of speed as one solid body. It'll be ran in a completely fucked up way but it'll run and everyone will play their part, it feels so Korean. The fact they just make a new "Korean Governing Body" under a new name with a new message is straight up American style thinking. Bravo gents Bravo. Enough rambling. | ||
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Mutaahh
Netherlands859 Posts
With a better tournament for worlds best starcraft 2 player (not like WCG which sucks) world e-sports need that to happen, every game would benefit from that | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32282 Posts
On November 17 2010 08:59 lastmotion wrote: it's really sad to imagine a BW player who practices for hours living under horrible living conditions, sweats blood & tears, triumphs against all odds against beastly players, drops out of school for this one dream, just to have your prize money taken away by sponsors. That's seriously messed up. I wonder why Rek is unable to describe details? Rek is the sponsor | ||
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Grettin
42417 Posts
thanks rekrul | ||
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konadora
Singapore66366 Posts
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Shiladie
Canada1631 Posts
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SiCkO_
United States481 Posts
maybe TL, ROOT or EG could work with blizzard on forming a Union in the US and Europe? | ||
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